if the date is irrelevant why did you exclude it!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PinkSilom
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if the date is irrelevant why did you exclude it!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PinkSilom
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There is something you need to know about me. I'm not from Nottingham (nor Pattaya).[/quote
I am fully aware where you live, I used "they" so as to not point blame to any particular person if it were locked or deleted. I realize without thinking I used a bar name but it seemed useless to exclude the bar name since everyone knows what group he is associated with if they have spent any time in pattaya at all, nevertheless, technically you were quite justified to delete the portion where I mistakenly used the group he is associated with. The sentences accosted with the original beginning post makes it clear who is involved and as such what group they are with. Smiles has alluded to your Bostonian heritage often. I am fully aware you are an American and a professional waiter and you remain on dial up although you could afford to get broad band but for the sake of knowing how things down load you forgo your convenience to understand more clearly what the those in Pattaya go through when working with the forum.
Wes at his most lucid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wesley
But forget about reading his works if under any foreign influence, of any kind.
Cheers ... (I think :cyclops: ) ...
'if the date is irrelevant why did you exclude it?'
The poster used the date to highlight how long he had been boycotting the bar. The duration of the boycott did not alter the reason for the instigation of the boycott. Thus, it served no purpose to include the date.
I had forgotten about the episode in the saga of gay pattaya but having again read the various accounts it is evident that one would have a difficult time sorting all this out. Lots of accusations by lots of people. My question is were Mr. L and Mr. M ever investigated by the authorities surrounding the death of the young man who made a will leaving his assets to Mr. M's Thai boyfriend weeks before he died. What was determined to be the cause of the fire? How is it that Mr. L and Mr. M would take part in witnessing such a will? What kind of ethical behavior is this? If none of the rest of the story can be put in perspective this incident alone would lead me to believe that these two are not what they claim to be. Amazing how they had problems back in the UK, were involved in a dubious Will, and involved with serious disputes with business partners. They either had serious misfortune or maybe guilty as some claim. My feeling is that where there is smoke there is fire. These two witness a Will where some naive 28 year old leaves his assets to another guy's Thai boyfriend and then he dies weeks later in a fire confined to one room of the hotel. Oh Please! Can we assume they bought off the boys in brown on this investigation?
Kevin, please do write a book. You can use a nom de plum and even my name if you want. I don't give a rats ass. Maybe this could be touted as a fictional story but of course it isn't fiction, is it?
Out of curiosity is this web site hosted in Thailand? If not what is the problem posting names clearly shown in the local newspapers? Just a question which might help to enlighten us a little as to why the cat and mouse games.
yes Lord it was 11 AM and I had just got up after taking more than my usual allowance of sleeping pills. I slept quite good however it may have actually helped my post, in as much as I didn't have to think in order to post. Hopefully by Monday after one of those dreadful colonoscopies I will no longer need a pill to sleep. As of now I tend to have a hard time getting to sleep. It must be no doubt, reading the forum just before bed. If something like that can happen to Kev, God help those that are planning to move there.Quote:
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Obviously, I like some others have decided where my business will go from now on, even if I have to go to Sunee Plaza to find a boy.
Wesley[/quote]
But it would be a good practice even if the notion is new to some.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wesley
(Comment meant with some humor although there did appear to be some self-immolation there, Wes)
:Self-immolation is suicide by immolation, notably as an extreme form of protest." The more I protest he less good it does, be sure not to let anyone find out anything personal about you. It will certainly come to rest in a post some way or another. So, yes Bob. Guess you are right. I guess we could not be more off topic however well meant all of this is. I do enjoy a good laugh at myself it keeps me human.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob
Yup, that's how I feel. And apparently the Thai courts also, as they seem to have settled it in typical Thai fashion - with no decision on who was right or wrong and everyone being sent home to scowl at each other across the Soi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob T
Everyone that is except for Drummond and the Bangkok Post who were forced to Eat Crow and retract everything.
When I first came to Pattaya in '03 I knew absolutely nothing about all this but was clued in pretty quickly. Several expats made disparaging comments and dropped hints and scurrilous rumors, first about one of the parties then about the other. It became evident that people were taking sides and expected me to - even as I'm only a sometime visitor!
In the West we are very driven by wanting "Justice" above all else. Someone is Right, someone is Wrong. Guilty or Not Guilty, Good or Bad, up or Down, Black or White. We want to know Who Done It and have them get their commuppance.
The Thais seem to be more interested in "Harmony".
I decided long ago to take the "Harmony" route on this controversy.
Harmony sounds good, I guess you will live longer if you don't take anything personal or seek justice, having met Mr L and now having read Mr K's posts now for some time it is obvious who in my opinion cares the most about ones self. Maybe it is a Christian heritage and not Buddhist but, putting the needs of others first is a golden rule I tend not to ignore. Often times the path of least resistance make men and rivers crooked. I submit that Kevin has eat enough Crow to bring harmony. I would think like one poster rather than writing a book I would call every TV and newspaper in the world including the ACLU for a good Human rights lawyer. I in fact I know one who is a lawyer for the UN who is a good Friend of mine and is on the board of Freedom House. He is an international lawyer and I would imagine he could present a good case in a Thai court. Anyone can easily see his Civil rights have been violated in this matter.
Wesley