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Re: Russian Underwear Protest!
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Brad the Impala
1. Assange isn't a politician.
Well, Navalny is also not a politician - he has no own party or movement, nor program for changes. He is just criminal person who trying to revenge for confiscations of his money what he get when stole wood at north of Russia and late in post scam when he was in Moscow. Now is used by both sides: by Kremlin to make leaks and by West to make buzz in western press. Here in Russia as a politician he has zero weight (only 165 persons arrived to protest near court now, half of them were from medias). Nobody cares about him here. Tool for leaks, toy for propaganda.
He had most popularity at 2013 when he was candidate to Moscow mayor. He got 27% with support of right wing nationalists and left ultras. After that yea his popularity faded. Most of drops were in 2016 when he made scandal within opposition in demand to be #1 there. After this action he lost about 60% of his supporters, mostly intelligence.
Last drop in his story was in 2017. When he wanted to protest against something and city offered to him place for protest (up to 50000 persons) in the city center and even constructed scene there for him. It gave him no base for scandal. So at last day before meeting he dropped meeting and announced protest on the main city street where was historical carnival (first Sunday of September is Moscow's birthday). His adepts went to protest and destroyed carnival show. Navalny himself didn't appeared there.
After that story nobody within country count him politician, everyone knows he is just a provocator (we had such person at past about 100 years ago, google Gapon Russia).
Maybe Russia has to declare him "internal terrorist"? What do you think?
2017 smashed carnival:
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Re: Russian Underwear Protest!
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Do you have any independent source that supports your claim that Germany deported Navalny?
I'll take that as a No.
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Brad the Impala
Do you have any independent source that supports your claim that Germany deported Navalny? Or was the claim just a continuation of recycled state propaganda against Navalny?
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Brad the Impala
I'll take that as a No.
You are big boy long time already. Do you still trust in Santa and independent medias?
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Very very few countries are democratic. It takes a lot of energy and will power to be so. It's so much easier the other way..
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Moses
You are big boy long time already. Do you still trust in Santa and independent medias?
I only trust QAnon.
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Moses
You are big boy long time already. Do you still trust in Santa and independent medias?
Sorry if you can't find any independent media that you trust. I think QAnon couldn't find any either.
In the meantime the BBC reports today:
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Russian police have detained close aides of the jailed Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny, whose fans have flooded social media with calls to rally in support of him on Saturday.
Moscow police say any unauthorised demonstrations and provocations will be "immediately suppressed".
More than 55m people have watched his video about President Vladimir Putin's alleged luxury Black Sea palace.
Doesn't read like someone with "zero weight", but I guess that you are the one on the ground.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55765895
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Brad the Impala
Sorry if you can't find any independent media that you trust. I think QAnon couldn't find any either.
In the meantime the BBC reports today:
Doesn't read like someone with "zero weight", but I guess that you are the one on the ground.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55765895
Give me some money and I will make 100-mln-viewers-post with pile of shit as a content.
Watch videos from streets: there are nobody to protest. Once again: in front of court what had intention to arrest Navalny was 165 (precise!) persons, more than half of them were journalists.
Tomorrow maybe will be some protests against quarantines, so Navalny maybe will use them. But I'm sure here as in Netherlands, Belgium, France or Germany police will act quite strong. Tomorrow will be positive temperatures, so them may use water-cannons like in Netherlands at past week.
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Today in Hornet was posts from activist with invitation to protest today against Navalny arrest and against Putin homophobia. In the comments about 95% wrote "no. thank you". Motivation for to decline "With Putin we have homophobia, with Navalny and his right wing activists we will have the same homophobia plus disorders".
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Moses
Today in Hornet was posts from activist with invitation to protest today against Navalny arrest and against Putin homophobia. In the comments about 95% wrote "no. thank you". Motivation for to decline "With Putin we have homophobia, with Navalny and his right wing activists we will have the same homophobia plus disorders".
Yes,95% of members of SGT would feel the same way about Russia I would guess.
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Moses
Sure, correct. He is honey pot with 2 tasks:
- to attract people who are critics of Putin from Khodorkovsky to Navalny
- to make Russian opposition look pathetic and stupid... at past this job had Zhirinovsky with his liberal-democracy party, but now he is 70+ yo and is too old for such job. But Kremlin needs clowns in opposition to make it look stupid.
Your logic falls apart here. If this is true, and he's just a Kremlin project, then why would the Kremlin try to murder him?
That seems a bit counter-productive, don't you think?