Re: Wild Boars on Ellen Show
Even though DDs reply is a little over the top I do get his point...as I do scottys...maybe the answer is somewhere in the middle...truth is there are literally thousands of unskilled jobs available but a small segment of the population veer towards prostitution...there must be a reason besides coercion...
TBH I rarely take the time to think about it, Im just so happy that they exist and are cheap and plentiful...
Re: Wild Boars on Ellen Show
I have never said that coercion is the only reason or even a main reason - only that it is one reason.
Coercion can take many forms, it can be threats, bullying, or even the opposite - it can take the form of promises of rewards.
I'm merely pointing out that there are a number of reasons why people drift into prostitution and very rarely is it (as others have claimed) a career choice, because for the vast majority it's not much of a career. You can only dance in your knickers or be attractive enough for people to pay to fuck you for so long (although Boys Boyz Boyz does its best to disprove that).
Most drift into it because they feel that for whatever reason, they have few choices - and most want out.
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scottish-guy
DD, I think you need to re-visit your rather hysterical response - it bears no relation to what I said. .
Agreed, I was over the top last night, around 2am, typing a reply. I was hysterical.
What if earlier last night I had paid sex with sex worker? What if I had sex with someone, who is in sex trade against his will, coerced? You understand that would make me a part of sex trafficking, yes? In fact, in the West "Johns", the customers are blamed, sex workers are seen as victims.
So maybe you see why my response was hysterical.
If you are correct, and you very well may be, and part of sex trade in SE Asia is coerced, and sex workers in one way or another are unwilling participants, that would make me, their customer, a criminal. Sex offender, in fact. Would you like to carry that label?
Because if you are correct, that is what it makes me. So maybe, before you speculate on a very serious subject, think about it, better make sure you are correct. In your reply ou turned it around, and argued you don't owe me any personal explanation. You are right, you don't owe me anything. I am not the only person here who participates in paid sex, this isn't about me only.
Re: Wild Boars on Ellen Show
"....mowing the lawn."
Now that rings a bell. Isn't that the breeders' rather common euphemism for giving the wife a good shagging?
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DoubleDutch
Agreed, I was over the top last night, around 2am, typing a reply. I was hysterical.
What if earlier last night I had paid sex with sex worker? What if I had sex with someone, who is in sex trade against his will, coerced? You understand that would make me a part of sex trafficking, yes? In fact, in the West "Johns", the customers are blamed, sex workers are seen as victims.
So maybe you see why my response was hysterical.
If you are correct, and you very well may be, and part of sex trade in SE Asia is coerced, and sex workers in one way or another are unwilling participants, that would make me, their customer, a criminal. Sex offender, in fact. Would you like to carry that label?
Because if you are correct, that is what it makes me. So maybe, before you speculate on a very serious subject, think about it, better make sure you are correct. In your reply ou turned it around, and argued you don't owe me any personal explanation. You are right, you don't owe me anything. I am not the only person here who participates in paid sex, this isn't about me only.
The post is mostly about you..and your opinions.
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kittyboy
The post is mostly about you..and your opinions.
By my count DD's use of "I' or "ME" eleven times (granted, none were narsisisticlly in caps nor in bold). Not too bad seeing it was a rather longish post.
KittyBoy will need more evidence than that IMO.
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poshglasgow
"....mowing the lawn."
Now that rings a bell. Isn't that the breeders' rather common euphemism for giving the wife a good shagging?
I thought it was a euphemism for her shaving her fanny. Makes more sense
:D
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DoubleDutch
... I was hysterical...What if I had sex with someone, who is in sex trade against his will, coerced? ... that would make me a part of sex trafficking, yes? ....If you are correct, and you very well may be, and part of sex trade in SE Asia is coerced, and sex workers in one way or another are unwilling participants, that would make me, their customer, a criminal. Sex offender, in fact....
Well I'm glad to see your hysteria has cleared up!
The first thing to say is that especially in the West there is a difference between morality and legality. The difference is that the morality is much worse!
I seriously doubt that by hiring a sex worker you are in any danger of prosecution, provided of course that the sex worker is of legal age in his country and yours. Unless it was very obvious to you (the chained to the radiator scenario you painted) then I can't see how you can be held responsible for how he came to be involved in prostitution.
Of course, back in the West, if it became known that a guy in his 60's say (and I'm not pointing at you DD) was making regular journeys to Thailand to bugger 18yo boys (because that's how they would be portrayed - boys, not young men) , it would not matter a flying fuck that it was legal - good old moralistic judgement would kick in and he's probably going to lose his job and almost all of his friends. It'll be on facebook, twitter, the newspapers maybe - he's going to lose his entire life basically. Even though the likelihood is that no crime has been committed.
I'd suggest that if you're determined to worry about your interactions with sex workers (and I wouldn't) then the latter scenario is the one to really think about. That's why, as someone recently admitted, many guys deny actually visiting Pattaya on holiday and substitute some other, less notorious, destination
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Hmmm . . . "narsisisticlly"? That's bad.
Can anyone do better? Except of course Francois, who is actually from Brittany and thus knows neither French nor English.
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Scottish Guy wrote.
"Of course, back in the West, if it became known that a guy in his 60's say (and I'm not pointing at you DD) was making regular journeys to Thailand to bugger 18yo boys (because that's how they would be portrayed - boys, not young men) , it would not matter a flying fuck that it was legal - good old moralistic judgement would kick in and he's probably going to lose his job and almost all of his friends. It'll be on facebook, twitter, the newspapers maybe - he's going to lose his entire life basically."
But going to Vietnam to do exactly that is OK? Just not Thailand. Got it.