Re: Male prostitues in Thailand
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Originally Posted by Dodger
when a farang tells #26 that he loves him and then flags #12 off the stage the very next night, we are perceived as being just exactly what we are...liars and deceivers.
I'm assuming you meant we in terms of how the boys view farang "in general" and not specifically to this board and all of it's members as I know speaking personally I am ( sometimes brutally) honest when with guys and go out of my way not to lie to them about my feelings for them ( or lack of if i'm in full butterfly mode - which is 100% of the time now) and I'm guessing most of us are the same too as to do otherwise just brings added crap to your own door at a later stage and being Thailand your indiscretions should you make any would be found out within an hour of you making them anyway - if not before.
Re: Male prostitues in Thailand
NIrish, sadly I think way too many farangs do lie to Thai guys, lie to friends, lie to the world (via postings here for example) and then of course lie to themselves.
Even when one is being utterly sincere to a Thai guy they often just think you are a player; as the vast majority of farangs seem to be and they base their reactions on previous experiences. I, like you, tend to the straightforward and simple. I am well past the deviousness and outright lies, which I accept had happened too often in the past. It is nice to live and learn.
Re: Male prostitues in Thailand
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Originally Posted by SimpleSoul
Even when one is being utterly sincere to a Thai guy they often just think you are a player.
You're right about that and many times even when I'm being 100% honest with a Thai guy they sometimes STILL manage to come out with the "oh you lie me" line and when I get annoyed about that and point out that I'm not there's usually the stupidest most mundane reason behind it, where 3 days ago when I met them in a bar and they said " oh do you like me" and I might say "yes you're lovely" ( or whatever) to be nice and to start our time off together on a positive note then 3 days later ( and even though we've been separated and they've been off with other customers and me other boys) they'll turn round on me saying I'm heading off out ( with someone else ) later that night and throw up the "Ah but you said you like me - see, you LIE to me" - and all of my trying to point out that my one simple statement, three days ago, which was genuinely meant at that MOMENT in time was true THEN - and still true perhaps now but that has no bearing on where I'm going tonight is a total waste of time.
However I think some of the boys have also learnt to use that fear of us being branded as liars in their eyes to their advantage and are way to quick to throw that line into a conversation to back up just whatever argument they are trying to win at that particular moment and that I have no time for and simply tell them "ok, up to you, think what you want" - which I guess leaves them STILL walking out and telling their next farang " oh last farang I with he very bad, he lie to me too much!" - a real no win situation !
But as far as I'm concerned as long as "I" know I've been as truthful as I can be with them and explained that to the best of my ability after that there's only so much I can or am prepared to do to placate their inbuilt ( and very useful when trying to gain sympathy from you) dose of "you lie to me" paranoia. And I dont care what the boys say but as far as I'm concerned when it comes to telling outright blatant lies they normally win HANDS DOWN over all the farangs they meet put together so my sympathy for them and their plight of being lied to all the time ( as they see it) is somewhat limited I'm afraid, as lets face as most interactions with bar boys are all just one big game / lie from the start anyway and they can play the game better than most faring hands down they've little to complain about really.
Re: Male prostitues in Thailand
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Originally Posted by Zebedee
....I think the guy in your avatar is nice looking, and he has a kind face......the kind you would stick your cock in! :sign5:
Well, I've always liked nice things :love4:
Re: Male prostitues in Thailand
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Nirishguy wrote:
You're right about that and many times even when I'm being 100% honest with a Thai guy they sometimes STILL manage to come out with the "oh you lie me" line...
I'm not doubting you, but I had to scratch my head for a minute, because in all the years I spent as a Butterfly I can't remember ever having a boy come out with a "oh you lie to me" line. If a person is a committed Butterfly and honest about this when he's interacting with a boy there's simply no basis for any accusations like this from either party. It's usually when the "Committed Butterfly" has a few too many drinks and decides to unleash his hidden romantic self where the "oh you lie to me" lines start filling the air.
The times when I was called a liar (and there are more than I care to remember) always occurred during a long-term relationship. Like the time I attempted to sneak in the door at 6:00 AM after falling asleep next to some boy in a short time room and told my bf I was just playing cards with some farang friends. His immediate response:..."you are a liar" My response:..."yes, but I can't think of anything else to say". His response:..."good, you can sleep on the sofa". My response:...OK. What really pissed me off is that I almost made it in the door without waking him up when this rooster who sounded like he had a Bose speaker inserted in his vocal cords started blasting this non-stop cock-a-doodle-doing. I could have strangled that fucking thing.
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Dodger, you're a hoot - thanks for the laugh.
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Ha dodger - maybe you're just lucky your BF was as tolerant and non violent as he appeared otherwise it might just have been YOU waking up with no cock a doddle do some morning after one of your nights out on the town with the boys !! Lol
Re: Male prostitues in Thailand
Yes...the thought entered my mind numerous times, thus the reason I would sleep with my guitar on my lap as if it would somehow reflect the blow.
Re: Male prostitues in Thailand Aug 2013
ChristianPFC likes Dodger's post.
The op title "Male prostitues in Thailand Aug 2013" is misleading, the op wants to know what working boys do after their "use by" date, and that was addressed recently in a topic "Jobs for the boys" (or similar title).
Re: Male prostitues in Thailand Aug 2013
I'm almost certain that the mama sans at Dream Boy were once gogo boys. I've always assumed that boys who made the grade found some foolish "protector" who financed their farm or some other retirement fund and those who didn't make the grade graduated to mamasan and then pimped their stable of boys within the bar getting kickbacks from each boy along the way.