And Putin ousts 150 FSB agents.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...aine-lf9k6tn6g
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And Putin ousts 150 FSB agents.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...aine-lf9k6tn6g
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...IZw?li=BBnb7Kz
Russian warship’s sinking raises tense questions about fate of crew
The sinking of the Russian warship Moskva is causing tension back home, where some families are asking questions about the fate of the crew and a prominent state TV anchor is demanding answers about how the debacle happened.
The flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet sank last week after being hit by two Ukrainian missiles, delivering a significant blow to Russia’s naval capacity, U.S. and Ukrainian officials said.
Russia confirmed that the ship sank but said only that it had been damaged by “heavy storms” and a fire that caused ammunition on board to detonate. On April 14, Russia’s defense ministry said all crew members had been evacuated from the ship. The authorities have not confirmed any dead or wounded.
U.S. confirms Ukraine missiles sank warship, as Russia steps up attacks
But one sailor’s mother said her surviving son told her that about 40 people died and many were wounded and missing in the sinking. The newspaper Novaya Gazeta Europe published the unnamed woman’s remarks on Sunday, saying it had reviewed documents proving that the son served in the navy, though not specific proof that he had been aboard the Moskva when it sank.
“There are dead, there are wounded, there are missing. My son called me when they were given phones. They left their documents and [their personal] phones on the [ship]. He calls me and cries from what he saw. It was scary. It is clear that not everyone survived,” said the mother, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear for her safety.
Questions from other people claiming to be relatives of Moskva crew members also appeared on social media and were picked up in the Russian media. The Washington Post was not able to reach the account holders to verify the information.
On Sunday, a user of the social-media platform VKontakte said the ship’s commanders told him that his son Yegor, a conscript, was among those missing in the tragedy.
Russia earlier “said that the entire crew had been evacuated. It’s a lie! A blatant and cynical lie!” Dmitry Shkrebets wrote.
“After my attempts to clarify the details of the incident, the cruiser commander and his deputy stopped communicating with me,” Shkrebets wrote. “I ask everyone who is not afraid and not indifferent, spread this appeal of mine wherever you have the opportunity” so the tragedy is not hushed-up.
In a later post, Shkrebets said three families from different parts of Russia contacted him to say their children were also missing from the sunken ship.
On Russian state-controlled TV, meanwhile, one widely followed anchor said he was “furious” over the sinking, voicing a rare note of displeasure with the authorities.
“Just explain to me how you managed to lose it! Tell me why the hell you were in that part of the Black Sea at that time,” Vladimir Solovyov asked during his prime-time show over the weekend. “Why did your fire-extinguishing system not work and the ship burned practically from the inside out?”
Why dos the Russian government LIE about EVERYTHING??
Surprise :)))
Because it is government. Do you know govt what doesn't lie? Well, if you want to say "yes" reread and verify promises printed by candidates just before last elections in your country. Every professional politic is professional lier.
SO you really don't believe in Nazis in the Ukraine?
Besides the Russian Nazis...
Anyone with an ounce of compassion would be praying that this doesn't happen.
It's now 3:52 PM Tuesday April19 and the only thing that's "flat like a dessert" is the surface of the water in the Black Sea where the Moskova once sat. According to Russian news all sailors aboard the Moskova have survived.
The ultimatum you refer to that was given by the Russian Defense Ministry to the last remaining Ukrainian troops still fighting in the port city has come and gone. The battle continues. The fate of Mariupol is still hanging on by an unknown number of defenders making their last stand at the iron and steel plant. They refuse to leave the plant without weapons fearing that the Russian soldiers would kill them.
Zelinskyy has apparently classified the bombing of the ondergrond plant as a "red line", where further discussions (negotiations) with Russia would come to a halt if Putin's forces were to massacre the people in the plant. This may the reason why Putin is taking a time out, but all things considered, I don't give the Ukrainians in the plant too much hope.
The war criminal Putin cannot even bring himself to treat his own sailors and troops with even a modicum of respect. To make the loss of their lives even more painful for their families by lying and covering up the truth is disrespectful. The arrogant narcissistic cretin that is Putin does not deserve any support from the Russian people.
Yeah, apparently Ukraine has 7000 bodies of Russian soldiers sitting in morgues and refridgerated trucks. They're trying to give them back to Rssia, but Russia doesn't want them.
Too many body bags showing up at home is one of the main reasons Gorbachev was kicked out of power, so I guess lesson learned, and Putin doesn't want any body bags showing up in Russia.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...Y3C?li=BBnb7Kz
Despite Putin's claims that the West's 'economic blitzkrieg strategy didn't work,' Moscow's mayor says the city is about to lose 200,000 jobs
Putin has a plan to kill off 200,000 Russian soldiers to balance this?
Ok, couple things here. By "nationalistic coup" you mean the Ukrainian people got pissed off when their government tried to scrap a massive trade deal with EU to do a trade deal with Russia instead. The people simply wanted what they knew was best for their country, and if you want to call that "nationalism", then ok...
Second, don't even try to justify the untold amount of destruction, death and carnage Russia has inflicted upon Ukraine which will now last generations as fair play in order to get rid of a few Nazis. The US and Canada has Nazis too. Hell, there's even some Nazis in the US Congress in Washington. Does that mean Russia should come invade North America and totally level our cities to the ground too? Get fucked.
If you believe the Nazi line, you're an idiot. This is Putin with delusions of grandeur, and wants to leave this world being known as a great Tussian leader. That's it.
And your dear leader is quite obviously beyond delusional. I think we all know his aspirations went beyond just Ukraine. He couldn't even take Kiev and he actually thought he was going to invade Poland? WTF?
At the moment, I still don't even know what he's thinking. He wants eastern Ukraine because of the huge amount of industry there, and that massive natural gas reserve that was found in 2010. Cool, got it. He also wants Odessa to control the ports and turn Ukraine into a land locked country, and after a few years of suffering as a land locked country I'm sure he'll try for Kiev again.
That's simply not going to work though. First off, especially considering the flagship of the Black Sea fleet is now on the bottom of the ocean, it's very much up for debate even if Russia could take Odessa anymore. Even if Russia managed to level Odessa to the ground ala Mariupol, it would never last. Ukraine simply cant not, and will never allow their country to become a land locked nation and allow for the loss of its industrial base and that massive natural gas reserve.
Is Putin thinking he'll just inflict all this damanage, take the land he wants then be able to say, "ok, all good now, war is over". That's simply not going to happen. Maybe at that point Putin will decide peace is a good idea, but I promise the Ukrainian people are going to tell him to get fucked and will continue fighting.
By the way: yesterday amount of sales of euro at MOEX been higher than USD first time ever. That is sign what countries from EU buy rubles for to pay for Russian commodities - gas, fertilizers and so on.
True Nazis gassed thousands and thousands of Jews, in concentration camps in Germany, not elected them as president.
How can anyone be shit-for-brains enough to believe this about Ukraine?
I thought it was Russia. that was kicked out of the human rights council and trying their incompetent blitzkreig.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...7vA?li=BBnb7Kz
Ukraine: Greece's military has seized Russian oil tanker
We can't lie to ourselves, and this only works if we know the truth too. Yes, there are Nazis in Ukraine and they were an issue to the point the US state department labeled one of the groups as a terrorist group (I think). For example, here's one of many documentaries:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy910FG46C4
Quite obviously though, by no means is that justification for what Putin did and is doing. I think we all also know this isn't the reason for the invasion. Getting rid of Nazis just happens to be a convienient excuse to invade a sovereign nation, and expand the Russian territory.
And the inevitable siege within the east has reportedly started. This sucks, stay tuned...
https://www.zupimages.net/up/22/16/orzw.jpg
Business Insider
Sanctioned Russian tycoon publicly rips Putin's 'crazy war' in Ukraine and calls those who support the invasion 'morons'
A sanctioned Russian millionaire ripped Putin's "crazy war" in Ukraine on Tuesday.
Oleg Tinkov called Russians who support the war with the "Z" symbol "morons" in an Instagram post that also criticized the military.
Tinkov, the founder of Tinkoff Bank, was personally sanctioned by the UK on March 24.
Sanctioned Russian millionaire Oleg Tinkov ripped Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, a rare public criticism by a Russian elite.
"I don't see ANY beneficiary of this crazy war! Innocent people and soldiers are dying," Tinkov in an Instagram post shared Tuesday,
He said that Russian generals are realizing they have a "shitty army."
"And how will the army be good, if everything else in the country is shit and mired in [nepotism] and servility?" he said.
Tinkov also said those who support Putin's invasion of Ukraine by sharing the "Z" symbol that was emblazoned on invading Russian tanks are "morons."
"90% of Russians are AGAINST this war!" Tinkov said.
He then called on the "collective West" to "please give Mr.Putin a clear exit to save his face and stop this massacre."
Where the fuck is NATO? Especially after the horrid war crimes in Bucha and all around were discovered, what the fuck are they doing?
We all know full well what's happening in eastern Ukraine right now. We don't even have to imagine it, because we've already seen it. How can NATO possibly sit there and say, "well geez, wish we could help, but our hands are tied"?
News on the fate of the Moskov is still hush, hush...but it looks like some of the parents of the sailors who were on board aren't happy.
Russian news is apparently still saying that all the sailors survived, although some of the parents are being told their sons are "missing in action". Go figure!
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world...tary-conflict/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FmtoexSdl8\\
Do you think Ukraine is full of nazis?
ANd now pustin decided to fire off a test ICBM... just close to the border of Finland, because of course.
Then the Russian defense ministry shows up saying "nothing to see here, just a standard and routine test". Right afterwards, Pustin shows up saying the West better not meddle in Russian affairs, and blah, blah...
I know he just recently got rid of another 150 FSB agents, so he's obviously worried about a coup. Let's hope those worries become true, because this is getting way out of hand. This guy is quite obviously delusional, and needs to be removed from power.
Is that been told to you by medias? Plesetck - Russian military space port existed from 1957. Every year there are up to 20 launches. Is it news for you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plesetsk_Cosmodrome
Yes, as I said, as the Russian defense ministry already said just a standard and routine test on the border of Finland. The fact it's happening just as Finland is about to join NATO just happens to be a coincidence.
Same as Putin showing up on TV just after the test basically threatening the West. Just a coincidence.
Finland?
At first: Sarmat has been tested in 2017 few times already in Plesetck, isn't it too late to cry about Plesetck and Finland in 2022?
At second: Matt, what is your math grade? It is not possible to target Finland from Plesetck - Finland is too close to space port for to use ballistic missile.
But Plesetck is most closest launch port to Canada. "Sarmat" has unbelievable speed 15M (25,560 km/h (15,880 mph); 7.1 km/s (4.4 mi/s)) and will reach Toronto in 23-25 minutes over North Pole. But preferable direction is over South Pole because US and Canada haven't anti-rocket defense from South direction, and in any case there are no any anti-missiles what are able to stop "Sarmat" because of high speed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-28_Sarmat
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...... But preferable direction is over South Pole because US and Canada haven't anti-rocket defense from South direction, and in any case there are no any anti-missiles what are able to stop "Sarmat" because of high speed./QUOTE]
The fact that you presume to know what the US and Canadian defense systems are capable of is a bit rich.
The U.S. doesn't flaunt their defense systems, as information (and data) related to advanced defense systems, especially those which rely on newer technologies are classified as "Top Secret" for good reasons.
And unless you worked in a high level capacity for a U.S. Defense Agency you would not be privy to this information.
It was reported after Trump left office that he wasn't even aware of some of the more advanced military technologies and systems because he couldn't be trusted to keep his mouth shut.
Some countries (like Russia and N. Korea) enjoy having parades to showcase their military strength. The U.S. prefers letting boy scouts and circus clowns entertain the masses.
All US tests are clearly visible. In satellite century you can't hide any "top secrets" tests. Technology - yes, is possible to hide, but characteristics. Because you need tests in nature and all tests are visible and may be measured. Moreover: each country warns about tests all other countries in advance: for to avoid "misunderstanding".