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Originally Posted by Narakmak
I said absolutely nothing of the sort!!
I suggest you look at other posters contributions, twas not me!
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Really,Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
I said absolutely nothing of the sort!!
I suggest you look at other posters contributions, twas not me!
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Originally Posted by Roger
Right,
Found the quote! ................................I can't see my name anywhere??? :dontknow: :dontknow:
You know Narakmak, you have been so anal on this entire thread. You have consistantly been over assertive about Sams, about Mexican food here in Pattaya to the point that it clearly shows a vendetta. You have even gone so far as to recomend Mexican restaurants that you HAVE NEVER EVEN BEEN TO. Are you Mexican? Do you have a degree in culinary arts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
And then to go and accuse people of saying things that they clearly did not say....... you owe KQUILL a sincere apology!
It was ROGER who made that statement and NOT Kquill! You are so adament about putting people down about this that you do not even look at who you are to blame, what you are saying....nothing. Just kill anyone that has a different opinion.
LOOK AT THE QUOTE AND READ WHO IT IS FROM! :
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Originally Posted by Roger
Sorry I attributed that quote to the wrong person.
All this hysterical reaction to my passion about Mexican food is not going to change the reality of the Mexican food situation in Pattaya one iota. It sucked yesterday, it sucks today, and it will suck tomorrow if people continue to give money for totally crap Mexican food. Yes I mean everywhere in Pattaya, not only Sams, and yes I've tried them all.
BTW, what kind of wanker would think this?
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quote:/ I think Mexican food and drink, by and large is fairly lousy cuisine, WHEREVER YOU EAT IT
You have a hysterical passion - yes that is probably the correct description.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Other people disagreed with your stated tastes in food and you started insulting them.
I will ask again. Do you understand the difference between your subjective opinion and objective fact? There is a difference and insulting people because the do not share your hysterical passion about mex food is the behavior of a serious gaping hole assshole.
And yes I am aware that you said hysterical reaction to your passion and I have said hysterical passion...that seems the case.
Tee Hee http://www.council-of-elrond.com/for.../girl_haha.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
and Sorry to Kevin for letting you take the temper tantrum from Narakmak ... but it did show him up in his true colours :sign5:
I would like to point out that I am, in fact, a food expert. I have been eating food for over 50 years and I know what I like and I'm an expert on what I like.
kquill is also an expert on what he likes at the table.
justme is obviously an expert at what food he likes and one look at him will confirm that he has had his snout in the trough for most of his life; scoffing what he likes.
All of us have differing opinions on foods that we like and loathe. Restaurants know this and take it into account when they ask things like 'How would you like your steak cooked?'
It is therefore utterly stupid of someone to nail their colours to the mast an insist that food that one person likes is "crap" and that their taste is better than yours.
I maintain that I dislike Mexican food and my considerable experience of it tells me that. If Miss Blood Pressure (Narakmak) likes the stuff - good for him ... enjoy!
He can purchase Immodium at all GOOD pharmacies.
You have referred to mission district burritos on san francisco. I lived in SF in glenn park. Yea. mission district burritos can be nice after a night of drinking, but some of them are shit made by un-hygenic restaurants that have to shut down when they fail the health inspection...oh yea great food. Other than the odd burrito consumed when intoxicated Mex food is crap food. A big steaming pile of brown going in and a big steaming pile of brown going out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
I used to run across foodies in san fran. They would gas on endlessly about their favorite foods or the little restaurant the found with the perfect blend of...blah blah blah...fuck you could not shut them up..as if food were the most important thing in life and anyone who was not totally committed to chasing the food EXPERIENCE was a total idiot.
A person who talks endlessly about only the subject they are interested in talking about and thinks that anyone who either is uninterested in their pet topic or who disagrees with them is a total fucking selfish prick.
Does this description fit?
Narakmak: WhatтАЩs your favourite colour?
Someone Else: Green
Narakmak: Nooooo!!! Green is a crappy colour. Blue is the best colour.
Someone Else: Well I like Green
Narakmak: Stupid!!! Retard!!! Even Red is better than Green
Someone Else: I like some shades of Blue and Red can be OK but Green is best for me
Narakmak: You must be some sort of Commie Pervert. Blue is Best, Blue is Best.
Someone Else: Green тАж Bye Bye
Narakmak: Why donтАЩt I have any friends?
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Glad to have provided you some free entertainment in your clearly empty, good Mexican food free, lives. However, to repeat again, we STILL don't have even one decent Mexican restaurant in Pattaya, and that ... IS A FACT.
Let me again inform you that you are laboring under the self delusion that your opinion is a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
No it is not. It is your opinion. And valid for you but not valid for people who disagree with you.
Are you one of those foodie types I used to run into in San Fran?
If so I have to say you and your types are fucking bores to talk to.
No, it's an objective fact. Stop trying to convince me otherwise.
No not an objective fact. Your subjective opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Stop being so obtuse and come to the realization that your opinion is an opinion.
No an objective fact.
Nope. There are objective facts you can use to rate Mexican restaurants. Such as the quality of their salsas. Whether they made homemade tortillas. Whether the flavor provides a Mexican flavor profile. The spicing of the meats. Any person with even basic knowledge of Mexican food would easily know there is not one decent Mexican restaurant in Pattaya. Again, that's a fact. Sorry your solipsistic world view can't handle that.
No wrong again. Your opinions are your opinions. You have not mapped out, listed, the objective measures you used to arrive at your opinion regarding the restaurant in question. You are stating an opinion with no backing from what I can tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Have you been to every single mexican restaurant in pattaya? If you think you have then is it possible you have missed even one hole in the wall mexican joint? If so then you can not make the claim about there being no good mexican restaurants in pattaya because you have not sampled them.
You are wrong. Sorry you can not handle having it pointed out that your opinion is just an opinion.
Do you still believe that anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant and an idiot?
1. I asked what makes him the ONLY expert in Mexican foor=d and if he were Mexican? No answer.
2. Now he is so anal that a thread called STROGONOFF and talks about a real nice sounding restaurant, he is so stupid to go over to that thread and make a stupid joke asking if they sold "Mission District Burriitos".
What a jerk!
Roger/Cedric, while my size is my testimonial to what foods I enjoy, your comments are a testimonial that you are ignorant baffoon. You are only annoyed because I know you are Cedric, who was so hysterical and foul mouthed that you already have been thrown off this board at least once.
Cedric/Roger first names of makes as well as when Cedric was thrown off, Roger applied for membership the same day.
Both writings similar, same insults etc.
I may be a jerk but that doesn't change the fact that there is no decent Mexican food in Pattaya.
You may be a jerk but that does not change your opinion that there is no decent mexican food in pattaya.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Have you tried them all? Is it even possible that one small place exists that you don't know about and have not eaten there?
Of course that is the case. So that answer on so many different levels is that you are wrong.
You have your opinion about your tastes and you are wrong that other people should act and feel according to your wishes.
You have not sampled the entire universe of mexican restaurants in pattaya. So you HAVE to be wrong.
We're all gay here. What's your problem exactly with ... assholes?
I assume since you did not respond to my statement above that you understand why you are wrong about your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Read my signature - They are like opinions. Everyone has one and they all stink (the statement is of course adjusted to accommodate those with colostomy bags).
I have a problem with people who push their opinions on others and insist that others can not have valid views.
I am fine if you want to tell me, "I have very specific tastes about food. Especially mexican food and my experience is that none of the restaurants I have been to here in Pattaya meet MY expectations."
I would say "Sorry to hear it, it sounds like you are a guy who enjoys food. I hope you find you mex mecca on your food hadj's around pattaya". However, you started insulting people because they have different tastes. In my opinion that shows a lack of respect for other people.
In my opinion that makes you a fucking gaping asshole. Join the club life is full of them.
This is silly.
I am an expert on Mexican food. I know what good Mexican food is and I know when it doesn't measure up.
Supposing there was a contest of young violists being judged for who would win entry into an elite school.
Who would you trust to judge them? Just any Joe Blow on the street who could only say "I don't understand anything about music but I know what I like" or professional musicians/music teachers?
Do you seriously think the opinions of these casual listeners has anything to do with an OBJECTIVE evaluation of the potential TALENT of those young musicians?
If yes, you're an idiot with a mind so open it's like a volcano crater.
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Originally Posted by Happy_Place_Bar
Why is that. What do you call a flesh peddler?Quote:
Originally Posted by justme
A purveyor of horizontal refreshment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
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this is so funny! So, what exactly are your qualifications to be an 'expert' ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
He made love to a chihuahua?Quote:
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Yes you are being silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
World class, prize winning palate eh?
Did you win the first place grand champion judges award at the frijoles cooking and judging contest at your culinary school?
Let me see your reference is who would I trust to judge young violinists? Would those be the grade school violinists at your nieces concert recitals.
Ah..just about fucking anyone...it is just a fucking grade school concert recital...just as it is just a fucking mexican restaurant....Not very important in the grand scheme of things.
Sorry - gaping...just gaping.
Mexican food is important to me. I never said its important to everyone. Anyone who thinks Sams is decent Mexican food shares your indifference. I'll ignore your lame comment about my music example; it was clear to non-abusive readers.
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Hey I have an idea! If you are such an expert on Mexican food, and Pattaya has none, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and open Pattayas finest Mexican food joint up? Now if you don't have enough money, why dont you get someone to open one up and make you the master chef as you know all about it and can make one hell of a place?
Oh and by the way, I am an expert on MEAT. Dont knock my profession! and I HAVE put my money where my mouth is and aint doing so bad! See I was a purveyor and purchaser for 49 - 50 years before I showed people HOW to do it.
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I am posting this here and under Mexican as I am being attacked uhder both.
1. Now you dont like this place either....I am starting to see a pattern here.
2. you have respect for prostitutes but not the person who owns a bar, serves customers drinks and allows the boys to work from it in a nice clean honest enviornment.....real smart.
I have repeatedly asked for your QUALIFICATIONS which makes you an EXPERT on Mexican food, and you repeatedly dodge giving answers, thus I expect that your expertise lies in the same way as mine does.
I have been picking up and lying down with prostitutes and young guys since I was .... well going to bed with boys since I was 10 and picking up males prostitutes since I was 17. I am an EXPERT in the field of gratification and while I dont have a degree.......
I am an expert.
I have been frequenting Pattaya bars for the last 10 years and while I am NO EXPERT at having one of these bars, I do enjoy what I like and I feel that having an establishment that is hassle free, nice and courteous and having many young men that work there..... well....I am not an expert but I am well schooled.
Are you only well schooled in the field of Mexican and now Stroganoff foods or do you hold some culinary degree??
I didn't say I was a restauranteur. It would be cheaper to fly back to the USA occasionally to get my Mexican fix. No, the Bangkok places don't fully do it for me either, but at least some are approaching passable.
Published food critic in two major US food cities before I retired.
As far as Stroganoff, I am talking about recent experiences. I used to like it. I like a lot of restaurants in Pattaya, but in general it is no surprise that Pattaya is no San Franscisco, food-wis.e
And that makes you an EXPERT? A food critic? Well I guess if you can't do, then critique! Jeese! What a larf!Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
My work is published regularly, but I never call myself an expert .. although other people do and I cringe and gently correct them!
"Published food critic in two major US food cities before I retired."
I think the basic problem here is that ultimately no one gives a flying fuck about Mexican food or your unrelenting criticing of same perhaps and you seem unable to grasp that fact ???
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
AS I SAID YOU REALLY ARE A PIECE OR WORK, YOU CAN'T EVEN ADMIT YOUR MISTAKE WITHOUT A SILLY ADDITION AT THE END. .........KNOBHEAD IS THE BEST DESCRIPTION I CAN THINK OF! I'VE USED ALL THE OTHERS!
Then what are you? In any case, you clearly have rage issues. Not surprised given your background.
In any case, yes I know I'm going to have to live with the FACT of the lack of even one decent Mexican restaurant in Pattaya. Those are the breaks.
If you want to mock my claims that I'm an expert on Mexican food, makes no difference to me. I know I am and I know anyone with basic understanding/respect of Mexican food (including Mexican American food) could not stomach the food at Sams or any other place in Pattaya. I am sure it will fill your stomach though. Enjoy!
One funny thing about this is that with this discussion I am sure I have driven lots of victims customers to Sams to protest my voicing of the facts. Hilarious!
And here I was thinking that being 'solipsistic' only applied to Hedda (though he's still the touchstone of solipsism ... if not now alone).
Given this thread, could one now say ~ for instance ~ and without being too pretentious: "... that excellent Mexican meal had all the right nuances of solipsistic-ness ... "?
If I could only be a fly on jinks wall. He's gotta be shaking his head with disbelief! :sign5:
I am thinking about starting a thread about Russian Restaurants, then we could have all the old threads repeated and repeated, repeated and repeated, repeated and repeated, repeated and repeated, repeated and repeated, repeated and repeated, repeated and repeated.
Maybe Bulgarian, Slovak, Arab, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Loa, Cambodian or English restaurants.
All to be in Thailand so that the thread can remain in context.
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All of us have differing opinions on doctors that we like and loathe. Doctors know this and take it into account when they ask things like 'How would you like your diagnosis and your treatment?' It is therefore utterly stupid of someone to nail their colours to the mast and insist that a doctor that one person likes is "crap".
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