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dinagam
He reminds me of Juan Guaido of Venezuela.
Guiado is also twice criminal?
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Indeed he's more than twice the criminal for what he has been doing to the proud country of Venezuela.
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dinagam
Indeed he's more than twice the criminal for what he has been doing to the proud country of Venezuela.
Single-handed?
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From what media here is reporting, protests are looking to be gettins serious.
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cdnmatt
From what media here is reporting, protests are looking to be gettins serious.
Seems no: at Jan 31 was already less people than at Jan 23. And by any means level of tensions is far less than at times of BLM actions at past summer.
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dinagam
Indeed he's more than twice the criminal for what he has been doing to the proud country of Venezuela.
I doubt what stealing wood or fraud of perfume company are actions for country.
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Moses
Seems no: at Jan 31 was already less people than at Jan 23. And by any means level of tensions is far less than at times of BLM actions at past summer.
You’re suggesting that Russia and the USA are so similar in every way that there’s some sort of equivalence between wholly white protesters in Russia and BLM protesters in the USA?
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StevieWonders
You’re suggesting that Russia and the USA are so similar in every way that there’s some sort of equivalence between wholly white protesters in Russia and BLM protesters in the USA?
Do you see any word "white" in my post? I wrote about level of tensions.
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Moses
Do you see any word "white" in my post? I wrote about level of tensions.
You’re suggesting that Russia and the USA are so similar in every way that there’s some sort of equivalence between protesters in Russia and protesters in the USA?
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StevieWonders
You’re suggesting that Russia and the USA are so similar in every way that there’s some sort of equivalence between protesters in Russia and protesters in the USA?
I suggest what protests are normal for any country. And another idea: at time of COVID people in world are tending to protest because normal life is ruined by virus everywhere.
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Moses
I suggest what protests are normal for any country. And another idea: at time of COVID people in world are tending to protest because normal life is ruined by virus everywhere.
I’d have thought the Belarusian protests were more equivalent to the Russian protests - they are both about politics and their political systems are much more similar than a comparison to racial protests in the USA.
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StevieWonders
I’d have thought the Belarusian protests were more equivalent to the Russian protests - they are both about politics and their political systems are much more similar than a comparison to racial protests in the USA.
BLM isn't racial. WIKI:
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Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement protesting against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against black people.
By the way: nobody protests here "against political system". But some dreams to change president.
Here are about 40 political parties and is much more diversity of political views than in bipolar US. Lukashenko from Belarus got power at time of USSR fall. Putin was elected. The only thing what you may to compare is time of ruling: Lukashenko 26, Lee Hsien Loong 16, Putin 16 (21 with time of PM), Merkel 15, Netanyahu 15.
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Moses
BLM isn't racial. WIKI:
By the way: nobody protests here "against political system". But some dreams to change president.
Here are about 40 political parties and is much more diversity of political views than in bipolar US. Lukashenko from Belarus got power at time of USSR fall. Putin was elected. The only thing what you may to compare is time of ruling: Lukashenko 26, Lee Hsien Loong 16, Putin 16 (21 with time of PM), Merkel 15, Netanyahu 15.
I do love a man with a sense of humour. However I take at face value your assurance that there is no equivalence between the political and social systems of Russia and the USA, with which I agree wholeheartedly.
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Check the news you two. New developments.
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StevieWonders
However I take at face value your assurance that there is no equivalence between the political and social systems of Russia and the USA, with which I agree wholeheartedly.
Sure, here nobody calls protesters "internal terrorists".
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Moses
Sure, here nobody calls protesters "internal terrorists".
Indeed and I shall remind you of it often.
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heh, they threw him back in prison for 2.5 years for breaking probation of all things. His defense was that he was in a coma in Germany after a military grade merder attempt, but the court wasn't having it, so back to prison for 2.5 years he goes. Sure enough, new protests country wide now breaking out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2af0b4mbZPo
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cdnmatt
heh, they threw him back in prison for 2.5 years for breaking probation of all things. His defense was that he was in a coma in Germany after a military grade merder attempt, but the court wasn't having it, so back to prison for 2.5 years he goes. Sure enough, new protests country wide now breaking out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2af0b4mbZPo
Navalny was discharged from hospital at October 12. So it should be expected what they will close him behand the bars and I wrote about it month ago. Why he should be exclusion from the law?
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-r...-idUSKBN2A429G
Putin's approval rating dropped 1% - from 65% to 64% after "Navalny's story"
Trusting to Navalny raised and now is 5% of Russian population.
Do you need other numbers?
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Moses
FFS Moses, can’t your guy do a 69?
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From The Times, Thursday:
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For those with an interest in the Navalny phenomenon I recommend this podcast. In summary:
Short-term Navalny’s fucked
Longer term Putin’s fucked
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR...EegQIBxAF&ep=6
I’m reminded of Zhou Enlai’s answer when asked about the effects of the French Revolution
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China, like Russia has a habit of cannibalizing it's former leaders. Zhou had lost almost all power and Mao was about to get done so he started the cultural revolution.
Communism. For the people.
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arsenal
China, like Russia has a habit of cannibalizing it's former leaders.
Yeltsin did a deal with Putin not to be prosecuted in retirement in return for a peaceful transfer of power. I wonder who will do the same for Putin when his time comes.
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arsenal
like Russia has a habit of cannibalizing it's former leaders
bullshit and stereotypes... like "all Russians drink vodka and play balalayka"... no one leader in Russia has been threated bad.
Last USSR leader Gorbachev is still alive and somehow active. Archive and Gorbachov-fund are working in Moscow.
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Yeltsin gave his power to Putin in 2000. Yeltsin died, and now in his home-city opened memorial complex including museum and fund. https://yeltsin.ru/
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If speak about USSR then last (and only) leader who was threaten bad in his life was Hruschov in 1960s.
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Moses
bullshit and stereotypes... like "all Russians drink vodka and play balalayka"... no one leader in Russia has been threated bad.
Is it true you can only tell the women because they plait the hair under their arms?
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Well to be fair Moses most USSR leaders died in office. Difficult to prosecute a corpse.
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arsenal
Well to be fair Moses most USSR leaders died in office. Difficult to prosecute a corpse.
Ah, but it is not unheard of arsenal. There is the horrific account of the Lord Protector, Oliver Cromwell, who died in 1658, but after the monarchy was restored under King Charles II in 1660, Cromwell was exhumed in 1661, tried for treason and executed.
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The posthumous execution of the bodies of Oliver Cromwell, John Bradshaw, and Henry Ireton, from a contemporaneous print.
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Cromwell's body was exhumed from Westminster Abbey on 30 January 1661, the 12th anniversary of the execution of Charles I, and was subjected to a posthumous execution, as were the remains of John Bradshaw and Henry Ireton. (The body of Cromwell's daughter was allowed to remain buried in the Abbey.) His body was hanged in chains at Tyburn, London, and then thrown into a pit. His head was cut off and displayed on a pole outside Westminster Hall until 1685. Afterwards, it was owned by various people, including a documented sale in 1814 to Josiah Henry Wilkinson,[145][146] and it was publicly exhibited several times before being buried beneath the floor of the antechapel at Sidney Sussex College, Cambridge, in 1960.[143][147] The exact position was not publicly disclosed, but a plaque marks the approximate location . . .
Source: Wikipedia
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So many strange things about Russia Western medias distributing now...
Example https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...bute-2v50kv08j Red clothes of solidarity with wife of Navalny. :D :dash:
One of "news" sucked from middle finger...
When artists in theater have to show noise of the crowded place on the stage, they starting to say "what to say when have nothing to say" - all together their words sounds almost like "white noise" - visitors hear only "noise of crowded place". Medias now do the same - they have no news but should to publish something. So they starting to publish "what to say when have nothing to say". So appears red clothes of solidarity :)) - total bullshit...
By the way: Volkov - leader of "Navalny's administration" today announced - they cancel all protests till "warm time" - late spring.
Western media now will have even less sources for gossips. Should we expect some "middle-finger-news" like "Russian wears blue boxer pants as a sign of support to Navalny"?
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StevieWonders
Yeltsin did a deal with Putin not to be prosecuted in retirement in return for a peaceful transfer of power. I wonder who will do the same for Putin when his time comes.
Whoever he tells to do that .... as they wont get to BE the "next" unless he decides it I'm sure !
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Moses
Absolutely outrageous, stereotyping women as only interested in fashion. By way of balance, Moses, perhaps you could list the Top Twenty women active in Russian politics and government today - at the level of say Angela Merkel, Ursula von der Leyden, or Theresa May?
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StevieWonders
Absolutely outrageous, stereotyping women as only interested in fashion.
Well, then The Times should wait about week: in a week whole China will support Navalny and demonstrate solidarity with his wife.
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An interesting assessment of what Navalny might mean for the West - https://english.alaraby.co.uk/englis...d-what-he-isnt