..and nirish..Im shocked..shocked i say at your callousness...wheres your humanity..
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..and nirish..Im shocked..shocked i say at your callousness...wheres your humanity..
Oliver, it doesn't sound like your decision not to off him was because he was deaf, but simply that you found another boy more attractive. Nothing wrong with that.
I don't think I'd mind offing a deaf boy. I don't speak Thai, and many of the boys I've been with have minimal English, but then, I'm not offing them for their conversation. So if I found the boy attractive, I don't have a problem. Presumably he could communicate with at least one of the other boys, so you may have missed the opportunity for a 3some.
gerefan, what' a triple C?
A triple C is a Character Conversion Course. Latin should enrol on one after that last post of his.
NIrish, my mother taught us you should never make fun of the afflicted.
"Don't mock the afflicted"?
Are you sure you're not getting your mother mixed up with Frankie Howerd?
:D
dunno..gerefan..MB is deaf...cant hear my instructions...and he's scream ugly (must have been if even oliver turned him down)...think thats room for negotiation...afterall he's not exactly a young Brad Pitt look alike...now is he?? or do u offer to pay the same for a toyota corolla as u would for a lexus?? I know a rides a ride...but thats simply silly
matty...thast where u get all confused...he's deaf..not addled...hello!?! U do know the difference..especially as a so called blind person...
So I assume u r quite happy to order fillet mignon...get served rump steak..but still pay the fillet price!? Get real...
Not sure about the thing in common bit - But life here sure here is different. Khon Kaen, of course, is no longer a small city. In fact, this place and Korat are beginning to provide a lot of good opportunities for young people. I don't think they really feel the need (many of them) to head to Bangkok when they come of age. We shall see if it continues - At some point, the bubble is likely to burst, but then we'll just have to see if it can rebound. I love being able, though, to get to my husband's village in just 90 minutes - now, that's a whole other world entirely.
question for u KKJ, any gogo bars or MB in Khon Kaen?
Hey There Latin - Believe it or not, there are no gogo bars of any variety in KK - straight or gay. It seems that the local government has long had a policy against them, and it's worked to this point. There are places to hook up, and plenty of discos, but none that are exclusively gay. There is one disco that has one section that turns almost totally gay with hot young Thais after 11pm, but that's it. Sounds like a boring place - but I assure you - it's not. Just not any gogo bars.
Now to your money boy question - Yes - and loads of them. Khon Kaen university is here and is the largest university in Essan and I believe the 5th largest in Thailand. There are always young money boys looking to make some extra cash - They are not hard to find and they are eager to please. The level of English amongst that population is also surprisingly good, especially if you land a boy that is in the English program at KKU. A fun evening can be had out drinking and then back in bed - I'm not sure when they sleep, because they will probably end up at the disco after you say good night for the evening -
Hope that answers the question -
Cheers -
Jason
ok, so that kinda answers my question..a country boy no longer has to decamp all the way to BKK, he can just take a 90 minute bus ride to the nearest largish town to fuck his way into retirement.
Fucking one's way into retirement has always been my motto
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latintop, you do have a way with words!
Since Scotty thinks it is somehow relevant today, on an international forum, to quote catch phrases by an obuscure British comic, born more than 100 years ago, we can at least begin to fathom why he thinks his rare comments on gay Thailand, based upon limited personal experience from a mere decade ago, have any relevance today either.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe552
Why you think it's been "a decade" since I was in Thailand requires not only explanation but an indication of the basis on which you make that claim.
As to the rest of my post - Joe asked the question, and in public - am I meant to ignore it?
I would say that the large majority of my offs over the last 10 years and many visits documented here have had few options for life but they have nonetheless maintained an optimistic disposition. I am interested in other members experiences.
arsenal, I hope I'm reading your post correctly. You're saying that you don't expect to find a "life partner" in Thailand, but really enjoy the times you are there? Is that a fair summation?
In which case, I would agree with you. When I first started going, and met Kwan, and fell in love, I dreamed about living there full time one day. As has been teased out on another thread that's not an option. But I've had some amazing holidays, met some lovely guys and have great memories. I only had one bad time, and that was down to my drinking. But since then, it's been great, and I've missed it hugely over the last couple of years.
Nothing about my post relates to my life Joe, just my experience with Thai boys and their life chances. As I said, I would be very interested to hear from other members, especially those who have been there regularly over the last decade as Thailand has changed considerably in that time.
Sorry arsenal, maybe I'm being a bit dim, but I don't see the distinction between your life and your experience with Thai boys. Surely the latter is part of the former? Not wanting to start another row, just confused.
I don't find it confusing. I suppose some people are quite efficient at physically and emotionally compartmentalising their lives especially if there's a part involving buying sex from men young enough to be their children or grandchildren. The very mention of Thailand might raise eyebrows back home. Some of these guys aren't out at home and only "gay it out" in Thailand and other faraway destinations. I'm not at all saying this applies to arsenal as I don't know and don't care about his private life but I have met a couple of guys like the ones I described in my almost-a-year here.
An interesting point, sglad, thanks.
arsenal..ALL MB have an option...unless they have been kidnapped and kept chained to a bed they are all free to leave and do something else...there are lots of menial low paying jobs (beach attendant, construction work...)that require minimal education...or they could just stay in the countryside and work the fields.
Reason they are whores is because its quick easy money..catapults the good ones into the middle class if they were clever enough to save/invest their earnings.
Even the crappy ugly ones would if they put minimal effort into it earn more than the minimum daily wage of bht300.
As for maintaining an optimistic outlook, most show up with a fake smile...they know they are there to get fucked by a random stranger..most as in vast majority are easily led...guess after being used by countless guys they are used to being told what to do..they have limited self respect...many show up high on something ....these can be lotsa fun... ..apologies if I burst someones bubble about true love or something...they are not lost innocent creatures...they have chosen this life...
Latin. They have few options and one of those options is to be a mb. Despite the ungenerous deck of cards life dealt them they still have an optimistic manner. That's my point. Can't see how anyone can disagree with that.
Agreed. The pleasant disposition of Thai boys who have few opportunities going for them is often very apparent. And welcome.
It makes a contrast to the Western culture.
I sometimes find posters responses interesting. This being one of those times. From my perspective it does not matter why the OP felt bad about not offing a deaf boy. Opinions about whether a person should or should not feel bad about not offing a deaf boy 20 years ago are opinions that reflect that posters opinions..and as like to say opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.
For me, what is interesting is what feeling bad about not offing a deaf boys tells us about the OP.
Maybe the OP seems themselves are a decent person who wants to help others...or does not want to harm others..was asked to help someone and did not. I do not know..I am guessing but it may be they see their actions as not consistent with the view they have of themselves and it is that inconsistency that bothers them.
Just a thought.
I suppose I should clarify....it was twenty years ago and so my recollections are not infallible. I was in Cockpit. At some stage, a group of the dancers approached me and pointed out a friend (in whom I had not been interested) and told me that he needed an off that night or he'd lose his job. Would I please off him? i didn't fancy him and so I said no. It was later- perhaps much later- that I recalled the event and regretted it.
The issue was not his deafness but his impending unemployment; the disability was relevant in so far as it was pointed out that he was deaf and this made it more difficult attract customers.
I was reminded of what happened during thc course of the fascinating discussion of the life-chances and opportunities for working-class youngsters in Thailand.
I think that's a very good point, and looking at Oliver's posts that may well be the source of the regret. I can relate it to a couple of instances in my own life, that still niggle at me, where I could have done more to help someone, and in hindsight should have.
I had a thing going with a deaf lad at home for about 6 months, decades ago.
I can't remember whether it was before or after the thing I had going with the 3 midgets, but gentle readers will be relieved to know it wasn't during.
He was profoundly deaf, with two enormous hearing aids, and poor speech - when I was a kid we'd have called him "deaf & dumb" but of course that's politically incorrect now.
His deafness caused few problems really and he lived in an apartment with two other young lads who were similarly afflicted.
Did you try setting up a sound equaliser with a screen to project the graphics so that the deaf lads could have noted the pitch and intensity of the groans and moans in the room?
Coincidentally, I'm due to have a hearing test next week, and it's like I'll need a hearing aid.
Hope the hearing aid won't be necessary, Joe, but if it is, at least they are quite small these days.
I've an American friend who sometimes went with the boys to the discos. At first I couldn't understand how he could bear the noise. Then I realized that he couldn't hear a thing. He wears two hearing aids, easily removable at discos. Incredible lip reading skill he has.
I always wear ear protection at discos in Thailand or Vietnam - of the type where the volume is clipped to a safe level, but speech can still be heard
I already have bilateral tinnitus and I don't need it made worse thanks to the unregulated sound pressure levels they operate at.