Ok. Well it's obvious that he's going to be allowed to remain. He'll get worse now. Surfcrest/Moses: Don't say you weren't warned.
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Ok. Well it's obvious that he's going to be allowed to remain. He'll get worse now. Surfcrest/Moses: Don't say you weren't warned.
I've been quiet for a while as I've been a little taken aback at the level of venom directed at me by some posters......and the crazy accusations...some of u guys sound like trump supporters.
a447...I wasnt on a roll when I posted 4 times in a row...was simply trying to address some of the issues raised by various posters...and no I wasnt jerking off...I save my erections for the real thing.
Sex is my hobby...apart from gym/jogging I have no interests outside work...except for sex.
I love sex...its an all consuming passion...I see it everywhere...when I scan a room most people see faces...I see crotches and butts...
I have sex just about everyday...and when I say sex I mean anal sex...not some silly handjob/BJ...I feel like I've missed out or failed if I dont fuck.
When I'm out and about my grindr is always on......I'd hate to miss on a good fuck because it was off...I've fucked in toilets/change rooms/parks...and once I've done it/conquered that random arse....I loose interest...just leave...most times he's still half undressed and I'm already leaving ....
They say like attracts like...and I guess that my circle of friends...not all....but especially the ones I party with/travel with are also a little out there...so my behaviour is not shocking to them.....some of my straight buddies are way more extreme...
I assume that I'm able to do what I do because I take no nonsense...I tire of hearing about MBs that upon entering your room decide they want to spend hours showering and napping before they attend to your needs...my reaction is WTF..like who's paying...who's the boss...grow a pair!!
I tire of reading about dates where the MB after confirming that he does bottom ...changes his mind halfway through the date..like after a few strokes decides its too much trouble...thats just plain false advertising.
Lastly..when I told my free loading house guest (who is still here...) to pack his shit and go when he wasnt prepared to service my buddy...it was on a sunny saturday afternoon...all his shit would fit into his suitcase..and there are like a dozen backpackers a short bus ride away...afterall he was able to move in in a flash...reverse is also possible.
Anyway gave me lotsa pleasure to see him assume the position and service my buddy while I giggled in the background...talking dirty..stuff like " time to pay the rent u little whore".
And again..its my house/my rules....no exceptions..the whole buffalo die send money..doesnt work with me...never has...never will...I would have to see that damn dead buffalo first.
Anyway think I will take a break..clearly my actions/attitude. offend some posters deeply...even causing some to attack the administrators which I think is uncalled for as being an administrator is a thankless task now made even worse.
YAWN.
Nothing to see here. Move on!
SEXUAL guy is Latintopp....I for one don't give a crap about what you like or don't like...you sound like a control freak and attention seeker on this forum....would be nice if you just went away...
Our goal all along has been to build a better site around the Forum and to allow members to write what they want and to participate with the Board with as few rules as possible. This is what has separated us from the other two main sites. Hopefully, we'll be able to continue along this path moving forward.
Surfcrest
I'm sure Latin can find a site dedicated to his particular tastes elsewhere on the net. There was never a reason for him to post his disgusting filth specifically on this site.
You could envisage asking any other person to continue posting but just leave any "disgusting filth" out - but the problem with LatintopXXX is that his only contribution to the forum is the disgusting filth.
I can;t remember reading such sanctimonious crap as has been posted here by the self appointed arbiters of taste, It's been like reading The Daily Mail online which would surely describe A447's sexploits as disgusting filth,
Expats spared the racists drivel that the The Daily Hate-Mail publishes everyday is indeed fortunate. My reading of Latin's posts suggests that he'd be at home with its immigrant-bashing- his domination fantasies usually seem to involve black and brown guys.
Firstly, I couldn't give a shit what a newspaper would think about my posts. I don't publish them there. I post them here, on a site dedicated to sex tourists having sex with Asian guys.
Secondly, I can't see how anyone could possibly equate accounts of how I treat the guys with the way Latin tried to make us believe he behaved.
Indeed, even Latin himself has described my reports as being tame, basically unexciting vanilla sex. If he doesn't equate my reports with his own so I fail to see how anyone else could.
I'm surprised, pennyboy, that you of all posters here would draw such a long bow.
Hey Founty - it's your lucky day (or not):
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Pennyboy: If you really can't see the difference between ALL other members postings (often about sex) and those of Latin (one topic repeated over and over again) then no one here can explain it to you.
Ok, so apparently the weather is getting cooler out West, and everyone is a little on the bitchy side? Why the all of a sudden community-wide pile on towards latin? I don't like the guy either, and have voiced that many times, but never seen a backlash like this directed at him.
CDMatt: A fair question, Speaking for myself. I'm tired of often high quality discussions being spoiled by his pubescent level posts. I'm tired of reading the same drivel time and time and time and time again ad nauseum. I find his level of postings so completely at odds with everyone else here. He contributes nothing whatsoever to this board. He claims so many things and yet there are so many holes in what he writes. I could go on but I think you get the idea. And yes, you're right, to the best of my knowledge there has never been a backlash like this before against any member here which tells you something. It's a very strong group of long term members who are behind the calls for his removal and that too tells you something. It's not about liking or disliking. It's about so much more than that. The child at the dinner party is cute for a while but then you want him to go to bed so you can have a proper adult conversation. We think it's time for Latin to go to bed.
I'm just saying, this is starting to turn into a witch burning festival, and as history will teach us, that's generally a really bad idea.
I'm not condoning latin, and think he's full of shit. Various posts of his are physically impossible, while most others are simply unrealistic. Anyone who has spent a nominal amount of time in Thailand knows if you act like that you will end up as a another flying farang in the newspaper, or worse.
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To be clear - I didn't want him removed - I'd have far rather he'd voluntarily modified his output - but it seems to me he's incapable of posting about anything else other than humiliating and hurting the lads who give the rest of us so much pleasure - 99.9% of the time with a smile, politeness, kindness and without any hassle whatsoever.
It pains me to think that anybody would treat them in the way that LatintopXXX does, or claims to do. I don't believe that there are more than a very small number of boys who would consent to the sort of treatment LatintopXXX alleges he inflicts on them.
Therefore if LatintopXXX is telling the truth then I believe at least some of these boys do not fully understand what they are agreeing to - and if he is fantasising then I for one do not wish to be associated with that kind of perverted fantasy on a general forum.
I agree. That would have been the way to go, but as we saw from his last post here, he is indeed incapable of censoring himself,as it was just more of the same shit.Quote:
To be clear - I didn't want him removed - I'd have far rather he'd voluntarily modified his output
I really think his posts are a danger to guys reading this site for info on what to do and how to behave in Thailand. Follow Latin's lead and you could end up severely injured, or worse, and it is for that reason I think he should be banned.
Or preferably, just ban his sm fantasy posts. We should be encouraging respect on this forum for the guys we encounter in Thailand. Hopefully, that respect is mutual.
All I can say is thank god I never believed any of his stories of domination and humiliation. If I did I would have been out of here long ago.
Of course it is - but that only prevents one from being exposed to them rather than being associated with them by virtue of being a member of the same board.
I do wish people would read what is written rather than comment on what they would like to have been written
Okay. I would like to inject a sense of balance into this thread.
There is a total signed-up membership of 919 in Sawasdeenetwork. A smaller-than 10% (18) have responded to the thread, as under:
Latintop (17)
Arsenal (22)
Scottish-guy (14)
A447 (10)
Fountainhall (5)
cdnmatt (5)
Moses (5)
francois (4)
Surfcrest (4)
Frequent
/ Oliver (3)
AsDaRa /
Blueskytoday (2)
Paperboy / Couple / christianpfc / pennyboy / Yraen (1)
1. The consensus of the majority of those above seems not to agree with or condone Latin’s personal proclivities.
2. It seems that Latin doesn’t give a damn for other peoples’ opinions and believes that those not sharing his opinions are wrong-minded. It could also be that Latin is acting like a “troll” and deliberately enticing the bait-fish to bite at his “callousness”. Or, as cdnmatt suggested, “he’s full of shit”.
3. It seems that a vociferous few are trying to either bring Latin to their commonly accepted standard of behaviour (who is the arbiter of this?) or have him removed from the board (whatever happened to freedom of expression?).
Gentlemen all (I am casting a wide net :mocking_mini:), the opinions expressed throughout this thread will never convince any of the protagonists to change their views. Therefore, IMO, this thread should be discontinued and closed; it has already been “beaten to death”.
All those in favour, click Like. Let us find out whether a majority exists.
First of all A447, of course I don't equate your posts with those of Latin. My point was one person's pleasure can be another's disgusting filth. There appears to be 3 main protagonists against Latin, We even had SG explain what Arsenal really meant in one of his posts and later Arsenal reciprocated by telling us what SG really meant in one of his posts. Oliver even popped up a couple of time to suggest that Latin must be racist and anti immigration. A flight of fantasy but not surprising from one who thinks Celtic supporters are the best in the world ( :-) for Sg ) Anyway I don't think anyone should be banned if they follow the board rules even if a few members shout loud enough. I have avoided using capital letters and bold lettering as I think you are all capable of basic understanding. By the way Mail on line is still available on the App :-)
Yraen: 23 apparently. It is in the very fabric of free expression to call for others right to free expression to be removed if it is found offensive, so in that respect we're quite within the rules of the game. Always has been and always will be. Perhaps those who wish to receive Latins' posts could press your like button and he can pm them when he next needs a fix.
Pennyboy: While it's true that Scottish and I both clarified what the other was saying this was only because others were trying to put a slant on what had been written that wasn't there. Notably Surfcrest himself.
Yraen , as one of the "vociferous few" I have already outlined why Latin's filth shoukd be removed from the board -either by banning him or banning his vile posts. In my case, it has nothing to do with his behaviour per se ; it's about the potential negative effects of his posts on those who visit this site seeking information.
SG wrote:
And like SG, I also do not want to be associated with that. And neither do you, given that you gave a "like" to SG's post.Quote:
Therefore if LatintopXXX is telling the truth then I believe at least some of these boys do not fully understand what they are agreeing to - and if he is fantasising then I for one do not wish to be associated with that kind of perverted fantasy on a general forum.
Yraen wrote:
An interesting comment. To quote your good self from your post above,Quote:
IMO, this thread should be discontinued and closed
(who is the arbiter of this?)
(whatever happened to freedom of expression?)
It's true that we have 919 members, but the vast majority do not post here. I'm guessing regular posters would number less than 30.
And rather than asking members to click "like" if they want the thread closed, why not ask them if they want Latin's S&M fantasies banned from the forum? I think that would make more sense as you'd get a clear indication of where the membership stands. You may be surprised to find it is not just "a vociferous few."
Let's have a new forum rule. Any member continuously posting lies of a repetitive nature shall be banned from further posting. Simple!
Who shall be the Determiner of truth or lie?
OK. Then who shall it be?
He who pays the bills, I would have thought.
I love the way those who believe any forum should be completely open to all postings, no matter how much drivel is spewed, always - but always - shout to the rafters “freedom of expression”!
Do these self-same arbiters of freedom always fail to realise that, as with all freedoms, freedom of expression comes with obligations and responsibilities which in virtually all societies do impose certain restrictions? It is perfectly incorrect to say that anyone can say/write anything they want. The rights of others have also to be taken into consideration. As does the law. There is already a prohibition on discussion on one such issue here – and rightly so, in my view. So if there is already one prohibition, a rule has surely been broken and the door is therefore open for others.
Legal systems in various countries do not permit freedom of speech to conflict with certain other rights and freedoms. These usually include libel, slander, pornography and obscenity. Where a legal system might permit one or more of these limitations, social approbation can also be a reason for limiting freedom of speech.
In a forum dedicated to gay men and frequently their sexual and other activities, I guess it’s hard to play the pornography and obscenity cards. Whatever is written, I reckon it’s unlikely any member is going to sue for libel or slander. Sue whom?
So that leaves the social approbation route. In that case, it seems to me that where a majority of members, active or otherwise, vociferously disapprove of a certain continuing content or continuing manner of posting, then the freedom of speech argument is plainly as dead as the Monty Python parrot.
I would add to fountainhalls' piece. Freedom of expression does not mean you are entitled to write anything you want anywhere you want. It means you can set up your own place and publish there if you choose to.
It's ridiculous to suggest there ought to be an "arbiter of truth", and we don't need to look too far in the past to realise it's even more ridiculous to suggest that it ought to automatically be "he who pays the bills". The last owner would not have recognised the truth if he had found it in Monty's chicken soup (but by the grace of God he found salmonella instead).
The board thrives on opinion and one man's truth is often another man's bare faced lie.
Latin-gate is not an issue of truth or fiction. For those of us who spoke out, it's a matter of whether SGT is a discussion board which occasionally includes sexual content within posts or whether it's a pornographic S&M erotica board on which one single member either plays out his deviant sexual fantasies or constantly relates his deviant sexual activities (take your pick).
Of course the final arbiters of what is permissible (as opposed to judging what's "the truth") is the Admin team - but that rightly does not preclude members from expressing a view
I would like to see more members actually coming down on one side or another. I therefore urge every member to make a decision on this and make that decision public, whichever side you agree with. Perhaps those of us who want Latin gone will be surprised how many disagree with us. No matter. still climb off the fence and make your views known.
It's immaterial to me whether he stays or not. More pertinent surely is no-one should be allowed continuously to post such filthy, racist (yes, they are racist), imperialist, sadistic, demeaning comments. Taken together, these have no place in the right of freedom of expression.
Let him stay. I don't know if he is speaking the truth or not, but there are many sadomasochistics who are despicable but, nonetheless,may be speaking the truth. If anything just ignore or not respond to anything he posts or just vomit.
Probably trolling and most likely getting off on anything and everything that is posted about him. But, at the same time, I don't recall him posting anything detrimental or slanderous toward any members of this forum?
In the past there have been some posters such as Neal and LMTU who were totally nasty in their posts.
Thus, Francois is off the fence.
If you're forcing to "choose a side", then for me, I sad latin stays. Not because I like the guy, but because I have various principles that are far more important to me than whether or not I like latin's posts.
First, I think some of you are making a mountain out of a molehill. Is this really that important to you and your life?
Second, I don't agree with mob mentality, and if you yell loud enough you can get your own way.
Third, it's a slippery slope. What happens if you're successful in getting banned, then later on the mob turns against you? I know several members would love to see me banned, because they think I'm full of lies, and don't even reside in Thailand. Who's to say I'm not next on the chopping block?
Fourth, latin hasn't broken any board forum rules.
Fifth, this is a privately run board, and Surfcrest and Moses will run it as they see fit. This isn't a democracy.
Sixith, sometimes it's good to be reminded of the cruel and disturbed individuals out there, because it helps ensure you stay on the cortrrect path, and continue to strive to be a good person.
PS. Sorry for all the typos. Tired, and screen reader can't keep up.
I have had one nagging question for Latin since this thread was started. Latin has provided a young man with a place to stay and in return the young man must participate, against his will, in some very disturbed activities for one hour a day.
Thus far, the young man has kept his word.
Now, at some point Latin is going to run out of disturbing and humiliating sexual acts to subject this young man to. Further, at some point the "thrill" will be gone...
So what then? Will the young man still be allowed to continue staying in the room that you provide him after you become bored and tired of him? Will he be allowed to continue staying in the room that you provide him after your interest wanes?
Or will you kick him out because you lose interest?
TaoR: Exactly. So either it's true in which case that's lovely stuff on a public forum or it isn't true in which case why is he writing it. A genuine heads I win tails you lose case Latin.