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Fully gay and fully straight are cultural categories that we use to navigate in life. This is especially true for younger guys, even though they on the surface tend to be very firm in claiming to be straight unless they are gay. Luckily, in Thaliand and other SE Asian countries, the gay/straight categories seem to be tight to the public image and not so much what you actually do in bed, e.g. the example of seemingly straight Thai boys with Thai girl friends accepting varoius offers from farangs to join them in bed for a small amount of pocket money. I personally believe that the money plays an important role in the this - the money can (totally unconsciously!) be a good psychological excuse for the Thais boy to join the farang in bed. It might not lead to a glorious money boy career for the boy, but it can serve as an opportunity to explore your sexuality.
I consider myself gay, but I know that it's not entirely true if I claim that I have only thought of boys and guys since my young teenage years, but it has MAINLY been guys and boys for sure, and over time I - knowingly or unknowingly - have developed an identity as being almost exclusively gay because that is just easier to manage and defend in public, especially in the west where we insist that there is a clear and consistent link between your public/family sexual identiy and what you actually are doing in bed. In SE Asia, they tend to be a little more willing to split up the public/family image (cultural institutions) and the bedroom reality and human sexuality (bodily physics, attraction, fun etc ) outside the gay/straight categories.
I disagree. All my reading, including the Kinsey report, indicates that the current academic view is that human sexuality is a linear projection with absolute hetero at one end and absolute homsexuality at the other, along the line connecting the two are varying degrees of sexual desires. Bisexuality is in the middle - just a graphic way of looking at it. There are those men who would rather die than touch another man and those, like me, who can barely tell one woman from another. Seriously, when watching crime dramas with larrge casts I can get confused because I can't seem to remember the various female faces. We've all had the one who will let you touch them for cash , simply can't get hard, need to watch porn and forget you're there. This is not simply a way "to navigate life" is there position on the spectrum of human response to sex.
Pattaya is in the midst of low season and boys are anxious....Yesterday was at one of my favorite go go bars with all straight guys.....I know many well, I asked one who is quite well hung if he could top another guy I liked, after they had a brief discussion the 3 of us were together and one of the "straight" guys was the bottom....you can fill in the rest!
[QUOTE=Manforallseasons;242705....you can fill in the rest![/QUOTE]
As the straight guy said to you after he came ?? :)
For those who care: I am a stalwart linear projection. At one time I seemed to be a leaning linear, but I put the kibosh on that after meeting a pure projection in a gay bar in Vancouver. I've never looked back.
Thank you and have a good day.
Smiles do you think it wise for someone your age to be awake at this hour?
One of the things I would like to do,one day, is to have 4 or 5 cute straight boys fucking 2 bottom farangs.
I would be one of the two farangs, of course.
And the boys would take turns fucking us while watching porn on tv.
I have to find the right farang though, and 4 or 5 nice boys who accept to stay some time with us. Enough time to cum twice, once per farang. And why not one more time in the mouth :)
will have to be a virile young guy on viagra motivated by straight porn thats gonna clamber onto the wrinkly old fossils on this site
Ah... the voice of experience ....
nah...sorry not really...Im a top...remember. I think ive topped lotsa straight MBs but who the hell knows...they all tell fibs...like yeah...u r sooo big...
Where would you place these "straight" money boys on Kinsey's hetero-homo scale?
kinsey and his scales...who the hell knows...doesnt actually matter...I just like em masculine..gay or not...cant stand queenie flamboyant girlie stick figure guys...
Interesting discussion of 3somes.
I am glad that forum members are NOT prudish and can discuss such issues frankly....
I'm finding this more and more common. Mention a 3sum via an App and the response comes back "I have friend". It was once the case that it was up to the customer to organise the guys; nowadays I'd have to say it's getting to 50% where "I have friend" is the reply. I'd organised a guy and his friend to come over on my birthday; at the last minute the friend cancelled. "Never mind, I have another friend" was the response. Speaking of birthdays a dear friend of mine (former money girl) had hers last Monday but I don't think she had a single companion to celebrate, let alone two. I had forgotten all about it and she lives up-country otherwise I might have baked a cake. Woe is me
It seems obvious the Asian guys are getting accustomed to these Western "perversions". I wrote in another post quite recently about boys now getting naked quite readily
Yes indeed. The “professionals” on the apps are often introducing their friends.
Recently one of them told me that he had a friend and I told him to bring him too.
And it was great because his friend was in fact much cuter than the other one.
But what I like the most is when they bring a friend that is not a pro, or one that never did it.
I like to find these ones most.
frequent, u really are a silly old soul...western perversions..really...like the west invented sex and all its various permutations....u were still living in caves clothed in bark and animal skins while they (the east) were already doing it non stop on silk sheets
The sense of irony doesn't work in the Land of the Long White Shroud? You know the old saying about if you have to choose between a conspiracy and a cock-up, always choose the cock-up? In my case, if you have to choose between thinking frequent is being serious and frequent is pulling someone's leg, there's also an obvious choice. You'd think a bunch of carefree queens would understand that, but I suspect a bunch of ageing sex tourist sodomites isn't exactly the same thing
Let's forget Old King Cole for a moment.
The introducer in the threesome is entitled to a commission for bringing his friends along voluntarily and casually. Everyone is pleased with the arrangement. There should not be any pettiness among friends.
Interestingly one of my regulars came around yesterday with a “new friend”. After it was over my regular gave the “new friend” only 500 baht - poor performance!
My attempts at threesomes have been unsuccessful and ended about six years ago.
However, at much the same time, P and I were at Ambiance (he was about thirty at the time) when a single,youngish (late twenties), white American guy was a guest. One day there was a timid knock on my door. P was out somewhere at the time.
The young man said something along the lines of the following; " I saw you with your boyfriend in the lift yesterday and thought you looked very nice together. Any chance of a threesome?"
I could understand the reference to P "looking nice" (he still does); but me?
I was astonished and embarrassed. Sorry, I said and blamed my refusal on P''s shyness. A lie.
I was sorry for the young guy and later had a chat with him about Pattaya. He'd somehow got the wrong impression about the city; commercial sex was not his scene. I told him that there were many other places in Thailand where could meet up with guys who were not looking for money, both local and falang.
"My attempts at threesomes have been unsuccessful and ended about six years ago"
'Long time' threesomes are always a little tricky because with one person you can pack them off to the bathroom as soon as you get back to your room, and hide your cash and valuables before they come out again. With two bed mates this is harder.
With a threesome you also have to be careful not to leave one of them feeling left out.
But sex aside, waking up in a crowded bed, between young hot hard bodies - is a very pleasant way to start your day..
In my upcoming trip I will stay first time at Jomtien complex
Is it possible to arrange 3 some with 2 boys from the bars there ?
I've never understood the appeal of a threesome. I don't think you get the best of both boys I think you get the full enjoyment of neither. It's impossible to play football and cricket at the same time.
But MFAS dislike of twinkie winkie boys aside, of which Jomtien is their natural habitat the answer is yes. I'm sure other members can advise on how to proceed.
You know the Pattaya sex business doesn't offer buy one get free. Perhaps it should. Haha.
I like twinks I don't like hunks so it won't be a problem if this the sort of boys in Jomtien complex.
As a long-time practitioner of 3somes I can say that MFAS' comments show his usual ignorance and general homophobia. It's impossible to generalise whether any one person will prefer any sexual position over another just by looking at them or even listening to what they say. I had regular 3somes with the same two bar boys over several years. The only "rule" I find is not to take two guys from the same bar - and even then you will find in larger bars that there are boys who will go with each other. Not having sex with a "friend" seems a universal preference the world over. I can't answer for Pattaya, which is merely a large country town, but in Bangkok on the Apps such as Grindr if I'm chatting to a guy or - more likely - he has sent me a message first, I say up front (as I did yesterday) "looking for bottom for 3some" (my regular "top/vers" was feeling frisky) and see where the conversation goes
As for having anyone sleep over - no thanks, Old Git
Sleep overs just don't happen with me. Paranoia I guess, don't want to be murdered in bed, robed in bed or whatever else can happen to one with a stranger(s) inside the same room as I while I sleep. I have tried it in the past a couple of times in the past and a decent night's sleep never happens, just sort of doze waiting for the shoe to drop.