Anyone else noticed that Bucknaway is always sweet in his postings, no matter how hostile others are in their replies...?
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Anyone else noticed that Bucknaway is always sweet in his postings, no matter how hostile others are in their replies...?
Maybe Buck, perhaps as one of the witches in Macbeth :flower: (Only kidding, I think?) :love7:Quote:
Originally Posted by bucknaway
What happens to Katoey's when they get old? (40+). Where do they go? How do they live? With who do they live? Husbands? An Ashram of aging Katoeys?
I think Bucky you may be confusing sexual attraction with gender identity? Lady boys although born biological males, don't themselves identify with or feel male. They feel like a women, and the phrase you often hear from them is that they feel like a women who was born in a man's body. Once they have started to dress and live as a women, it's meaningless to think of them as a boy, (they are women) or to try and see the boy inside, that boy never really existed. More so once they start on hormone treatments and have had a sex-change op. But of course they can't shed their Y chromosome, so they'll always be somewhat atypical looking and functioning women.
As you are not attracted to women, why would you want to sleep with a lady-boy? Makes no sense to me.
Double Bubble, toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble!
Oh you are so in trouble once I finish making this foot bath! LOL :bom:
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Originally Posted by buaseng
Thanks..... I don't see a need for a cyber war of words. Besides, who wants to be on WowPows bad side? Not me! That is for sure buddy boy.... :)
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Originally Posted by SnowViking
Well Aunty, your post should be titled "Common Sense" but if there are many more posts like this it will kill the topic! LOL
As far as sleeping with a ladyboy.... Well, Thailand is known for the ladyboys just as Philadelphia is known for cheese steaks. When you go to Philly (Philadelphia) you have to have a cheese steak just to say you did. Well I am almost tempted to try a ladyboy. I don't think I will but I might.... Who knows... Maybe if the planets are all in position and the air is pushing the right breeze and the ocean is at the right level of calmness.... Than who knows.... :idea:
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Originally Posted by Aunty
Its interesting how much heated debate this topic always brings up. On the message boards devoted to Ladyboys there is always someone asking "So are you guys gay or what???" Of course it always brings howls of protest with at least 50% saying there's NO WAY they are gay because they could never go with a guy! And here on a Gay board the inference is the opposite - you can't be gay because they look like girls. Funny the lengths people will go to to try to put everyone in a box with a label on it.
For the record: I consider myself Gay and not bi. I was with a ladyboy (boobs and big tackle) for 1 1/2 years but we broke up due to the "bipolar" issues due to a combination of hormones and party drugs (yabba and xtasy). Current BF (see avatar) is a ladyboy "wannabe". My personal preference, most of the time, is for "fem-boys" and not ladyboys as such, but I've also been know to have a thing for guys with copper-red curly hair and white skin (go figure).
If I try to put my finger on what the attraction is, I think I would say its the transgressive nature that makes it exciting. Thats the only thing that there seems to be in common with ladyboy-lovers since they are all over the map sexually.
As to the question of what's driving these boys to become girls, I would say that a large portion (50%) are what we would term transexual and really want to be girls. Eventually they will have full sex changes and live as female. Most of the rest are in more of an expierimental mode and are excited by the scene and are young guys working out their sexual identity. They are more what we would consider "tranvestites" and very effeminite gays. Very, very few are in it only for the money or to get out of military service.
To answer Bucky's original post: What is driving the demand for Ladyboys is the ladyboys themselves. They are being who they want to be.
Bucky, you are in the middle of an Aristotelian Angst. Try to get past the Western idea that everything has to be categorized and put in a box with a name. The older you get and the more things you see in this crazy world the more you'll realize that 2,500 year old paradigm just isn't up to it anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by bucknaway
To answer some other questions/comments:
Some will go back to their hometowns and open shops, some will stay in the Big City and get jobs as travel agents, accountants etc. Many will work in beauty salons. Some will become mama-sans (HORRORS!) or open their own bar or karaoke joint. Some will even get "married" to a Thai or, believe it or not, Farang boyfriend. Some, sadly, will commit suicide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aunty
Most end up becoming old gay "Aunties", Aunty, to the young gay boys just starting out.
Now you're talking Bucky! No need to go to Phuket. In Pattaya try Jenny Star bar on Walking Street. Or maybe Hi Boss bar on Soi 6 for the Big Girls. Also Stringfellows and Club 131. There are at least half a dozen others scattered about. In Bangkok go to Nana Plaza to Obsessions, Temptations or Cassanova (but stay out of Patpong-bad rep).Quote:
Originally Posted by bucknaway
Not at all Wowpow. They are very much in demand and very popular. I'm not sure if I can post a link to dirty pics here but if you want to see what I mean you can google "Mint, Ladyboy" and "Nancy, Ladyboy" to see 2 of the more famous/infamous. Nancy, alas, is now retired and living in Australia but Mint is still working freelance in Bangkok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wowpow
Again, I think its the trangressive nature of the thing (having a hung ladyboy with boobs top you) that is the attraction.
COME ON BOYS! FREE YOUR MINDS! The rest will follow.... :nike:
I was curious about lady boys so had sex with a one from Jenney Bar. Her cock was bigger than my bf who is very much a muscle man, he was jealous.
She was very beautiful and the sex was great. don't knock till you try it.
Maybe I will put up a post searching for a 3 way where one of the 3 is a ladyboy and see what offers come my way. When I am in Thailand I am willing to try almost anything.... I won't try drugs or poppers or let myself be tied-up by a stranger but I am willing to do some things that would make Ms Sanitree gasp and clutch her pearls.... :geek:
There is a spanish film titled 20 Centimeters, which kinda covers the topic. It is more of a Spanish ladyboy not Thai. However, there is some insight into what ladyboys might want to become. Film isn't great, however, it is watchable. It is out on DVD. I agree with Kenc about people categorizing everyone into neat boxes. You would think a gay forum members would be more open to all the possibilities that do actually exist in this world.