Details please. I never made it there, discouraged by negative reports and their pay-in-advance policy and pricing and no masseurs who are my type (except for Vit, now gone?).
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pay in advance...agree, just that would turn me off a place....places all the power in their hands...
Christian all the negative things you said about Scandic are spot on. Plus it's rundown and of a very grubby appearance, I was there a month ago and got immediately stamped for 1,500 baht. So I refused and left, they weren't to happy and I'm to old now a 1 on 4 confrontation. With Helios closed I find the best place to go is Royal House, 1,400 baht for full on service and they are more than pleased to see us. Cheers.
Can I get a full body massage with a very happy ending at the Zing Resort Hotel? If so how much is the requested fee. Thanks.
I like to get around town and go to different massage shops and not get set with the same boys, that is unless I meet a stand out. One massage shop I haven't been to for 4-5 years is Somjit massage besides Tukcon. I used to be a regular there but many boys gave very ordinary massages and in some cases the boys wouldn't get naked let alone give a full on happy ending. So has anyone been to Somjit lately, if so were the massages ok with full on happy endings or the same as it was when I ceased going there. Also if someone has been there recently what was the cost of a one hour oil massage and if a full on happy ending was had what was the asking tip. I prefer Royal House but a change can make the situation much more fun. Cheers.
Andy...reallly...u r recommending a 40 year old "git"...I know that generally speaking Thais look young for their age...but 40????
I know what you mean. But he looks very feet for his age and, more importantly, can do a real massage, and not just slide his hands over your body. My best massage in Thailand was when I was over 30 with a guy noticeably older than me, whom I met in Dongtan and brought to my room. We had a small talk on the beach and he stated that he had been studying massage at the temple for 6 months, and this seemed to be true, since, being myself top and preferring twinkies, nevertheless, it was my best 2-hour massage ever. Needless to say, it wasn't just a massage?.. I felt just like a butter in his hands, and he used his ass as the perfect massage tool) Skill is everything!
Yes, skills are far more important (for me at least) as looks-plus that > half the time you lie on front anyway and cannot see him while he does very lusty moves. If there is perhaps also some interesting conversation then even better, but not required perse. But for me I detest these palces that MAY be offer more-it is either/or: dont mind lady for the feet only after a long walking day, but if I lay out those princely sums in those labelled shops I do expect also the full service.from the house and possibly the best and hardest and longest. Some can also (my longest lasting dear friend) improve in time and learn even more very sensual tricks.
Latin: untill some age Thai+ASEAN looks young but then they suddenly age quite fast. Well, most of them.
Your lust for young twinkies implies that his skills in the nouat thae (real msg) cannot be that high anyway-too young for that. But highly doubt you even would want that. When are you finally now also coming here and not just dreaming so we can enjoy some more of your saucy reports about s-excapades? Does it all remain greek to you?
..im NOT into twinkies....how insulting...and dont do the whole "the lady doth protest..,.or whatever....my ideal age is early twenties...im no trainer...havent got the patience
Some short-time hotels have mirrors on the walls or even ceiling. In a hotel room, by chance mirror on wardrobe faced bed. Why don't massage shops have mirrors on the wall so you can see your masseur while lying on front?
I now made it a habit asking boys I bring to my room for back massage, and results vary widely. From refusal, poor massage (even after I show them how I like it, no improvement) to good. About one out of three can give a good back massage.
Unless I'm misinterpreting your post, sometimes you are looking for a good, professional, legitimate massage rather than happy ending massages all the time. It has been my experience that the best legitimate massages are given by the blind masseurs. They are highly trained and skilled.
Some-admittedly not that many-such msg shops also offer that. Or perhaps in the more costly VIP-rooms. Remember now from long ago such a room-mattress on floor-which had a large loose mirror one could set upright or on the side. But perhaps nowadays all the smartfones have overtaken that- I am very weary for them. Yes, in short-time HTLrooms it will be much more widespread.
Aber weil du ja die meiste schon in deine Zimmer empfängt-kannste da nicht ´ne Spiegel setzen? Mach dir eine Komfort+luxus-Verwöhn-Zimmer.
(war im Ibis Ngam Duplee , 6er Stock vor einige tage und sah dann dieses Retro-Indian Restrt und Bai Bon mit schöner Dachterrasse hoch-also du wohnst dort etwa?
Yes, the latter is blinding obvious. But again: you were known for these saucy reports about all your sensual adventures-nothing to be seen of that anymore since many years-pity.
The difference between twink and young 20yr old is marginal or very hazy. As so many things are not clear-cut here. Experience may come with time but that is also no garantee.
I had not been to Somjit for several years so did give it a try most recently.
The house fee for a massage was 400 Baht; the tip to the masseur was up to you. As for full on happy endings, not quite sure what you were looking for? I received a hand job as I have had in the past, although some years ago, had the best massage and happy ending ever. The owner told me she fired that masseur since he liked bom, bom too much.Weird! The lad today did get naked after a bit and did cum as they all have, as in the past. The selection of masseurs was limited to about 4 lads.
1000 as usual and, as usual, no response from masseur.
I'm not critical at all when tipping 1,000 baht but what gets me is most times I contribute more to the session than the guy who's getting paid to perform the actual service. Many are very happy getting off but very few waver from the 1,000 baht tip,
I walked past Helios massage yesterday and it was open again. I was there at around 2 pm and there was only one boy available, so I opted for him. The guy was tall with a great body. His massage skills were barely average but his happy ending was much better. He was probably a 6 out of 10, which doesn't really deserve a 1,000 baht tip. Anyway I paid him and noted that I'll make Royal House my preference, that is unless some other new ones open up By the way the Relax massage opposite Le Bordeaux restaurant has been totally stripped out so that's another massage shop gone in that area.
In recent months I've noticed that the number of massage shops and boys is dwindling. Are the boys moving to other areas or they seeking much more acceptable careers paths.
OR: hold hope! Here in BKK in this area there is suddenly such a lot of renovating, buildings sold/newly rented with new holders trying new start in new more upmarket formats or whatever-no specific for just msg, that anything might be possible. Tourists are flocking back en-masse, happily not those mainland Chinese. There may even be a creative ghost who starts some hitherto never thought of format-after all these gays are geek-crazy and always want the latest gadgets &etc, nah?
But frankly-now rereading this long thread a new my ambitions to visit after so many yrs PTy again-and Jomtien, are dwindling. Had some hopes on nice&horny Khmer guys, but those are here also a plenty-and my own score re real Laos guys has also suddenly skyrocketed this time. Often quite different from the ´Lao=Isany´ guys one used to hit anywhere. Strong, long lasting, sometimes not able to understand as they only speak their own variety of imi-Thai. THey all take it for granted and evident that just a HJ as HE will not do and go for the whole way. And nearly half go out of their ways in thanking for the usual grey note-as the MIN tip in the listings say 7/800. Much more as just that polite wai. One even suggested he would do 25% extra for that-but then we were clothed again already after.
Not that this means paradise has returned, but it does seem a new wave and new energy after all these long monthes of nothing and waiting are over.
Now that the high season is with us have the Ambiance and Copa massages re opened. I used to use both frequently but as I've been in Bangkok for business in the last 4-5 weeks I haven't been able to check the traps.
mason...i very much doubt that Thailand will run out of "massage/gogos/MBs soon....there is still a huge pool of rural guys desperate to get away from working in the fields for a pittance under the hot tropical sun....not to mention neighbouring countries who r even less developed...and if as the economists predict the world does go into a global recession places like BKk and Pattaya will be flooded with pre-lubed bubble butted straight boys eager to please...
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I rather agree with Mason in this one.
The huge pool of Thai rural guys you describe was certainly the situation when I first visited Pattaya in 2001, as a gay sex tourist, and I took full advantage.
Thailand has developed a lot since then and the boys have other opportunities. The number wanting to dance nearly naked in gogos and give us pleasure in bed is much reduced.
I do agree that the situation has been partially corrected by an influx of boys from Cambodia and Laos and there would be many more if travel for them and those from Myanmar was made easier.
r u sure u r not seeing this through rose tinted glasses...or possibly misinterpreting the situation...the bars may be quieter but what about the apps...last time i was in pattaya was 4 months before covid struck the apps were super busy...in fact all my "hires" were via grindr...i still visited the bars and enjoyed the overpriced beers as i enjoy the shows and watching the gogos shaking their butts on stage...but all my fun was thanks to the apps...
IF you really mean Thai boys only-as I have just arrived back at Swampy today-then you may be out of date-the nr of such guys is dwindling very much and also many other low-paid simple jobs that used to rely on them have hard times getting staff. Around here in BKK in fact most such jobs are done by foreign workers-Burmese, KHmer and the odd Lao. A bit strange/convincing also seems to be that the dozens of new m2m msg shops in Sapan kwai (_K.man, KK, KB etc.) hardly have any THai on the performing jobs-all are again foreign workers, here notably loads of real Lao (not those Isany) and they also give me a bit other impression as those Isany. Many told me they lost their jobs in Laos in HTL etc. due to the covid-isolation and rampant high inflation, so wait&see what this turns out when toursim also picks up again there and the HTLs get reopened etc.
What also astounded me this time was the very low nr of still coming young Japanese (bekpekkers with blue hair etc) or even the nr of old-style bekpekkers: hardly a bekpek to be seen coming off the belt in Swampy-whereas in the past it was near half of all luggages. Yes, I also have a roll-on wheels now.
So do I-as above. From the 3 foreigners myself prefer the Burmese in general (though I hardly had any real Lao till last visit in those Sapan Kwai shops) and with some knowledge it is not that hard to sneek over border from there-for many, many years I was befriended with many of those Karyen ´hilltribers´ who take it for natural and have always done going over the border&back. So I heard many a hilarious or ingenious story about that. IT also kind of glues on: once 1 - 2 do a good job somehwere they tend to attract more and more (family, same village etc.) so you get pockets of them in some places-a bit like the many KHmer in Pattaya
yes lack of labour seems to be a worldwide issue...difficult to understand where everyone dissapeared to...maybe some governments have been too generous with pandemic subsidies....anyway I'm no expert, last time i was in Thailand was just before covid ...am planning on a trip within the next 4 months...but to be honest i cant even tell where they are from...dont really converse with the MBs....all i care is that fresh perky butt is available...
I barfined a boy from Jomtien massage the other day, or rather a ladyboy barfined him for me. I owed the ladyboy a favor, and let her barfine a boy. Unfortunately, his dick was too big for me. Not so much in length, but in girth, it would have killed me.
He was eager to please, though.
amateur....
Anyone aware of establishments which offer "Because" or "B-course" body massage services in Pattaya, Jomtien or nearby?
Thanks, aky
maump...u should try north england...those scally boys have big knobs
I had to look these definitions up in Google - as I never heard about these 2 types of massages:
https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/read...-30-years-ago/
"the Sakura on New Petchburi Road, which pioneered the "B-course" or "because" massage with air mattress
and full body massage."
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ighlight=Oscar
"Other places to consider for B Course (body slide)"
In all my massages with happy ending (estimated 30-50 over the years, always 1 hour oil massage), one boy offered me body-to-body but I found it underwhelming. Hands in the right place is much better. No wet room needed, he just lay on top of me and slid around with oil in between.
thaiophilus: "Start with Helios (Day-Night 2) and Scandic (Boyztown). They have offered this service in the past but I don't have current information..."
It looks like Helios Men Club has a solid reputation and I will be checking them out.
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christianpfc: "...one boy offered me body-to-body but I found it underwhelming. Hands in the right place is much better. No wet room needed, he just lay on top of me and slid around with oil in between."
I regard a B-course massage as 'something special' in that it differs considerably from mainstream massage using creams & oils. Finding a masseur who is skilled in B-course massage requires sometimes considerable effort.
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Thanks to all who responded.