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Re: Omicron - Are we going back to square one?
1. The announcement seems to be stopping new applications for test and go only.
2. Any further domestic restrictions would seem premature before Omicron gets going. By the time it does take hold, there ought to be better data from other countries on severity. Countries like the UK and Denmark have kindly volunteered to test the virus.
3 I gather those who had 2 doses of Astra Zeneca can get boosters at 3 months now, according to some very sensible policy. No check for proof of residency either, but take up from bar boys is mixed.
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According to Pattaya's Mayor there are no lockdowns, wide-scale business closures or beach closures in the plans going forward:
https://thepattayanews.com/2022/01/0...ovid-19-cases/
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Just a total alcohol ban, coming soon, near you.......
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Coronavirus cases in Pattaya are exploding, with more than 700 reported in just the past three days.
With all these rapid antigen tests becoming in-vogue, why am I not surprised.
Test more = more positive cases of Omicron .
Test less = fewer positive cases of Omicron.
Solution = Stop testing - Open all businesses - Enjoy life. If you get sick for a week - deal with it.
https://www.pattayamail.com/latestne...pattaya-385245
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Dodger
Coronavirus cases in Pattaya are exploding, with more than 700 reported in just the past three days.
With all these rapid antigen tests becoming in-vogue, why am I not surprised.
Test more = more positive cases of Omicron .
Test less = fewer positive cases of Omicron.
Solution = Stop testing - Open all businesses - Enjoy life. If you get sick for a week - deal with it.
https://www.pattayamail.com/latestne...pattaya-385245
So what’s good for the goose is good for the gander?
Re: Rapid Antigen Tests Required for Restaurants in Chonburi
To each his own.
The approach that Jai and I are taking is very simple; We're avoiding going to restaurants, or anywhere else for that fact, where a lot of people are gathering until this wave of Omicron has passed. If by chance either of us starts to feel ill we will take test(s) ourselves at home. If either of us were to test positive we would immediately self-quarantine to keep others safe. We wouldn't report this to anyone.
End of story.
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Manforallseasons
So what’s good for the goose is good for the gander?
He's busy documenting the ISO-9000-compliant process
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Dodger
Coronavirus cases in Pattaya are exploding, with more than 700 reported in just the past three days.
With all these rapid antigen tests becoming in-vogue, why am I not surprised.
Test more = more positive cases of Omicron .
Test less = fewer positive cases of Omicron.
Solution = Stop testing - Open all businesses - Enjoy life. If you get sick for a week - deal with it.
The number of test results gathered must be heavily influenced by the incentives and disincentives to take a test. If there is any perception of excessive penalties for failing, people will avoid tests.
This may be offset by compulsion to test for workers in certain sectors. Or perhaps a minority of customers who are actually prepared to test.
So after we adjust for people dodging tests, I would imagine the actual number of cases is far higher.
I also note the article referred to over 20% of cases being linked to bars.
So that means that almost 80% of cases are linked to establishments other than bars ? Some analysis of the other 80% would be useful.
Also, if I understand, bars and other establishments selling alcohol are just about the only major customer service business required to test customers, but they still only account for just over 20% of infections ?
Maybe the prohibition supporters in the guvernor's office need to rethink their position.
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Manforallseasons
So what’s good for the goose is good for the gander?
Every goose and gander out there has to decide for themselves what they need to do to stay safe, and at the same time continue enjoying life.
My opinion is that Omicron is so contagious that everyone will get it at some point. It's so mild (as compared to covid) that a person probably won't even know if it's a common cold, flu bug, or Omicron, that they have. Many have it now and don't even know it, while others are just waiting in queue,
Going to bars, restaurants, or any other public venue during this process is a personal decision left up to each goose and gander out there. One would hope that those in a high risk category would avoid these public venues all together until this thing blows over.
It's also my opinion that forcing people to take these rapid tests will do nothing more than create a ton of worthless data...only valuable to those who want to use these data to push their own personal political agendas.
Goji cited a perfect example: The data they're stockpiling from these tests shows that 80% of the people who test positive (they think) did not catch the virus in a bar or restaurant, although, they're attempting to use the very same data to close bars and restaurants that sell alcohol. They're not focusing on containing Omicron, because they already know it can't be contained. They're taking advantage of the situation (leveraging) to push another agenda. That's just the way I see it.
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"They're not focusing on containing Omicron, because they already know it can't be contained."
Someone should tell the Chinese government.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-peo...downs-12509576
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Today china posted 175 new cases of Covid....damn...A billion plus population and ONLY 175 cases...One would not believe anything coming out of this country...HOPE they don't begin going to Thailand anytime soon....
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What the latest Science says about how and when the Omicron surge will end.
Interesting article which pretty much sums up the fact that Omicron symptoms are far less severe than Delta, coupled with the fact that many people are vaccinated now, and herd immunity is being accomplished. People still have to use common sense when visiting public venues - but are these mandatory mass rapid tests that businesses are now required to perform really paying dividends?
https://www.aol.com/news/latest-scie...100033400.html
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The article mentions immunity, but not herd immunity. Whilst individuals will be resistant to severe disease, proper herd immunity will not happen when people have low immunity to mild or asymptomatic infection.
Also, regarding the ending of the Omicron wave, well I think a lot depends on how long particular governments want to string it out for.
The Junta in Thailand seem intent on imposing further restrictions, despite the far lower severity and widespread availability of vaccines. If the restrictions have any effect, they will also prolong this wave.
Meanwhile, in England, the government is trying to proceed with hardly any restrictions. Which seems to be correct for an era with widespread resistance to COVID and a much less severe variant. The wave will be over far more quickly.
The Junta don't seem to be very good at timing. They crippled the tourist industry for months with restrictions, even though Thailand had the same delta variant as elsewhere.
Then they opened Test and Go in November. They kept that running for just long enough to rapidly import the Omicron variant, which also started in November. Then once all the horses had bolted, they slammed the stable door shut.
So Test and Go is suspended, but I have no idea why, as Omicron is already spreading in Thailand. More enlightened and accountable governments are already abandoning Omicron entry restrictions.
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Au contraire...
Président Macron is completely riled up by the Omicron variant making him want to pee on his unvaccinated fellow citizens,evidently a clear case of paranoia.
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I'm with Macron on this. I do find it funny (peculiar) that OmniCromwell prevents fun and fornication but doesnt stop 200000 Russian troops massing near Ukraine or going into Kazakhstan for 'peacekeeping'.
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Perhaps the Russians have in store a superior vaccine than those produced by the manufacturers affected by the mass formation psychosis currently manifesting in the general population of the advanced northern countries.
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Blueskytoday
Today china posted 175 new cases of Covid....damn...A billion plus population and ONLY 175 cases...One would not believe anything coming out of this country...HOPE they don't begin going to Thailand anytime soon....
A friend of mine, with business in China, told me that reports from his colleagues there say that the situation is much worse than official reports. The words 'out of control' were used. This will never be officially reported.
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Interesting infographic based on early studies of omicron.Attachment 12088
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Keith
A friend of mine, with business in China, told me that reports from his colleagues there say that the situation is much worse than official reports. The words 'out of control' were used. This will never be officially reported.
Better them than us. And by "us" I mean the rest of the planet.
I feel much better knowing that the Chinese are not allowed to leave their country under the governments "Zero Covid" program. It would have been even better if they did this 2 years ago.
Asa Butterfield...if you're reading this, I hope you can find a way to escape.
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Keith
A friend of mine, with business in China, told me that reports from his colleagues there say that the situation is much worse than official reports. The words 'out of control' were used. This will never be officially reported.
Yes, China has indeed given the world a gift that keeps on giving.
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I can leave anytime Dodger but I can't come back.
MFAS wrote.
"Yes, China has indeed given the world a gift that keeps on giving."
Spring Festival is nearly upon us when hundreds of millions of Chinese travel all over the country. Those travelling tend to be those who live in crowded accommodation such as students and migrant workers. Let's see what happens.
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arsenal
Let's see what happens.
What could possibly go wrong?
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a447
What could possibly go wrong?
Thanks...you just made me spill a cup of hot coffee on my lap...just too funny!
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arsenal
I can leave anytime Dodger but I can't come back.
The solution is staring you right in the face.
How do you say "Goodbye and Good Riddance" in Chinese?
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I don't know but it almost certainly involves hacking and spitting. *
* If it's to a beautiful Chinese boy then it includes a long hug and generous fondling of his lovely bottom. Obviously.
Dodger. I would also point out that I am in fact very content, I might even say happy in life whereas few of the Thailand based members give the same impression. Yourself being the rare exception..
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arsenal
Dodger. I would also point out that I am in fact very content, I might even say happy in life whereas few of the Thailand based members give the same impression. Yourself being the rare exception..
I didn't mean to insinuate you weren't happy living in China at all. You sound happy and content and that's all that matters.
Actually the vast majority of expats I know over here are still happy with life in Thailand in general, but seem to complain a lot which I guess is understandable. The reason you don't hear me complaining a lot - is probably because I don't have anything to complain about.
I've been saying as long as I can remember that home is what you make it.