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Yes, I do have a new passport without a single stamp in it. Howeever, I don't have a new name or date of birth. They will be able to call me up in the computer without issue.
It'll be fine. They're not going to throw me in prison. If they do, I'll just go out of my way and throw a tantrum within the media about how inhumanely the Thai government treats blind Canadian citizens due to a simple overstay.
Anyway, guess I have a house in Vientiane now, so that's cool. 20,000 baht/month I've been told, so that's fine. I don't really care. As long as it has a large gated yard for the dogs, and I have my own bedroom with A/C, I'm happy. We'll worry about a more permanent, long-term home later once I'm there and we have time to scout out the city together.
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At least matt, you will have your imagination left in tact!:devilsh:
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Originally Posted by
cdnmatt
Yes, I do have a new passport without a single stamp in it. Howeever, I don't have a new name or date of birth. They will be able to call me up in the computer without issue.
It'll be fine. They're not going to throw me in prison. If they do, I'll just go out of my way and throw a tantrum within the media about how inhumanely the Thai government treats blind Canadian citizens due to a simple overstay.
Anyway, guess I have a house in Vientiane now, so that's cool. 20,000 baht/month I've been told, so that's fine. I don't really care. As long as it has a large gated yard for the dogs, and I have my own bedroom with A/C, I'm happy. We'll worry about a more permanent, long-term home later once I'm there and we have time to scout out the city together.
"a simple overstay" ? You by your own admission are on an extensive overstay. A simple overstay is a few days, an overstay of years is not a simple overstay. But keep throwing a tantrum, it won't really help you at all. You will not be the first and you will not be the last that sees the inside of the IDC, until such time that you can be deported to Canada in your case. By the way, there is no such thing as a one year prison sentence for overstaying, there is nothing in the law that claims that, the punishment if you will is 500 baht a day, up to a 20K maximum and blacklisting + deportation. The only way to avoid deportation in your case, is either going to the airport (the surest way) or trying to cross at Nong Khai, as I already said, the last option is full of uncertanties.
But keep ignoring the advice, you seem to know it better.
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StevieWonders
Don't you have a new passport? What happens if you turn up at the border with just the new passport and play dumb about the lack of an entry stamp?
They can match his entry/exit history by matching on name, DOB, and country, so that will not work.
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justaguy
here is nothing in the law that claims that, the punishment if you will is 500 baht a day, up to a 20K maximum and blacklisting + deportation. The only way to avoid deportation in your case, is either going to the airport (the surest way) or trying to cross at Nong Khai, as I already said, the last option is full of uncertanties.
But keep ignoring the advice, you seem to know it better.
Read the new laws again. If I get checked by immigration before voluntarily turning myself in (ie. getting to that Nong Khai border), then yes, it's one year in Thai prison. If I hit a checkpoint on the way to Nong Khai, then I'm fucked. That's why I'm trying to take care of it here locally first.
And don't be stupid, this is hardly an egregious offense. Yeah, if I was selling drugs, or fucking children or something, then sure, throw me in jail. An overstay though? Hardly a big deal. The only reason those laws are currently in place is because there's a xenophobic general who conducted a military coup, appointed himself as Prime Minister, as has yet to hold elections.
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The unfortunate thing Matt is that you don't get to decide what is or is not an egregious offence, nor is there often any logical basis for how the justiciary sees things - that's why in the UK for example a bank robber usually gets a longer sentence than a rapist or even a murderer
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cdnmatt
Read the new laws again. If I get checked by immigration before voluntarily turning myself in (ie. getting to that Nong Khai border), then yes, it's one year in Thai prison. If I hit a checkpoint on the way to Nong Khai, then I'm fucked. That's why I'm trying to take care of it here locally first.
And don't be stupid, this is hardly an egregious offense. Yeah, if I was selling drugs, or fucking children or something, then sure, throw me in jail. An overstay though? Hardly a big deal. The only reason those laws are currently in place is because there's a xenophobic general who conducted a military coup, appointed himself as Prime Minister, as has yet to hold elections.
Can you please quote the relevant Thai law, that imposes a one year prison sentence on overstay ?, I have never heard about that one, anywhere. Until such time that you can quote the relevant law I call utter and utter bullshit.
I will just quote the relevant state agency and note how it nowhere talks about a one year prison sentence:
https://www.immigration.go.th/read?c...71e02b9c9be114
How am I being stupid, I merely pointed out to you what the consequences of your overstay could be, not that I agree with them, I personally find the Thai way to hung up over these minor issues. But what you or I think does not really matter, the law is the law, and will be applied, even to blind people.
And again, if you choose to take care of it locally, there is a very, very high chance, you are going to be deported. Only if you are extremely Lucky, they will tell you to run for the airport, or go to Bangkok, in the worst case, you end up in the IDC on your way to Canada, not Lao PDR. You have now sufficiently been warned.
You can't fix stupid. But do keep us posted, dying to find out how you end up :)
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I tried to Google it, but can't find that law anymore. Maybe it's changed, but I'm sure it was in there when the new black listing laws came out. Nonetheless, without question it's better I surrender myself to immigration instead of being caught by them beforehand.
I'm hoping to get a 72 hour VISA by local immigration, giving me safe passage across that Nong Khai border. Then if I get really lucky, what I'd really like is find an immigration officer at the local office here who has a pickup truck, and wants to make some extra money for a day road trip to Vientiane. Helps make me feel safe, plus those dog carrier cages weight about 30kg, and so do the dogs. That's two cages @ ~60kg each, so having someone willing to drive us all the way through the border to the new house in Vientiane would definitely be an added bonus, as walking those cages through immigration walk-in lines will be a pain.
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cdnmatt
" ... It'll be fine. They're not going to throw me in prison. If they do, I'll just go out of my way and throw a tantrum within the media about how inhumanely the Thai government treats blind Canadian citizens due to a simple overstay... "
God, you are such a massive simpleton. The tantrum will of course get you precisely nowhere ... they will sit and laugh at you. And rightly so.
Actually, this sentence from Justaguy sums you up to a tee:
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" ... You can't fix stupid. But do keep us posted, dying to find out how you end up ... "
I think I've said this more than once ... i.e. I don't believe anything you say/write. Yep, the Board troll rolls on.
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You are just making this all up. Your last remark clearly gave that away :)
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It all reminds me of the Von Trapps trying to cross the border into Switzerland in The Sound of Music
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Smiles
God, you are such a massive simpleton. The tantrum will of course get you precisely nowhere ... they will sit and laugh at you. And rightly so.
Actually, this sentence from Justaguy sums you up to a tee:
I think I've said this more than once ... i.e. I don't believe anything you say/write. Yep, the Board troll rolls on.
Yeah, after his last post, I am also convinced he is making all of this up. At least he did hook for a short while.
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Whether real or a troll, I think it's quite obvious that this is identical to all of Matt's other threads: (1) Start by asking for advice, even though he has at least subconsciously already reached a decision on how to handle the matter. (2) Consider (not ignore) the advice received from forum members and explain at length why each suggestion does not apply to his situation. This continues regardless of how many suggestions are made, how much advice is given.
What Matt wants is just to have people join in, express their thoughts, so that he doesn't feel quite so isolated. Or if he’s a troll, he just wants to see how much he reels in. We have yet to see him agree with any poster or attempt to carry out any suggestion that has ever been offered. C'est notre Matt.
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Well to be fair Matt was quite prepared (on the face of it) to meet Joe - but Joe cancelled not once, but twice.
Whether the meeting would ever have taken place is a matter for speculation but we can't say for certain that it wouldn't have.
Either way it doesn't matter to me - there is very little written on here that I take seriously, and I post accordingly
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bobsaigon2
Whether real or a troll, I think it's quite obvious that this is identical to all of Matt's other threads: (1) Start by asking for advice, even though he has at least subconsciously already reached a decision on how to handle the matter. (2) Consider (not ignore) the advice received from forum members and explain at length why each suggestion does not apply to his situation. This continues regardless of how many suggestions are made, how much advice is given.
What Matt wants is just to have people join in, express their thoughts, so that he doesn't feel quite so isolated. Or if he’s a troll, he just wants to see how much he reels in. We have yet to see him agree with any poster or attempt to carry out any suggestion that has ever been offered. C'est notre Matt.
Yeah, I am sure you are quite right. I remember the staying in the village thread, where he suggested to sleep in some tent, instead of simply sleeping with the family. He reeled me in on that threat, his idea was ludicrous, wondering if he still considers doing that :)
In any case, if he does try to settle the matter of his extensive overstay, he almost certainly will go back to Canada. Of course nothing is stopping him from reaching Lao PDR from canada, if only at a slightly higher cost :)
If I was him, I would not post my visa status on a public forum, unless my visa status was a valid one, that's why I think his whole overstay story is utter bollocks, how could someone be this stupid.
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I am sure ISOC reads this forum. Besides, how hard is it not to notice a blind person with a Canadian passport if such a person shows up at the border or airport control?
Still don't know how he reads this forum. Does he have a some software that reads the comments?
Anyway, something entertaining to pass my time
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Considering some of the things people boast about doing on here, Matt's overstay is small beer for the authorities whether they be the ISOC or the FBI
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Smiles wrote.
"The tantrum will of course get you precisely nowhere ... they will sit and laugh at you. And rightly so."
Doesn't stop the anti board management sub-grpup here.
:yahoo_mini:
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Bob has summed up Matt's modus operandi perfectly.
Yet Matt still manages to rope people in, albeit in fewer numbers than before he went "blind."
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If I was him, I would not post my visa status on a public forum, unless my visa status was a valid one, that's why I think his whole overstay story is utter bollocks, how could someone be this stupid.
And he also posted his photo here. At least he told us ii was him. Yet it was of a clean-shaven guy, despite him telling us that Leo is always on to him about shaving off his beard and moustache, which he refuses to do.
A lonely retiree with too much time on his hands, perhaps?
Hardly a crime.
If only he'd employ a ghost writer!
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Actually it says more about the people who give it shit than it does about Matt
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Matt has told us several times he is 36. Let’s work backwards...
He “says” he has been in Thailand 10+ years
He “says” he had a Hungarian hubby in Canada.
Presumably he had some time alone after leaving school/ university
Doesn’t quite add up...
You are right 447 he needs a writer to line up all his “stories”...
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gerefan2
Matt has told us several times he is 36. Let’s work backwards...
He “says” he has been in Thailand 10+ years
He “says” he had a Hungarian hubby in Canada.
Presumably he had some time alone after leaving school/ university
Doesn’t quite add up...
You are right 447 he needs a writer to line up all his “stories”...
I don't even have grade 10, let alone a high school or university diploma. I taught myself everything I know. :)
I started my first online business back when I was 16 actually. I was pissed off that my parents moved me to Texas, and since I couldn't get a job due to being Canadian, I figured out how to write software and make money on my own so I could go back to Canada. Started my first serious company when I was 19, and it's actually still humming along to this day. Sold it back in Oct 2005, but it's still online and seems to be going strong.
I was first married back in June, 2005. So that would make me what? 23 at the time I guess.
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That all sounds very admirable Matt but why go to a backwater like Thailand if you were such a success in your home country?
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Why are you so sure ISOC reads this forum Davey612??
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cdnmatt
I taught myself everything I know. :)
It shows.
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I don't know, instead of providing any rational explanations that I'll surely get blasted for and labelled a liar, I'll just leave this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27eWdPoutjo
That guy cracks me up. Not quite as much as Steven Colbert, but pretty close.
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sglad
It shows.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
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cdnmatt
I don't know, instead of providing any rational explanations that I'll surely get blasted for and labelled a liar, I'll just leave this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27eWdPoutjo
That guy cracks me up. Not quite as much as Steven Colbert, but pretty close.
You are labelled a liar because your explanations are anything but rational. I would have thought you are still wearing diapers.
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... I would have thought you are still wearing diapers.
Careful now, there may be some SGT members into that
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Careful now, there may be some SGT members into that
Oh, well in that case, let me rephrase: some of his thoughts and ideas seem to come from a 15 year old.
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justaguy
Oh, well in that case, let me rephrase: some of his thoughts and ideas seem to come from a 15 year old.
Or perhaps a 65 year old.
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justaguy
Oh, well in that case, let me rephrase: some of his thoughts and ideas seem to come from a 15 year old.
Oh dear you've repeated the error
:D
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justaguy
You are labelled a liar because your explanations are anything but rational. I would have thought you are still wearing diapers.
Ok, what about my explanations? I'm 100% certain that back in 2014 when those black listing laws were put into effect, there were two sets of rules depending on whether you surrendered to immigration or were caught illegally residing here. The latter came with a 1 year imprisonment term. Maybe they've reviewed the laws since then due to international uproar, but I'm sure that's what it was when those laws were first enacted.
What else is so irrational?
What's irrational is me having to explain to Leo why it's a bad idea to let hotel recepption or motorcycle rental shops keep your passport. Come on dude, that's travelling 101.
Then also having to argue with him that we're not paying 6 or 12 months up front for a house. He says it's because things are differently in Laos, I tell him to fuck off because I've rented probably 30 houses in various countries in the world, and nobody in their right mind ever pays 6 or 12 months rent up front. He told me that's just how it is in Laos, I told him to go buy some nice business clothes, and don't be shy.\
See what happens.
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cdnmatt
Ok, what about my explanations? I'm 100% certain that back in 2014 when those black listing laws were put into effect, there were two sets of rules depending on whether you surrendered to immigration or were caught illegally residing here. The latter came with a 1 year imprisonment term. Maybe they've reviewed the laws since then due to international uproar, but I'm sure that's what it was when those laws were first enacted.
What else is so irrational?
What's irrational is me having to explain to Leo why it's a bad idea to let hotel recepption or motorcycle rental shops keep your passport. Come on dude, that's travelling 101.
Then also having to argue with him that we're not paying 6 or 12 months up front for a house. He says it's because things are differently in Laos, I tell him to fuck off because I've rented probably 30 houses in various countries in the world, and nobody in their right mind ever pays 6 or 12 months rent up front. He told me that's just how it is in Laos, I told him to go buy some nice business clothes, and don't be shy.\
See what happens.
Oh please, there was NEVER any mention of a one year prison sentence. The rules weren't put into place in 2014, but only in 2016. You are confused, utterly confused.
I do believe Leo is not being entirely honest with you, but I am a bit shy to even go there, before we know it, it will lead to a whole new saga.
But do continue, it IS kind of amusing.
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Matt, It may well be that Laos is one of several countries where landlords demand a year's rent in advance. Recently read of one of Saudi Arabia's neighboring countries where this is the custom.
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The option of paying rent by the year is fairly common in Thailand ... certainly in my neighbourhood here in Hua Hin. The discount one gets can be substantial and Thai absentee owners love it . . . and I love it, only having to touch base with them once a year.
I would guess that in Lao the same goes, though granted, most such rental styles are used by foreigners.
Your sophmoric "fuck this and fuck that" responses whenever things you don't like raise their ugly heads is just one more example of your childlike naivete. You buster, are one angry dude, usually found sloshing down numerous pints of cheap beer in godawful bars on Hastings St.
Is that the same nasty manner in which you treat your so-called 'husband'? For instance: " ... I tell him to fuck off ... "
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we know it, it will lead to a whole new saga.
Have no fear Justaguy, this is only saga #327. More to come very soon.
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TIME OUT
Oh dear it seems I'm the only one who continues to give Matt the benefit of the doubt.
Anyhoo, and without any desire whatsoever to get involved in what will surely come to be know as the Great SGT Immigration Spat of 2018, I simply offer this from ThaiVisa, which I must point out was posted in 2010 and almost certainly will be out of date but the dispute is over Matt's historical recollection after all so I thought it apposite
SUMMARY OF CURRENT OVERSTAY REGULATIONS IN THAILAND:
Under the Immigration Act 2522 overstay is punishable by a jail term of 2 years and/or a fine of maximum 20,000 baht.
"Section 81 : Any alien who stay in the Kingdom without permission or with
permission expired or revoked shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding
two years or a fine not exceeding 20,000 Baht or both."
Immigration Act download: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/post-a...ct-EN.pdf.html
TIME IN
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Matt is talking about the blacklisting, which came into effect in 2016:
https://www.stickboybkk.com/news/imm...-bad-guys-out/
no-one is jailed for overstay in Thailand, they are put into the IDC and are released the minute they can produce a ticket out of the country, to the country of origin. Hence the advice to have a ticket to Canada ready once he will try to sort things out locally
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Here endeth my interest
Probably