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Sorry for the typos above. I'm standing on the dock at the waters edge in Pattaya .......no no I'm bored with Pattaya, make that Phuket as the sea's are much nicer round there, on my new gold iphone with 16 go go boys with me as we're a'll just about to head out on my new 60ft yacht for drinks and lots of hot sex - oh and I've my two dogs with me too, tinkle and winkle - see they MUST be real cause they have NAMES and EVERYTHING !
Hey this bullshit thing seems like a great lark, not a bit of wonder some people are at it so much of late on here eh ! :-)
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Originally Posted by Nirish guy
This thread, whilst verging slightly towards creepy is fucking hilarious all the same, I'm thinking of sending out for popcorn ! But hey Whitemouse, just for the record and seriously, you're so full of shit your eyes are brown and it's quite obvious that you've bigger wrecking agenda than a wrecking ball trying to wreck a thing in a wrecking yards outdoor wrecking shop, but still I'm sure you'll carry on until suck times as someone decides you won't - and then sure we'll see you again under one of your next interesting Aliases no doubt :-) Right, now, where's that popcorn...........
What am I wrecking?
I wanted to meet a fellow Canadian, guy of my age, who lives in Thailand, just like I. What is strange about that?
When you say Im full of shit, you mean that Im lying, yes? Well, Im not lying. Everything I say about myself is true, profile pic is me, and Whitemouse is my only nick at Sawadee, I use same nick at ThaiVisa.
I have not posted much, true. I only registered here couple of years ago, and for not wanting to be a member of Sawadee had reasons, they way it was run.. Posts dissapearing, posts edited in Purple font, it was not a board of adult males. So I registered when things here changed.
But I can understand that many here don't believe a word I say. I also read some Sawadee members posts, and Im now convinced the storirs are fiction.
The thing is, not everyone here is living fantasy life. But you are so used to lying here, you don't recognize honesty, even when it stares at you.
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As NIrish says, it's all highly entertaining - even allowing for the fact that some posters are clearly as mad as a wet hen.
What worries me though is that with Whitemouse having posted a pic of his passport lying on a local paper with the date showing - he has given my own stalker (the demented fuckwit MiniMee) an excuse to demand the same from me on my next visit :))
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Originally Posted by whitemouse
' ... What am I wrecking? I wanted to meet a fellow Canadian, guy of my age, who lives in Thailand, just like I. What is strange about that? ... '
Nice try there buster ... but glaringly transparent hogwash.
What really happened was that, for several pages, you begged on bended knee for Cndmatt to meet up with you in Khon kaen. After this barrage of rather unseemly pleadings Cndmatt replied with a very precise 'NO'.
The 'fuck off' moment from Cndmatt came when you started a long rambling rant about his motives in denying your request.
After that, you added a few more long posts, each one becoming more and more demented than the next ... the bottom line of which were accusations that Cndmatt was a complete fraud, was not living in Khon Kaen but in Canada, that none of the stories he's posted on Sawatdee were true, that he probably has multiple handles, that he might well be manipulating the Admin [i.e. 'Surfcrest' ... not 'Seacrest'] in regards to the board's overall security, that other members of the board should be very very wary of Cndmatt.
You specifically accused him of deceiving all the members of Sawatdee for years.
And after all that paranoid garbage you demanded that Cndmatt prove a blatant negative [always a logical impossibility]; i.e. to prove you wrong on every count.
Any wonder you get told to fuck off. Something tells me [remember that little red light] that over the years dozens - perhaps hundreds - of your acquaintances have told you to do exactly the same thing.
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Originally Posted by whitemouse
What is strange about that?
Nothing. It's how obsessed you became over meeting me. You wouldn't stop replying to the thread with messages that should have been PMs, so I dropped a quick reply and said "No", then you went bat shit insane on us all. I can't really get mad, because it's not your fault your crazy, but yeah... we're not meeting.
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Originally Posted by cdnmatt
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Originally Posted by whitemouse
What is strange about that?
Nothing. It's how obsessed you became over meeting me. You wouldn't stop replying to the thread with messages that should have been PMs, so I dropped a quick reply and said "No", then you went bat shit insane on us all. I can't really get mad, because it's not your fault your crazy, but yeah... we're not meeting.
Yes, and please please [begging, pleading, yes, no,] prove without question that I am not you - heaven forbid - and that you are not me - you should be so lucky.
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I think it's perfectly acceptable NOT to want to meet any fellow forum members. I've met precisely one member of this forum, and I'd be hard pressed to name a few others I'd be interested to meet. It's an online "community", some just don't want to take it any further. Big deal.
For what little it's worth, I do believe that cdnmatt is real and lives in Thailand. That doesn't mean that I believe all that he has ever reported here, but so what.
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well whitemouse is not lying about his forum name on thaivisa, it is the same , and same picture. That was my little stalking for today.
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Originally Posted by loke
well whitemouse is not lying about his forum name on thaivisa, it is the same , and same picture. That was my little stalking for today.
I don't think anyone in this thread has accused Whitemouse of lying.
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Ok, I'm 95% certain it's you now, because you don't know Thai at all. I'll give you credit for taste, because the photos are quite good.
FUCK OFF.
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Originally Posted by Surfcrest
This whole exchange sound a lot like "stalking" and so I'll now have to incorporate a "no stalking" clause in the Rules.
I wouldn't call it stalking, anyway others made much greater efforts to expose inaccuracies and inconsistencies in latintop's posts. If there is a need for a new rule, it should be "works of fictions have to be labelled as such". The question if any harm is done when people believe cdnmatt's stories is rather philosophical, however if some tries to emulate latintop's fantasies, he might get into serious trouble.
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I think it's perfectly acceptable NOT to want to meet any fellow forum members.
It is, but you don't invite all and sundry to come and visit you, and then renege, disappear or cannot be contacted. Similar recent experience with Smiles. It's surprising how the three Canadians (Surfcrest, Smiles, cdnmatt) on this board stick together. Is it a conspiracy?
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Originally Posted by Christian
... It is, but you don't invite all and sundry to come and visit you, and then renege, disappear or cannot be contacted. Similar recent experience with Smiles. It's surprising how the three Canadians (Surfcrest, Smiles, cdnmatt) on this board stick together...
I will not, and cannot, comment on your experiences with Surfcrest or Cndmatt on this meeting-up thing (I have never met either of them in person) but what you write about me above is an utter lie.
I have a PM from you stating that you would be coming to Hua Hin (this was a month or so ago) and would like to meet up with me. I replied in a PM that I had absolutely no interest in meeting up with you ... basically a very specific 'no!' wouldn't you agree?
(After your post above I feel doubly justified).
If you wish I will be happy to quote the PM in question in this thread. No problem.
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I have a PM from 7 Oct 2013 (admittedly, this is a while ago; if I did deeper I will probably find even earlier messages) where I asked if we could meet if I come to Hua Hin and your answer was confirmative. (For various reasons, it took me indeed until Oct 2015 for my first stay in Hua Hin, the PM you are referring to, which indeed rejects the idea of meeting.)
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Originally Posted by christianpfc
I have a PM from 7 Oct 2013 (admittedly, this is a while ago; if I did deeper I will probably find even earlier messages) where I asked if we could meet if I come to Hua Hin and your answer was confirmative. (For various reasons, it took me indeed until Oct 2015 for my first stay in Hua Hin, the PM you are referring to, which indeed rejects the idea of meeting.)
Then show the PM, asshole. [And trust me, I don't use that adjective lightly regarding any member of Sawatdee.]
You are still, in my books, a liar.
Any PM's between myself and yourself in year 2013 are in regards to two and two topics only ... i.e. a few about Neal and his letting go of Sawatdee and selling the board to Surfcrest and a second couple of PM's regarding where to find excellent khao mun gai in Bangkok.
There are no PM's regarding the subject of meeting up with you, whether it is in 2013 and up until 2015. Frankly, in 2013 I never gave you a thought one way or the other, and have not until now, and will continue to ignore you completely until hell freezes over.
This is demonstrably why a Flaming Room is a great idea.
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Originally Posted by cdnmatt
Ok, I'm 95% certain it's you now, because you don't know Thai at all. I'll give you credit for taste, because the photos are quite good.
FUCK OFF.
Matt, I don't know Thai, it's true, I have no interest in studying it, because I have no real need to know Thai, in BKK and Pattaya I get by using English. Yes, I'm missing out on some things, but if I decided to take on fourth language, it would be Spanish. Spanish is very useful in very many places.
But you do, right? You have mentioned that online you are often mistaken for Thai by Thai men, so if I decide to study it, would you consider giving me lessons, please? But I suspect I know your answer by now, it will be another FO from you lol.
It is just puzzling to me, how can you be mistaken for Thai on Hornet and Grinder by Thai men, you have your pics on your profile, are you Asian maybe?
There are very few Hornet users with just a single photo, so I imagine you have few pics, like everyone.. Yet you are still mistaken for Thai by people who are looking to hook up with you. It's just very unusual.
I have never been mistaken for Thai on dating apps, and PlanetRomeo, never been asked that question, not even once! It is always Hi, Hey, Hello, How Are You, What Are U Looking For, or variation of those. And of course in English, because I am farang, and they can clearly see that lol.
I just browsed Hornet for 10 minutes, and I can tell if a guy is Thai or farang on every profile, not once did I have to look twice, or give it a thought. I'm sure every Hornet and Grinder user here agrees! Think, have you guys ever been mistaken for a Thai?
You have said that you think I'm obsessed with you, as far as I can remember you have never posted a pic, so what's there to be obsessed about?
If I wanted a white guy, Iot of Russians here.
I'm just talking, Matt, I'm curious and like to observe. It's the little things!
Btw, what's with all FOs, man?
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Originally Posted by Smiles
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Originally Posted by cdnmatt
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Originally Posted by whitemouse
What is strange about that?
Nothing. It's how obsessed you became over meeting me. You wouldn't stop replying to the thread with messages that should have been PMs, so I dropped a quick reply and said "No", then you went bat shit insane on us all. I can't really get mad, because it's not your fault your crazy, but yeah... we're not meeting.
Yes, and please please [begging, pleading, yes, no,] prove without question that I am not you - heaven forbid - and that you are not me - you should be so lucky.
I talk like this, maybe it's too many 'please', but that's how I talk, and it is usually, never really, interpreted as begging, or being desperate. Many people speak like this, especially when approaching someone for the first time.
It never occured to me that this may come through as begging.
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The PM I am referring to, formatting a bit messed up, my texts in italic:
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Re: The numbskull that is ...
Sent: Mon 7 Oct, 2013 6:19 am
From: Smiles
To: christianpfc
Good morning Christian,
Sorry about the delay. We were in Bangkok for a few days this weekend and I never take my computer or tablet when away.
Secondly, I have a True Move account and for some reason True blocks Sawatdee in Thailand so I have to use a proxy server ... and that is a pain in the ass, as well as not working at all sometimes.
But ths morning it seems to be fine.
christianpfc wrote:
Hello Smiles,
it looks like you read that forum. So do I, but I am hesitant to post any more over there as the level is too low.
I read the Bitch Board for comic relief only. It is a cesspool of losers and as my self image does not allow me to step into sewers I have never joined, nor will I ever. But: sometimes good for a laugh ... laughing at idiots is good for the soul.
Except for merrywhether, who writes like Darika (column in Out in Thailand) and her avatar looks like a feline Darika. Do you have any idea who (s)he is and why someone with a brain would post over there?
Haven't a clue. I don't read Out in Thailand and I know neither a 'Darika' nor a 'Merryweather'. If you say that 'Darika' has a brain, then I can easily make a good guess that she is not a participant on Bitch Board.
You mentioned Bangkok's best kao man gai near Onnut BTS, do you have directions how to find it? And Shamelessmack (long time ago) wrote about massage parlors near Onnut BTS, do you know where they are?
Well, Thai food in general has folks who like certain cooking at certain restaurants or street stalls. I like khao mun gai at the place I mention because it just tastes the best to me. You are others might disagree. Their broth is superb and their hot sauce is the best ... all IMO of course.
It's difficult to give directions, but I'll try: Get off the train at On Nut and exit the station on the Tesco side. Walk past Tesco (going towards Soi 54 or 56). At the first Soi immediately after Tesco block is passed you'll see a group of small stalls selling different stuff and a (very good) coffee stall. Walk past all those and you'll come to another group of stalls, but they are bigger. The one on the very corner is the khao mun gai place and you'll know it by the dead chickens hanging by their necks in a glass case. If you can't find it, just ask someone at any of the stalls and they'll point it out.
I hesitate to look up a map because leaving Sawatdee might lose this message. But I'll find a map and send it to you later.
RE: massage places. Not sure about where Shameless Mack is refering to, but at On Nut again, across Sukhumvit directly on the other side of the station is an excellent Night Market. At the back of it there are quite a few massage beds and they seem very popular. I've never used them, but my guy has and said some ladies there are really good.
I will travel to Hua Hin some day (probably within a few months), would you like to meet?
Why not? For contact, use my email address << removed >> instead of PM's on Sawatdee. My server connection to the board is often unreliable
Regards, Christian
Take care
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I dug deeper but didn't find any other PM's on the subject of meeting.
I don't know if you care, but I still think both of us are great minds but there is some fundamental misunderstanding.
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I suppose one could reach out a fair stretch and extrapolate that the two-word reply "... why not ..." is actually a formal invitation.
I wouldn't, but you might.
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Originally Posted by whitemouse
so if I decide to study it, would you consider giving me lessons, please?
No. All the material you need is available online. Plus for beginners I can recommend the series of books from Benjawan Poomsan Becker. There's beginner, intermediate, advanced, and can be found at nearly every bookstore in Thailand in a tourist location. Please note, even the advanced book is quite beginner, but they'll get you on your way. Those books are how I started at least.
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It is just puzzling to me, how can you be mistaken for Thai on Hornet and Grinder by Thai men
Again, because I write to them in Thai, so they're puzzled. At first, for all they know, I have a farang dad and Thai mom, and have lived here all my life. Doesn't take more than 15 mins of chatting with me though to realize I'm definitely not Thai. I can hold conversations in Thai, but not fluently, unfortunately.
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you have your pics on your profile, are you Asian maybe?
No, I'm as white as they come.
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Originally Posted by whitemouse
You have said that you think I'm obsessed with you
Never said you were obsessed with me. I said you were obsessed with MEETING me. Take a look at page 1 of this thread, and you'll see why I think that. You were hoping I was going to hook you up with a bunch of cute Issan guys, right?
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Originally Posted by christianpfc
..... I don't know if you care, but I still think both of us are great minds.....
The 2015 SGT Award for Most Deluded Member goes to Christianpfc!
:ymparty:
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Originally Posted by scottish-guy
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Originally Posted by christianpfc
..... I don't know if you care, but I still think both of us are great minds.....
The 2015 SGT Award for Most Deluded Member goes to Christianpfc! :ymparty:
My first, emotional, reaction to your snarky smart-ass post was to pull-a-Cndmatt, and tell you to fuck right off.
On second thought - well to be honest - far more than a second - I agree with you.
For myself, obviously being one of two great minds alluded to, the thought that I am an intellectual fuck buddy - i.e. 'equal' - of Christian is nothing if not appalling.
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lol, the flaming room is almost getting better than the actual forum.
Fun stuff.
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Originally Posted by cdnmatt
lol, the flaming room is almost getting better than the actual forum.
Fun stuff.
... and full of bloody Canadians doing their favourite - and only - sexual deviance; the born-in-Newfoundland, cod-based, Cluster-Fuck.
[Don't ask. But, a hint; musical instruments are involved. No strings.]
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What is that Newfies do? Smerck you in, or something? I can't remember what it's called, but the Newfie initation process.
You have to drink a shot of tequila, kiss a fish, and one other thing, but I can't even remember what this is anymore as it's been so long. I've done that before. They didn't have any actual fish on hand, so brought out a couple frozen fish fillets for us instead. :)
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TL;DR
Did I miss something?
(1) Why the hell does whitemouse *care* if Matt is "real" or not? Who cares?
(2) Why the hell does whitemouse call Surfcrest..... Seacrest?
(3) Who the hell does whitemouse think he is.... the identity police? Who here has met whitemouse in person and taken a photo of him?
Silly childish rubbish..... from bored little boys.... ( who are probably in their 70s )
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Whitemouse is real. I have met him 3 (?) times in Pattaya over the years, last in Nov this year. His avatar shows him.
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Originally Posted by Smiles
I suppose one could reach out a fair stretch and extrapolate that the two-word reply "... why not ..." is actually a formal invitation.
I wouldn't, but you might.
Yes. In the English language that means, "Yes."
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Ok..... So by reports he's real....
But what about these 3 questions....
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Originally Posted by bruce_nyc
(1) Why the hell does whitemouse *care* if Matt is "real" or not? Who cares? I certainly don't. I assume that 75-85% of the accounts here are total fiction.
(2) Why the hell does whitemouse call Surfcrest..... Seacrest?
(3) Who the hell does whitemouse think he is.... the identity police?
When did it become his job to call out one single user as being a fraud? Since when did it become mandatory that everything here be independently verifiable? I thought this was an anonymous gay sex board? And if we suddenly have an "Identity Police", why single out Matt? What about all the hundreds of other fakes on here?
None of it makes any sense.
But, personally, I think it's a far far *far* *FAR* worse offense on us all.... to single out one user, attack that one user, and try to "out" him via *trickery* ( trying to meet him under obviously false pretenses and lies )... than the "crime" of wanting to remain anonymous here. I think 99% of the users here chose to remain anonymous. Users like you and I, Christian, are in the tiniest of minorities. But that's ok. People have a right to protect their privacy..... especially with all the sensative stuff we discuss in this forum!
People do NOT, however, have a right to stalk and trick people.... in order to "out" them and obtain their true identity without their permission.
So, be he a real person or not, I think whitemouse's actions are despicable and deplorable.
So what if Matt has been making up a false life story for years....? Tell me exactly who it has harmed...... and how.
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Originally Posted by bruce_nyc
So what if Matt has been making up a false life story for years....? Tell me exactly who it has harmed...... and how.
This does raise the ethical question "do/can lies and lying harm others". Perhaps that should be a new topic for someone to post.
However, regarding cdnmatt he has caused no harm to me as I don't believe anything he writes.
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Originally Posted by bruce_nyc
... than the "crime" of wanting to remain anonymous here. I think 99% of the users here chose to remain anonymous. ... People have a right to protect their privacy..... especially with all the sensative stuff we discuss in this forum!
Refusing to meet members to protect your privacy is fine for me, however cdnmatt invited all and sundry to meet him in Khon Kaen, including dinner invitation and staying at his place, and then went quiet.
Imagine you travelled to Khon Kaen and this is part of your itinerary, and suddenly find yourself stranded. (I didn't because I usually have a back-up plan.) That's what I find objectionable. His stories, true or not, are entertaining.
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What will happen to this thread? It does not violate any forum rules, is quite funny in parts, and can be used to refer the next person who doubts cndmatt's stories to. I suggest it be renamed Whitemouse side topics / cndmatt and moved back.
Good Points Christian, I`ve moved it back and leave my comments here as an edit, so as not to bump it forward.
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That was 2 years ago, love the drama!
It is interesting to look back at posts by Bruce_NYC.
I read the thread again, i doubt Matt will invite anybody to visit him any time soon :)
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I wonder what happen to Bruce_nyc, he has not posted for some time now. I hope he is well!
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Dont know about bruce but i have the hots for Christian, amazing how you all say he has been harassing you all to meet him and when i try to meet him he has excuses !
I love you Christian :heart:
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Bogsville Mick wrote.
" when i try to meet him he has excuses !"
I wonder why? Unfathomable!
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Originally Posted by
Mickp
Dont know about bruce but i have the hots for Christian, amazing how you all say he has been harassing you all to meet him and when i try to meet him he has excuses !
I love you Christian :heart:
It think Christian is a slim guy, if he doesn't want to hook up it may because he has a rational and justified fear being hurt.
If you sleep im his bed, you could easily hurt him, or suffocate him due to your enormous weight. I've seen news stories about children and puppies being crushed in their sleep when a very large person turns around in his sleep, and accidentally suffocates the smaller one in bed.
I'm not saying that is Christian's reasoning, just throwing in a possible explanation.
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You maybe right ! I will sit on his face instead !
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...thats my fav position too...nothing like sitting on a Mb face...instantly revives me...
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Now all that needs to be done is to have cdnmatt, (1) change his mind about moving to Vientiane and deciding on Sri Lanka instead, and (2) telling Whitemouse to fuck off.
Squaring a circle so to speak.
This old thread regarding Whitemouse's stalking cndmatt is refreshingly demented. Whitemouse seems the same old old.