let me make it absolutely clear - I will NOT be buying you dinner at Cafe des Amis. now, can we let it drop? :occasion9:
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let me make it absolutely clear - I will NOT be buying you dinner at Cafe des Amis. now, can we let it drop? :occasion9:
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I live in China and am an expert on Cantonese food.
If the chef is from Hong Kong it is probably Cantonese style food and Cantonese style food it is crap.
I am an expert.
Don't bother going.
So, just so I'm getting this right then - so, by your OWN admission your an expert on crap food then is that right ???Quote:
Originally Posted by kittyboy
Anyway, it doesn't take a genius to work out the level of the restaurant when it's clear they don't even serve "chips with gravy" or "mixed grills" or other popular take away food choices like "curry and chips", where you can ask them to mix it "half and half between chips AND rice as the side dish ( well in good places anyway) etc, but hey if Namarmak likes the place that he's found even though it seems to have perhaps a slightly more limited menu than usual and don't do deliveries and stuff then who are we to question him and I hope he continues to enjoy his trips there when it's open.
NIrish Guy, you're obviously used to gourmet Chinese food, so this place isn't for you. Anyway, how can a restaurant hope to succeed if it's closed half the time and apparently at random? :dontknow:
Yes I am an expert on crap food...I eat the stuff everyday here in China not much else but cantonese food here outside old canton.
The signature dishes of cantonese food are stewed animal entrails and fried pig colon. Let me know how they taste at that highly recommended fine dining place.
They are not really doing Cantonese food. The only somewhat challenging meats they do are Shanghai chicken wings marinated in rice wine and they used to do chicken feet but I think they stopped that.
Pao is not a fine dining restaurant. They don't even have waiters. Like I said, the chefs do it all.
Business is so bad they can not afford to hire waiters?
That is not a strong recommendation.
Taste the food first before you say stupid things like that, OK?Quote:
Originally Posted by kittyboy
These chefs have a different vision. They clearly aren't Donald Trump types. They want to do dishes that they believe in with passion and find an appreciative audience for their unusual vision. For some people, it's not all about the money. Yes they want to turn a profit but they don't want lines out the door either. In the unlikely event they get too busy for them the manage, not sure what will happen. Their ideal is enough trade for a viable business but nothing overboard.
If I ever gave the impression that this was a "typical" restaurant that you should judge with your tired old bourgeois expectations, I have now corrected that for y'all.
Visual? Well I guess that is nice that they are going for a good presentation of the food. I guess nice looking food is well nice to look at but the food has to taste good and fried pig colon is not visually appealing no matter how much lipstick you put on that pig's asshole and the taste Oh MY GOD not good. And I mean they are only open a few days a week and you have to serve yourself as there are no waiters! Oh..Is it a buffet? with a stream tray and all you can eat?
The chefs take your order and bring it to your table. It is not a buffet. What this means of course is that if they are busy cooking at the time you walk in your service will be slowed down as they aren't going to walk away from a dish in progress.
In recent months (it is still a newish restaurant really) they have usually been open about 2/3 of each month, open evenings only from about 6 PM even though their sign says 5 PM, and closed Mondays. They have taken to posting their longer closing periods (travel to Hong Kong) on a signboard so regulars can know what to expect. I also plan to post closure news here. Think of this as a charming quirk. I know I do.
Perhaps I have overestimated the food sophistication of the gay audience here. Well, I'm sure at least of few of you are potential appreciators of the Pao experience. I had thought the gay expat market was a natural for this unusual place but perhaps I was wrong. Alas, this isn't San Francisco.
BTW, some dishes in my view are better than others. Personally, I wouldn't suggest the Xianlanbao for first timers. Those are a foodie cult in Shanghai but although I am no expert on them, my impression is that they are a little weak. I would suggest instead of course the handmade noodles with spicy meat sauce (no doubt the best in town and only about 70 baht) and the pork dumplings (steamed then pan fried). The chewiness of the pork dumplings due to the cooking method is mind blowing.
Wow, that concerns me greatly in terms of hygiene !! One minute they are in the kitchen cooking the pig entrails or whatever it is they seem to serve ( which sound disgusting to me the way) and the next they are out in the public area serving customers, I just hope they wash their hands in between these activities as it's very bad kitchen practice to jump between raw and cooked meats and then the public I think :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Maybe as you are trying to help them out you could suggest that to them as I know at my local Chinese restaurant the buffet is very popular, I think they have an all you can eat menu for a very low price on a sunday and the place is really busy with people after they come out of the bar next door after watching the football, but I guess as they are a bit drunk they really that idea and it's really cheap too just like your place, so perhaps they could do something like that to drum up more trade ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Oh dear :-( See maybe this is why they aren't busy, strange opening hours, no waiter service, no buffet and now it seems there could be quite a delay until you get your food !! ?? That's not good :-( In my local Chinese your food is with you almost immediately once you hear the microwave ding from the kitchens and there's no wait at all, perhaps you could suggest they speed service up to maybe get more customers through the door and if they don't already use them ( but I'm sure they do as all restaurants seems to these days) purchase a microwave themselves?Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Open 2/3 what ? - is that evenings or weeks you're talking about there please ? - wow that's very little but I guess if their food is different than the normal it maybe takes them longer to do ( as you've said) so probably takes more out of them remembering the different recipes that are so different from everyone elses ( have they written them down do you know, maybe that may help then not get as tired when having to remember everything from scratch?). I'm guessing that's why they need the Monday off as well to get over the weekend rush- see, again there's were that buffet idea could help as with that they could feed more people with less effort and not get so tired and I don't know if they have one or not but they could get those big heat lamp things which keeps the food and the chips etc warm for longer and stuff so that they wouldn't have to work as hard or cook it all from fresh each time - maybe that would help them too ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Oh I don't think you have Narakmak, I think we're all about the same levels on here FOR SURE, hell I bet we all enjoy eating out and actually I class myself as a quite sophisticated eater, actually sometimes when I cut out the discount two for one and money off vouchers in my local paper I save them up and then go to one of the quite classy pizza restaurants here in town where sometimes you even have to book and everything ( although only on Mondays as that's when the vouchers are only valid) - well when I say book, I mean perhaps more just queue and wait for a table as they are always busy with families and stag and hen parties and things etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
I always enjoy their food and have stuff like prawn cocktail and sirloin steak and everything ! and even sometimes I have two puddings afterwards ( and different ones at that just to try them all) this is as I consider myself a bit of a food critic on nights like that and enjoy going back and telling my friends how it all tasted ( not that they can afford to go as they're not smart enough to cut the coupons like me but of course I never tell them that's how I afforded it) so I think we all like fancy eating out sometimes - although to be honest your place doesn't sound HALF as fancy as mine I'm afraid :-( .
And as for it not being San Fran - yeah you're SO right there I think, actually was in San Fran once as I was travelling to visit relatives who live in a trailer park just outside one of the suburbs and the restaurant I was in was great! the service was fast, the plates were piled high with food, there were as many chips as you could eat, they gave free coffee refills and the steak just melted in your mouth if you ate it fast enough when it came out of the kitchen while it was still warm - AND it was all served by a waiter I hasten to add ! So yeah I think you're right, you're place sounds nothing like San Fran at all, I see your point there, perhaps you could give your guys some tips there as to how they might bring their place up to scratch quickly to maybe help trade improve ?
No dumplings for you!
Again they don't have pig trotters and I find the place clean and hygienic and have never had any stomach issues after eating there. Again, they are not in the slightest bit interested in meeting western standard expectations of Chinese food and they won't add any menu items to cater to yob tastes, nor will there ever be a buffet. Some have asked them to do crispy noodle Hong Kong chow mein and no doubt they could sell that dish, the answer is NO! I love that attitude. Not saying there is anything wrong with that dish but it's not a dish you do with the kind of special handmade noodles they do. To do that dish they would need to buy in noodles and it wouldn't fit the theme of their menu. Not their vision. They make it work with their concept or not. Take it or leave it. If not enough people do take it, it would be a major loss the local Pattaya Chinese food scene.
What do you mean "yob tastes?" is that a cooking style ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
I think I'm beginning to see where they're going wrong........there's lots of our way or no way in there and lots of No's to good suggestions - first rule of business surely is to listen to what your customers want and them give it to them - no ?? Or are they that arrogant perhaps that they believe what they are doing is right and EVERYONE else is wrong - which is maybe why they have an empty restaurant - maybe for all you know they are terrible cooks and you just don't know it ? is that possible ( although from reading your posts you seems to like food so I'd be surprised if thats the case, but have you eaten out much in other places so you can compare ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
But surely if no one likes it and no one eats there anyway then it would be absolutely NO loss to the local food scene - except to yourself perhaps - which again brings me back to my point above about are you SURE it's good - maybe you've just got besotted with the owners ideology and actually their food isn't that great at all perhaps ??? Is that possible ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Again - see my above - maybe you love the attitude more than the not very popular food ?? Maybe you should go to a few different chinese restaurants in the area and compare then and see what you think then, you might be pleasantly surprised ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
This whole thread cracks me up :laughing3:
Narakmak, I understand your passion for the type of place you describe. If I had more time in Thailand or was an expat, I am certain I would check it out and probably enjoy it.
During my short visits, I enjoy the Thai food you can find on just about any street and I don't go out of my way for dining experiences. Dining is just not the reason I am in Thailand.
It does remind me of a hilarious advertisement I saw somewhere in Pattaya. Someplace was offering Chinese food prepared just the way it is back in America. WTF? Travel all the way to Thailand to enjoy Chinese food that has been Americanized beyond recognition.
There never was such a Chinese restaurant in Pattaya. You mean the ones targeted to UK style Chinese tastes. I get your point and agree tourists are smart to stick with Thai food in Thailand. For expats, it gets boring for almost all of us.
You are pretty dense if you think I haven't tried what is available as "Chinese" in Pattaya! Very little that is actually Chinese. Mostly Thai Chinese. Then there are the UK style places. That's it. I'm extremely knowledgeable about Chinese food but not from eating in Pattaya which is a mostly horrible town for Chinese food. Pao is attracting sophisticated people, like foodies, like chefs, like actual Chinese people. There may not be enough such people to have a viable livelihood for these chefs, but they mean to try it out, and I for one applaud them greatly for it. I also agree it would be wrong for their restaurant to do ANY dish with bought in noodles because the core of their business identity is ALL noodles and dumplings being fresh and handmade.
I don't think you get it. Pao isn't about mass market, dumbed down food. It's about attracting a core of regulars who get it.
Now come on, how would I know that, all I asked was do you go out and eat much, I'm happy to read your reviews but for all I know you're the sort of person who goes out once a month, to the same place, has the same food and goes home, it's not dense to seek to clarify that so that I can get a better gauge for the levity with which to take your opinion as so far all you've told us is that you've gone to a few Chinese's in Pattaya, didn't like them for some reason ( even though they were busy) and one prefer this other one, which is empty and seems to have loads of really negative issues attached to it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Again unfortunately there's nothing you've posted yet that backs that statement up other than giving a positive review to a restaurant that by your own admission is dying and no one else seems to like .......have you ever thought perhaps your own pallet and food preferences may just be slightly out of sync with everyone else's as masses or not good old gravy and chips is still one of the most popular Chinese dishes all over the world I'm sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Yes from reading your comments about your favourite place it certainly sounds like it :-( I hope the the owners get with the programme soon and start serving proper food like the gravy chips I've suggested to you a few times now that people seem to like before it's too late ! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
But as I've already mentioned I for sure am a sophisticated person, who enjoys fine dining in various high street restaurants (on Mondays with the coupons remember) so if as it appears that I'm not liking the sound of your favourite place then perhaps it's not quite as sophisticated as you thought perhaps as I'm an excellent judge of food you know :-((Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
It appears you're correct on that one, unfortuantely it also appears that most of Pattaya don't "get it" also which unfortunately for you means that either your eatery may close or will have to vastly increase their prices beyond the 70 baht a meal you had mentioned earlier - although I have to say at those prices if i were you I might question the ingredients perhaps ? - which you see again unfortunately leads me back to my original question about "have you actually eaten out much elsewhere" to allow you to experience high end dining of the likes that I perhaps am more used to? If not I'll happily extend an invitation to you to join me as my guest some evening ( it''ll have to be on a Monday of course if you don't mind) to a restaurant of my choice to enable me to show you just what good food actually tastes like and then we can compare on a like for like basis as I have a fine pallet and would be very happy to share my favourite dishes with you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
They have small portions as anyone who has actually read the thread would know. The concept is more Chinese tapas style so every diner can experience a variety of tastes to have a balanced, affordable meal. A typical full meal is in the 300 baht range. 70 baht for a noodle dish, but you can spend 150 baht for their salt and pepper squid dish which also isn't a large portion. Yes you could just get the noodles and some customers do but it would be more like a snack for a typical westerner. No I don't question the quality of the ingredients at all. Everything is very fresh in the true Chinese style. For example the shrimps in the shrimp with scrambled eggs dish at 150 baht, a classic Chinese dish, is meticulously cleaned (unlike at Thai places) and simple as it sounds, it was one of the best egg dishes I have ever had in my entire life. So silky. The chefs feel they have a viable restaurant at that level assuming they continue to attract a core of fans and the usual walk by trade from mostly Chinese and Russian tourists. There are already quite a few regular fans. Yes, they need more core customers. But not too many more as they aren't set up to be a mass market operation. Chips and gravy isn't Chinese food. Give me a break!
I meant sophisticated as in foodie. Not in high society fine dining. Not the same thing.
Its kind of sickening how cynical and negative some people are considering they haven't even tried the place in question.
Indeed it is ! They sell it in just about every Chinese restaurant I go to so it MUST be as I know for a fact that they have chips in China ( as I've seen Mcdonalds there) and I'm guessing they must also have gravy so that's "obviously" where the dish came from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Yes, so did I, I'm a very sophisticated foodie and enjoy food in lots of different high street restaurants, I even try their specials sometimes just to widen my food experience - except with pasta or anything that has rice or pork in it as I find most people don't like that and neither do I generally, especially if they only do that microwave rice stuff, I dont know about you but I find that disgusting and it would put me off going back to a place for a few weeks :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Well I know you don't mean me there as rather than be negative I've made several suggestions as to how they could increase their trade but you seem intent on not even passing on my suggestions to them as if they are somehow unworthy of consideration, whereas with my sophisticated palette they would perhaps be a big hit ! And I note you didn't even accept my invitation to sample some food elsewhere so that you really CAN compare your place against mine as I concede it could be close run thing !! but until then I guess you can't really complain about people not trying other places I guess :-( but hey the invitation still stands as I'm sure you'd have a good night out and enjoy the early bird menu they have in most of the places I eat - oh actually that's actually another great idea for your friends, have they tried an early bird menu out yet ? perhaps something light to catch people on their way home from work like egg fried rice perhaps ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Troll. :bounce:
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
Oh how lovely, I spend time trying to help your friends by giving several valid suggestions as to how they could improve their trade, you insult me, belittle me and generally come of as pompous and high handed as to anything other than anyone else's opinion and you think I'm trolling you.......how rude........well all I can say is if you are an example of the type of customer that eats in your friends restaurant I'm not sure I should lower my standards to eat there as I can go to many other places to be insulted instead :-( I wish your friends well in their venture but feel after your comments where you so mortally offended me that I really should just take my business elsewhere :-( And that's after me inviting you out for dinner and everything :-( some people eh :-(((
Good. Please don't go there. They aren't looking for yobs suggesting they serve chips and gravy, trust me.
Be clear. This isn't a snobbish place in the slightest. But the chefs do care about their food, and if you don't like it, yes, go elsewhere by all means.
People in Pattaya who care about Chinese food, yes Chinese food, nothing else, are already finding Pao. It isn't for everyone, that is clear. Are there enough residents and tourists in town to keep it going? Time will tell. It's not just about staying in business. McDonalds is in business. It's about staying in business and serving the special food they serve, available nowhere else in town.
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
WOW, so you come on to promote your place and now you're telling me they don't want the likes of me ( hell that's the second restaurant that's happened to me at in two months in Thailand now :-( Well I don't know, I gave you good ideas, many many well used and established tips that many other restaurants us and you just don't seem interested and yet your place is empty, I just don't get it :-( Perhaps if they even just implemented one of two things as I take your point that they want to keep it special, so something like the microwave to speed up service ( but only for doing the rice in etc) or maybe hiring that waiter or two (which wouldn't even affect the quality of food and might just even make their cooking that little bit better as they would have more time to cook ) then that might help even but with this total rejection of just about every sound business idea I propose well then I really don't know what else to say that could help more :-(
Maybe if they even just expanded the menu a bit - and not just to my fine dining choices but even just to other Chinese food as maybe they're going off on a wrong tangent altogether with that whole dumpling thing, so maybe more the fried pancake duck end of things as I see from my local chinese that that's very popular ???
You don't know Pattaya, do you? Leng Kee, the famous Thai Chinese restaurant that's been here for decades and is famous for their duck is just down the street from Pao!
The dumpling thing, huh? You say you are a foodie and you don't get the Chinese dumpling thing. I don't believe you're a foodie. Did you even get that the name of the place, PAO, is related to dumplings?
You can get U.K. style fried duck on Soi Lengkee. What he does is not a Chinese dish. It is a UK style dish. It won't be on at Pao.
BTW, it isn't my role to say you shouldn't go there. Go ahead and suggest the chips and gravy thing. I guarantee he won't throw anything at you but I also guarantee he won't be serving chips and gravy ... ever.
Obviously not it appears, I really mean to go there some day but Bkk is such fun I find it so hard to drag myself away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
YOU SEE !! That's exactly my point !! They're there, knocking out the whole duck thing and their bunged to the doors it seems, so hopefully you can NOW see that there IS in fact some merit in my many suggestions and not write them off in such a cavalier fashion when they are "obviously" winning ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
But i've already told you I am, just because I don't like the same foods as you doesn't make my any less of a foodie surely - does it ? I'll have you know I eat food every single day in fact so you can't get more foodie than that !Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
I have to admit you've got me there, I had no idea, I feel a little foolish now, thanks for passing that info one though, you learn something new every day eh, you must have some idea what you're talking about I guess if you know detailed and technical stuff like that, I'm more a pile it high eat it quick sort of guy I guess so I bow to your superior knowledge there on that one !Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
That's great news, I just might do that if I ever make it to Pattaya I guess, tell me do they open late as as I'd mentioned earlier I usually like my Chinese on the way home from the bar after a few beers, but if the place is as good as you say I'll happily "sit in" and try something from there - and if they don't do the whole chip and gravy thing that's no problem, as you say there's that other place just down from it and I can maybe get some there to take out and then use them there while I sample some of their food.Quote:
Originally Posted by Narakmak
Leng Kee doesn't do chips and gravy either. I don't think even China Garden does chips and gravy but I wouldn't put it past them. Leng Kee is a Thai Chinese place. There is no crispy fried aromatic duck there either. Just roast duck and duck cooked in Thai curries. Their roast duck is indeed one of the few things on their menu that is more Chinese Chinese than Thai Chinese. Their duck is good. Pao isn't in a position to do roast duck, logistically speaking. I find it bizarre that people think every restaurant needs to do everything. The chicken and rice places all over Thailand that are indeed wonderful. Maybe they should do chips and gravy too ... :violent1:
BTW, I don't completely understand their go away for 10 days every month schtick. I think its funny actually. How can they hire a waiter if the place is closed 10 days every month? Kind of a waste. Not sure whether that will continue into the high season.
They are indeed open late. I think to about midnight. Perhaps not late enough.
Wow, you're obviously right then that all of the Chinese's in Pattaya are useless if they don't do gravy chips either ! :-( Maybe there's an opening in the market then and you're guys could be the first, I'm telling you I think they're missing a trick here !Quote:
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Originally Posted by Narakmak
EXACTLY ! See, give the people what they want, NOW you're starting to get it ! EVENTUALLY thank goodness !!
Thanks for sharing. You are indeed a troll. I must be insane to respond to you further.
My thoughts exactly a LONG time ago ! And do make up your mind, one minute I'm a yob for eating food you considered yobbish amongst many other high handed, pompous, insults you dished out about anyone who "obviously" didn't know anything about food and were obviously lesser mortals than your good self and now I'm a troll simply for not letting you away with it, I guess we'll never know eh.
Meanwhile I do wish your friends all the very best in their venture and if nothing else you've had a great opportunity to tell us all about them, their ethos, their menu and their quality so I'm sure any who wishes will perhaps give them a try - but the advert without the pomposity and judging of others at the start who were "obviously stupid" as they didnt "get it" eyc would I imagine have been much more effective perhaps. However I wish your friends well and if the foods as good as you say I'm sure they will do ok.
Enjoy your dinner, I'm off for a gravy chip before heading off to see my relatives in that trailer park as the food in San fran is SO much better I hear :-)
People seem to have an obsession with talking about food these days..cause of all them tv cookery programes..they all think thier food critics......no wonder their are so many fat people in the world today ha ha
Whatever. I AM a food critic, so deal with it.
I don't watch cooking programs but I do watch Kitchen Nightmares!
One thing that they do at Pao which is real unusual is serving dumplings and/or noodles in their authentic hot and sour soup (which I prefer spicier).
For example, their fantastic handmade thick and chewy Shanghai noodles or their stuffed Chinese ravioli with pork or chicken, or a large elegant wonton stuffed with shrimp. I had never heard of that treatment of hot and sour soup anywhere but the chefs tell me it is found in some places in Hong Kong, but again not even common there. In my view, it really works and I consider one of those hot and sour treatments with dumplings or noodles a must order there.
This is real Chinese flavor hot and sour soup, not the fake UK style hot and sour soup they serve at China Garden.
The point is you were posing as if you knew something and it turns out you didn't. So yes I diss you for that. Someone sincere who is interested in learning about new foods gets my full respect!
Also, I know you're a troll, but seriously anyone who insists a good/real Chinese restaurant must sell chips and gravy is a moron. I don't think you actually believe that though, as you're obviously just a troll.
So two questions.....
exactly where is this place and also do you know if anyone serves Bejing or Hong Kong Duck in Pattaya. All this talk about duck made me crave a Hong Kong style duck with pancakes etc and I don't want to have to go all the way to Bangkok to the Shangri-la.
You can get Peking duck here:
http://www.siamhotels.com/siambayshore/ ... 21-en.html
Thousands of baht I'm sure.
Also at the Sechuan/Northern Chinese place on Soi Welcome Jomtien, order in advance. Also thousands of baht.
Pao is on Pattaya Klang, next door to Fascino pharmacy, north side, between 2nd and 3rd, further east than Leng Kee.
Not sure exactly what you mean by Hong Kong duck? Roast duck? Then Leng Kee.
Also good duck in 3rd road, east side at the Thai Chinese place also serving goose. To go there, turn left on 3rd from Pattaya Klang, head north and look for the first shop selling duck and goose on the right.
No, not arrogant at all there Narakmak, I can't think WHERE I got that idea about you from, I must have been dreaming, the guy makes ONE comment and you come out with a reply like that - wow!Quote:
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Ha ha are you KIDDING me now :-) I've been ripping the piss out of you ALL afternoon - from my very first post almost ( at least from the second you started doing the whole judgemental calling people "yobs" thing just as they don't eat what YOU consider good food - and no of COURSE I don't think "gravy chips" are proper Chinese food you eejit, that's the whole point, the more and more ridiculous I got in talking about microwaving the rice or having McDonalds and their chips in China or early bird vouchers etc etc you were so wrapped up in your own pomposity you couldn't even see you were being taking for a ride and the more you expressed just how smart you were and how thick anyone else was ( me in this case) although I think you got a few digs in at the lack of Sophistication ( you're favourite word it seems) of the Pattaya residents, or the "tired old bourgeois expectations" ( of someone you don't even know) or your possible over estimation of the sophistication ( there's that word again) of Pattaya's gay audience etc etc I intentionally just got more and more ridiculous as the day went on waiting for YOU at some point to "get it" that I was TOTALLY taking the piss out of you - not trolling - but taking the piss out of you - two very different things as you just continued to fuel the fire yourselve with your own high handed pomposity.Quote:
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And for the record I make no claims to know anything about food other than I like eating it and you're insistence in carrying on full on debates with someone who's proposing putting gravy chips on menus and installing microwaves in such a place says more about your naivety and lack of any common sense to know when you're being had more than anything else perhaps.
I obviously knew you were taking the piss didn't I? Read my posts again.
In my view, same difference. I knew you didn't believe that crap. You were just trying to rile me up. Translation: TROLL.Quote:
I don't think you actually believe that though, as you're obviously just a troll.
yes, sure you did :-) Ok, whatever we're both getting so far off the topic (if we were ever on it :-) that we should stop rather than incur the rath of he who must be obeyed, I've said my bit and expressed my opinion and you have replied in kind whilst also getting your friends a lot of free advertising ( I think ) so all in all I guess we're both happy in the end.
ah guys, don't stop now - this has been funnier than most TV I've seen. I think you make a great double act. :occasion9: