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Bucknaway writes:" Happy Place is a nice enough bar. When I went they didn't have any guys that fit my taste but that could be that they were all offed before I arrived".
I had to have a laugh when I read this as I was in a well known bar around the BT area the other night(not Happyplace) and I spoke to the owner of the bar who I have known for years. There were more customers in the bar than boys on the stage and what was on the stage was almost as poor quality as Happy Place. Apparently a lot of customers were complaining about the low quality and numbers on the stage and the owner confided to me that he was lying to customers and saying that all the nice boys had been offed earlier.
I knew it to be a lie as i had to to the bar that night when it first opened that night as I walked out then as there was nothing to look at let alone off.
The only name I've ever heard for them is "mook", a small glass bead (or ball bearing or smooth pebble) placed under the skin of the penile shaft by making a small cut, pushing the foreign object under the skin and then allowing it to heal shut. There was just talk of these on one of the forums recently. They're seen throughout Asia, I'm told. I dated a Vietnamese man years ago who sported the first one I'd ever seen. I wouldn't mind not seeing another one.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottish-guy
Some remain "healed" in one spot, some move around a little beneath the skin. On the top side of the shaft they're supposed to stimulate the clitoris during hetero sex. Now aren't you sorry you asked? :happy7:
No - I'm grateful for the information. Had I come across this myself I'd have believed it to be some kind of disease!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bao-bao
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Oh no!Quote:
Originally Posted by bucknaway
There are 2 guys in WWB that i have my eye on... Hope that your dud guy is not one of them... but i have a feeling it might be!
Any numbers?
First a personal update on happyplacebar. The boys in the website photos were not to be seen in their place as has been posted were mostly guys in their 30's, not goodlooking and not thin. My first night impression was this bar is looking for the rough trade market and the twinks may not appeal to the owner. They looked bored and were boring to watch.
I went to the boys bingo but before I mention that, called in to do my email not far from twoguys, between visits to HPB. There were 5 boys on gayromeo including the one I had the hots for fom the website. He was even wearing the HPB T shiirt.On reflection they are not getting the offs they were expecting as young spunks, and prefer the ready pickups available on gayromeo.
The comment on an earlier post they had been taken off early should have been they did not bother turning up.
I decided after 2 visits the second just a quick drink then off, I would not go to boybingo.
Then I wondered if the winner decided that none of the boys were attractive enough to off, what would happen. It was not exciting to begin with when the waiters came around with sheets with 3 bingo "cards" and you had to mark off the numbers as in real bingo. that seemed to go forever.
Then they came around selling a second sheet for more of the same thing. Twenty minutes later the third and final. 300 baht in bingo fees to save 300 baht in off fees.
Sure there were donated prizes, drink cards and dinners. Neverless a healthy take from 3 bingo sessions that I doubt will ever be repeated.
If the bar is to survive IMHO they need to sack whoever employed the go go men and all the go go men over 25. There is still time before high season.
Called in to BBB the night before mainly because the 2 young military looking farang drinking outside. Here the boys were almost as old as HPB but they were buffed, in good condition but like HPB did not look the remotely interested in pay for gay. The show which I had not seen for 5 years was a surprise restricted by the size of the stage. The two rows in front of the stage are elevated but the third row where I sat was not so gave a restricted view. Strange.
The military looking boy with a crew cut was almost doing his balls over one of the drags with blonde hair. He was at the same time embarrassing and funny as he did everything but climb on the stage as she performed.
My friend met me and he claimed that Funny Boys was almost empty, Xboys boring although the big cock show lightly covered with see through gauze was passable the best looking boys have gone back to BKK, the fuck show covered with a large sheet that was lifted for maybe 10 seconds at a time, was not erotic or interesting.
Earlier I had called into Wonderland Cabaret I think they call themselves nightclub.
The show was due to start at 10PM and I put my head inside to see if the owner was there smoking, he was not and despite the time the show had not started. I elecyed to stay.
It was then I noticed the ladyboy mamasan/manager curled up asleep or passed out in an armchair that all performers have to pass to get to the stage.The show started and she went outside for the full performance. The go go boys and staff gave very enthusiastic applause to cover the fact there were few in the audience,the show was surprisingly good.
There is no feeling from me for the owner, if he is not interested in what is happening he deserves to fail.
With high season racing towards us it seems that BBB is the only one of the three that will survive.
For some reason I have had a huge number of PM's from unkiebuck the owner of Happyplacebar criticizing me for my posts.
For gods sake I created 2 threads that had almost 4000 viewers and he did not even say thanks.
Publicity like that you cannot buy and I was disappointed by the elderly boys that were presented to me when I visited.
Do not shoot the messenger look at your own operation. it should be good but failed. I can do nothing about that. Stop PM me.
Lonely Wombat wrote to us and opened the threads and wrote a PM that said he had a GREAT TIME.
The problem here is that Aussie wrote a POST and had a problem with the billing of his drinks which was resolved. Lonely decided to qouote Aussie without mentioning it was a quote and caused mass confusion as to who was stating it. Then Lonely wrote a vicious untrue post which he cannot prove to this day. We have asked repeatedly for him to review our records to show he is incorrect but he doesnt want to nor have a freind do for him.
It is unfortunate that Lonely Wombat jumped into the problem between Aussie and the bar, but I guesswhy will have to be answered by Lonely.
Only Lonely will also be able to answer WHY Happy Place was such a great place serving ober 160 drinks a night according to his posts and then suddenly a horrible place to visit.
I ask anyone to come visit our wonderful bar and see what everyone is talking about and if you honestly can say that they boys on the website are not there, or that all the boys are over 30 like Lonely says or you did not have a good time, I will give you your drink for free!
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Re: Last night
Sent: Mon 18 Oct, 2010 4:50 am
From: lonelywombat
To: unkiebuck
deleted. This was in response to a post which Lonely sent to us under his name and never told us it was from another user. Caused mass confusion.
may I suggest if you quote someone you make it clear that it is a QUOTE!?
In my opinion, if you're a business owner in Pattaya, you are better off being conservative in your postings. Avoid picking or escalating a fight. Whether the customer is right or wrong, openly criticising one won't reflect well on your business.
If you need to rebutt a bad review, stick to making a clear, concise and factual statement, which you can back up. It might be ok now, but if the argument escalates and all these anonymous members pile in, it may get pretty messy for you. Me, I couldn't give a toss. But for you as a business the stakes are higher. Everything you say is public.
Why? I can't see any reason to suspect this on a significant level. They may know each other and/or be from the same country. Doesn't mean they're the same person. They have totally different writing styles.Quote:
Originally Posted by unkiebuck
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Originally Posted by aussie_
From AUSSIE_'s post it doesn't sound like the inability to use TWO promotional discounts at once was the issue. The issue was that the promotional discount only applied to the first drink ordered and the rest of the drinks were full priced with no discount as promised at all (at least as he tells it).Quote:
Originally Posted by unkiebuck
He's written good stuff as well as bad stuff. I don't see him writing all bad reviews...Quote:
Originally Posted by unkiebuck
Wait a minute... when did he request "free drinks" for starting threads about Happy Place? Was it done by PM? What handle did he use to send the PM?Quote:
Originally Posted by unkiebuck
Records can prove that Lonely Wombat wrote raving reviews about Happy Place bar while he was in Australia and never even seen the bar. Why? Ask Lonely.
I don't post often but I was at the Boy's Bingo on Nov 22 and had a good time. The waiters were friendly and the dancers were ok. None seemed very old. The guys were all types. I did not see any problem. The drinks were priced more reasonably that many places in the area. The music was not loud so the friend I went there with could at least talk to each other, which is a plus! The bar had many customers.
After Bingo we went to Funny Boys. There was also many customers there at about 11 pm. The short time I was there, I saw several guys "offed".
Cafe Royale "Music Cafe", did not have any customers, again and only 1 customer on the terrace. It does not seem to be doing well.
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I cannot believe that you would resort to making blatant false statements about me, your assumptions stun me and I suggest that whatever you are drinking you increase the water substantially.Quote:
Originally Posted by unkiebuck
well at least this is a good case study of how a business owner should not handle a valid or otherwise customer complaint!
Think I might know what has happened here. I've asked UB for some info. So if everyone could "cool it" for now...
I was there also and had the same impressions. I liked the evening. We got 2 prices ( a 5 hour trip and one bottle australian wine) Many boys i would have offedQuote:
Originally Posted by Pattaya Male
Sheesh... what a mess.
1. I think there's just been a lot of confusion. You guys don't use proper formatting lines or quotation marks/tags when you quote other people's writing so this leads to a lot of confusion whether you are writing something or quoting what someone else wrote, Lonely especially. When you paste someone else's comment in your PMs like that, what do you expect the recipient to think?
2. I don't think there's any proof AUSSIE_ and Lonely are the same person so it's best not to make that accusation in an absolute way. They have fairly different writing styles too.
3. I hope no one's colluding with bar owners to write false reviews and put out bullsh*t (positive or negative) as this would be misleading and doesn't indicate much ethical sense. And to go as far as requesting favours for it would be pretty cheap and even more misleading. Going even further, getting vindicative enough to post a negative review, just because you're offended would get pretty low... that's what LMTU would do. So I hope the negative review LW posted is a genuine experience.
4. I don't think it's good to inundate bar owners with PMs and e-mails about complaints, advice on how to run their bar, petty shit that happened and stuff. A courteous e-mail or two is good but I doubt they want to be handling personal messages from every customer who walks into their bar.
I will end this spat with direct answers to the accusations without any "guess work".
Answers:
In Lonelys post of Oct 7, 2010 he posts the PICTURES of the boys on the website. His false comment of Oct 26, 3:26am he states "The boys in the website photos were not to be seen in their place as has been posted" is absolutely FALSE. All the boys except two are in the bar each and every night and have time cards to prove it. they were there the night of Bingo which is the night he claims to be there and records of boys being there and their ages will show that the majority of the boys there the night he states he was there are between 19 - 25. Not over 30!
In Lonelys comment where he goes on to further state " were mostly guys in their 30's, not goodlooking and not thin. Please check us out for yourself.
In re to Boy Bingo He states that he decided to stay just to see if the winner thought nobody was attractive enough, what would happen.
That is really hard for me to swallow.
He goes on to say that Bingo .... "that seemed to go forever."
Bingo had three games and from start to finish ALL THREE games took 45 minutes. that is only 15 minutes per game.
He states in re to Boy Bingo "from 3 bingo sessions that I doubt will ever be repeated."
The first Boy Bingo in Oct we were 2/3rds full. Nov we were totally full and most stayed afterwards.
Speaking to all that I spoke to enjoyed the time and will be returning for December 22nd Boy Bingo.
In CLOSING, I have no idea what happened to you from your RAVE reviews and us serving over 160 drinks most nights of 100 baht special to your latest comments but I think you need to reflect.
We are a good honest bar with usually 30 boys or more, 5 on a stage at a time and they work in rotation of two per song off and on so you see al lthirty within 1/2 hour. We find that first of all we have a small stage. Second of all, if the boys are on stage 10 mintes every hour, well they have 10 minutes to work hard to catch your eye. THEY DANCE! Not stand around like dummies. They are fed a good meal catered by Palmers Restaurant prior to the bar opening. They are HAPPY. Most of the boys on the website CAN be found in the bar BUT as everyone knows, boys come and go like changing underwear. it is too costly to update the website each week or even month. Prior to all this, we had a photot shoot and submitted the disks to our IT man and expect the website to show more faces soon.
happyplacebar.com
Our alcoholic drinks are of top quality and lower brands are not served in individual drinks in a bar. You may buy them only by the bottle. Our standards in our drinks include Johnnie Walker Red, Absolute, Tanqurey and Bombay, to name a few.
Every customer gets a warm welcome with a snack and cold terry towel.
Boys and staff are not permitted to ask for drinks from customers unless they offer and are not permitted to ask for tips! They get one warning and then they are fired. Bothering customers for drinks and tips is a no no in Happy Place Bar.
No we are not a big bar, but we are a warm small bar! A freindly bar. and a previous post about that we are full when we have 12 people is again wrong! Happy Place holds about 60 people.
yes we have a sign that says women are welcome. We are on a 50% straight soi and I am tired of telling women, yes you can come in! We are gay owned and operated. We allow women as does all other bars in Boys own.
If you are unsure of anything I have promised, please try us and if you dont agree with what I have said, then ask your waiter for the manager and your drink will be on the house!
You will see why HaPPY PLACE BAR has been and continues to be the BUSIEST bar in Pattaya!
Thank you for your ear.
Best holiday wishes from the management and boys! :blob4:
Nicely and clearly said...
I don't think anyone is able to follow this mess.
Basically, what's happened is...
1. Accusation Lonely/Aussie are the same: Lonely sent Unkiebuckie a PM quoting AUSSIE_ without using any sort of quotation tags or punctuation so it looked like he wrote it. From this miss-leading PM, along with previous correspondence from Lonely, Unkie made the conclusion they were the same poster and Lonely was making malicious posts about his bar. The suspicion that Lonely and AUSSIE_ are the same poster has been cleared up. They are not and Unkie has cleared this up.
Whilst Unkie fired off a bit quickly, I think the problem is Lonely often writes in an ambiguous and difficult to interpret way. Lonely, I can't tell you how many of your PMs and posts I have to read three times to understand properly or can't understand at all... I suppose now you see what problems hopeless writing composition causes.
2. Unkie has called Lonely out on some of what he believes are factual errors in his last review. I guess it's up to Lonely whether he wants to accept he posted incorrect observations or whether he can specifically rebutt the points Unkie has put forward to dispute the statements Lonely made.
I also think if anyone is going to write or publish a review about a bar/venue it should be genuine, whether good or bad. No one should write fake reviews for the sake of promoting a bar. It's mis leading and insulting to readers and kills the credibility of other genuine reviews. It's great to post factual updates and information you hear about, but don't put something forward as an experienced review unless it is that... Most of the reviews in this thread are genuine. There are one or two, which may not be.
You know, the multiple interweaving plots in that movie, "Social Network" are easier to follow LOL.
Beachlover, sometimes you crack me up! :lam:
WHO CARES?
Personally, when reading this board I take any sort of criticism of a venue as a reason for DEFINITELY going there on the basis that if the tasteless and boring old farts in here don't like it, it must be OK.
The reverse also applies - ever since I took advice once and booked a friend into a "wonderful" hotel is Sunee which was truly appalling.
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Does all your fat wobble when that happens?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Dover
Scottish... not everyone is as sensible or out of their minds as you. :happy7:Quote:
Originally Posted by scottish-guy
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Originally Posted by Beachlover
Fat? What fat?
Lets go c2c and see who is the fat one?
PM your Email addy and we will go from there OK?
Previous posts from us in regard to Aussie have been deleted. The original complaint in regard to being misbilled were resolved and agreed by both that it was probably due to confusion and misunderstanding.
My thought that Aussie and Lonely Womabat were both the same were in error and seem to be incorrect and those comments were removed.
My posts regarding the inacuracies in Lonely Wombats complaint remain unresolved. We have asked lonely Womabat to review our time cards our boys and their applications as well as other inaccuracies in his post but he does not wish to. We therefore stand by our previous posts. :violent1:
when you cater to the 80 yr. old sex tourist crowd you have to put up with a little senility.
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Originally Posted by unkiebuck
I know Pattaya is full of queens - but is this the Royal "we" and "our"????
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How hurtful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beachlover
Mentally, I am perfectly OK now.
In fact I have a certificate from the Institution to say so.
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Yes, I can vouch for Scottish guy, he is totally certified. :sign5:
unkiebuck previously wrote:
Previous posts from us ... We have asked ... our boys .... We therefore stand by our ....
SCOTTISH BOY THEN WROTE:
I know Pattaya is full of queens - but is this the Royal "we" and "our"????
"OUR Reply":
The bar operates on a different basis than most other places of business in Thailand. We go with the assumption that our staff and management DO actually have brains and can form and make a proper decision when confronted with a situation. Yes, it is sometimes difficult, but my boys are adapting well.
They were all told about the post and it was translated to them. The slanderous lies were hurtful to both myself as bar owner, the management of the bar and staff. They had a right to know and give their opinions on the post.
My management which cosists of three, have been told about each and every post and have given their opinions on the accuracies or should I say inaccuracies of the posts.
That, dear freind is the ROYAL WE, US and THEM. :headbang:
Called into Happy place last night, and had a great night. Was a pleasant change to sit in a well run bar and not been bothered for drinks and tips from pushy mama sans, but still have friendly service. Saw plenty of cute boys to off, and the boy I did off has to have been one of the hottest boys i have offed in many years of visiting LOS. Congratulations to the owner.
PS although i am an Aussie, I am not the Aussie or a lonely wombat :rolling:
I enjoyed my time in Happy Place last night. :happy7:
How old are you, netrix?Quote:
Originally Posted by netrix
Beachlover, you up for that c2c session buddy?
Be nice to see your face, perhaps we can go a little further?
If you look anything like your avator I'm in for a treat
kiss
not 80Quote:
Originally Posted by Beachlover
Ventured in to pattayaland last night and thought I should visit Happy Place. Ordered a Red soda which came with towel and some nuts. Checked the bill and it was 160bt. I thought drinks were 120bt but ,my mistake ,that was only for beer. No big deal for only one drink. As for the boys, I guess every boy appeals to someone but as most of the boys were muscled and tatoo'd there was only one that might have appealed to me.
My impressions on leaving.......another overpriced bar with a poor selection of boys.
When I was in Pattaya, the only reason I visited Happy Place was the 100 Baht drink price. That is also the only reason I went back for a 2nd visit. I had to wait for a friend and get out of the rain. Happy Place seemed to be the best choice to do both.
I found the Copa to be my favorite stop in Boyztown with Wild West running 2nd. In Sunee... Krazy Dragon was the only reason for me to visit Sunee.