Surely (don't keep calling me Shirley!) it's a natural reaction - not wanting to face up to our own mortality?
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Surely (don't keep calling me Shirley!) it's a natural reaction - not wanting to face up to our own mortality?
....and more than happy to face up to the mortality of others.
Non, non! when you bring a bottle of wine to a restaurant, whether with a cork or a screw cap one must pay the price of opening the bottle. In French the expression is "droit de bouchon"/right of the cork/stopper.
Now, as for the Barmy Army, which demobilized some years ago with the passing of Let-Me-Tell-You, they are not really drinkers of wine or spirits except for a few. As for thinkers, that is a matter of conjecture.
Having observed their "meetings" in All of Me, I can safely say none of them were Irish.
I think you may be incorrect about that, joe, although there was never a real Barmy Army.
In fact I do not recall who was or wasn't associated with that group back them however there were some whose names were Irish. Basically the Army was a figment of LMTU's(let-me-tell-you) imagination to characterize any and all whom he disliked. If anything, those he maligned likely were unaware of him or his intentions nor concerned about him. In modern parlance, simply fake news.
Well, francois, I'm always open to correction. On my last few trips to Pattaya, and to All of Me, there was a group of 6-8 Americans who gathered every evening, sat and chatted for an hour or so, then dispersed. I always assumed they were the infamous 'barmy army'. Am I wrong?
And these are the same guys who enjoy Meatloaf Thursday?
Thanks, MFAS
Not really, joe. Those who attend the meatloaf dinners are from various locations in Pattaya including Jomtien and downtown Pattaya. While those who were part of the fictitious Army where fewer in number and lived closer to the downtown Pattaya area. No different than any other group of friends who would regularly congregate on a regular basis.
I sometimes wondered if some of them were ex-military, who served in the Vietnam war, and never went home. Or fell in love with SE Asia, and returned when their military service ended. Pure speculation on my part.
I only know of one man who served in Vietnam who now lives part time in Pattaya. Likely there are more.
He probably told the boys that he was a 4 Star General cleaner in the US Army.
To someone with basic English that would sound great.
I seem to recall seeing a sign at the big round table at the front of All of Me "Reserved for The Barmy Army"
It used to say VIPs in The Corner Bar. I know...beggars belief.
Regular customers are VIPS for any business, especially one struggling in Sunee.
I don't understand why people want to put shit on those who are helping to keep the place alive.
Some people would p-ss on Mother Teresa.
But then Christopher Hitchens (who's badly missed) called her ' Hell's Angel'.
What's the fuck has that got to do with Vietnam War?
:dash:
Sometimes people visit SE Asis for the first time, fall in love with it, and stay.
Matt, I was talking about guys who had served in the military during the Vietnam war. Whatever we (those of us old enough to actually remember it) think of the war now, the guys who fought deserve our respect. Your trite "I went to Kuala Lumpur and never went home" comment is insensitive, to put it mildly. Your experience of Asia is nothing compared to those young men.
Yes but as Joe says, he was talking about falling in love with SE Asia and returning after military service
You know how we like to keep things relevant and on-topic here Matt - we don't want Head Judge Len (aka Arsenal) ticking you off do we?
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I think it's the suggestion that a bunch of raddled old queens can be described as Very Important Persons
From my observation of the group at All of Me, they were undemanding, just sat and chatted for an hour or two, and went on their way. I've no idea how much they would spend - one or two drinks each perhaps - but in low season, (I usually went in June) having a group you could count on is a big thing. Makes the place look popular. I know I tend to go to a bar which already has customers.
Hunting game teaches you that this is correct.
If you wait by a lake and wish to bag some wild ducks or geese you put out decoys.
These bob up and down on the water and give flying game overhead the urge to join in the fun.
Then you shoot your load and go home (ironically) with a full bag despite the fact that you've shot your load ....if that makes sense.
To be honest, it's a bit of a stretch, if you'll pardon the pun.
Francois wrote. (Francois is the official Ambassador for The Meatloafateers here on SGT)
"So, according to you, arsenal, a bar cannot have a reserved table for loyal customers?
Now that beggars belief."
Perhaps with such a love of cheap meatloat the sign on the table should simply read 'Beggars.'
Yet, we're told that some people (the ROQs) are designated VIPs (and indicated as such by a little VIP sign on their table), whilst all others (without a VIP sign) are by implication not as important.
Personally I don't frequent the bar in question and I have nothing against the VIP/ROQs (I'd happily be described as a ROQ myself!) - but if I was a customer paying the same prices as the VIP/ROQs then I'd feel uncomfortable to be designated less important and that's bad management.
I've taken the piss out of them (and will certainly continue to do so) but they do spend money on drinks and in low low season they'll still be there night after night. Corner Bar Michael (and his return would be greeted like the second coming) said they often made the difference between breaking even and losing money.
I understand that - and it's fine if (as a non-VIP) you're happy to be told your "place" and to accept it.
When I go into a bar though I do not do so on the basis of it being some kind of members' club into which I am merely an interloper.
However, that's just my natural rebellious streak.