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I don't believe that matt lives in KK and that most of his stories are fabricated although possibly based on some sort of reality. If anything he is just another older gent living in Pattaya and living his fantasy via this forum. And furthermore, do one including Allan nor Joe will ever meet him.
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Wow, you really are at the far reaches of disbelief. :))
So what happens if, for instance, Newalaan meets up with Cndmatt, finds that he is indeed blind, then sits down to a complex dinner prepared and cooked to perfection (by Matt) and includes a young Lao boy who is obviously living with him and then Newalaan posts all about it on Sawatdee.
That scenario even possibly happening makes me an 'Other'.
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Smiles, I never said I was a *GOOD* cook. I only said that I love to cook. :)
heh.
Besides, nobody is coming to my house. Meeting in town is ok though.
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Beginning to look the vociferous stalkers are not in the huge majority that they assumed they were. Perhaps on that basis they could stop forensically scrutinising and questioning matt's posts and just go with the flow, like the rest of us.
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francois
I don't believe that matt lives in KK and that most of his stories are fabricated although possibly based on some sort of reality. If anything he is just another older gent living in Pattaya and living his fantasy via this forum. And furthermore, do one including Allan nor Joe will ever meet him.
Ahh, but, Francois....the time I did set up a meeting with cdnmatt in KK, it was I who aborted at the last minute, not cdnmatt! From the time we made the meet up date/time he never sent any communication as a softener which could lead up to an easy cancellation. In fact when I called to tell him my change of plans at the start of the call he had no idea what I was going to say, more likely expected details for the meet up, but he never butted-in to try and make an excuse or pre-excuse not to meet, and seemed genuinely surprised at the cancellation.
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Smiles
Wow, you really are at the far reaches of disbelief. :))
So what happens if, for instance, Newalaan meets up with Cndmatt, finds that he is indeed blind, then sits down to a complex dinner prepared and cooked to perfection (by Matt) and includes a young Lao boy who is obviously living with him and then Newalaan posts all about it on Sawatdee.
That scenario even possibly happening makes me an 'Other'.
I doubt that exact scenario, but something very close I expect....I wouldn't meet him at his home, last time we set up a meet which I cancelled (as above) it was to meet up in KK City where it was convenient for me and bf depending on where we were/what we were doing. We only had an afternoon/early evening, which matt already knew so not a great deal of time...so Coffee shop, Pub. restaurant Mall... and would expect the same again if I can find the time when in KK City. Certainly it will be more 'interesting' with matts blindness depending on what level of blindness he has. But that wouldn't really matter as bf (although shy) is an Issan lad and Leo is Lao boy, virtually the same so i'm sure between bf and Leo we'd be able to synchronize. And yes, with matts permission would certainly post the experience here.
I of course believe in matt totally, even with a447's utterly lame attempt to expose him as a fraud, '555'. A447 did exactly the same with Latin and he WASTED an enormous amount of his personal time apparently 'proving' Latin too was a fraud, yet he managed to come up with absolutely NIL proof, and the rest of the board seem content to reply to Latin as if he exists as a normal (as far as can be considered normal with Latin) person/member. He can only come up with the odd inconsistency but I could apply that across the whole membership including myself as I have often declared something in a trip review to find later from memory or notes that it wasn't absolutely accurate, date/place/name. I accepted Latin at the very start, that sans....exaggeration, over-dramatic embellishment and using 'trigger' bestiality words to get the membership 'going' was probably true. Yet many questioned his authenticity, and would still do since nothing has been proved to the contrary. So my same 'gut' feeling is applied to cdnmatt.
I'm slightly concerned at Joe's plan to meet up though. It seems fraught with potentianl problems. Fine get a bus from Pattaya, Bt550 I think is the most recent fare I remember, arrive bus station KK, Joe does not speak even the smallest amount of Thai (as far as I' aware), has no Thai person with him, I would not advise it. I find it difficult enough when alone in Issan to make myself easily understood I even know my way around to some extent, but I would never consider wasting precious days of a trip just for a meet up, I have only met up, or would meet up with members already in the same area. Those would be members I felt did exist, if I had any doubts about a members authenticity, as Joe does, wouldn't even consider it never mind go out of my way.
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Look, Matt has agreed to meet me in Khon Kaen, and has even recommended a hotel there. My trip to Bangkok is looking very doubtful, so I'm happy to take on this little adventure. But as I've said before, details will be discussed via email or PM
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This is going to be awesome.
I'll go get ready, and clean my ass for the round of apologies coming my way when everyone finds out I'm exactly who I say I am.
haha...
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newalaan2
I of course believe in matt totally, even with a447's utterly lame attempt to expose him as a fraud, '555'. A447 did exactly the same with Latin and he WASTED an enormous amount of his personal time apparently 'proving' Latin too was a fraud, yet he managed to come up with absolutely NIL proof, and the rest of the board seem content to reply to Latin as if he exists as a normal (as far as can be considered normal with Latin) person/member. He can only come up with the odd inconsistency but I could apply that across the whole membership including myself as I have often declared something in a trip review to find later from memory or notes that it wasn't absolutely accurate, date/place/name. I accepted Latin at the very start, that sans....exaggeration, over-dramatic embellishment and using 'trigger' bestiality words to get the membership 'going' was probably true. Yet many questioned his authenticity, and would still do since nothing has been proved to the contrary. So my same 'gut' feeling is applied to cdnmatt.
It seems to me that whenever there is hostility between members and chaos on the board, a747's name invariably pops up: a747 vs cdnmatt, a747 vs frequent, a747 vs Surfcrest, a747 vs latintopxxx, a747 vs Brad the Impala, etc etc. Has the jumbo dumbo ever had any success in his stalking attempts to expose one member or another as a fraud? And it's not enough that he maliciously accuses them of this and that but he demands that members be banned for some perceived insult or for simply disagreeing with him and stirs up even more trouble when he doesn't get his way. Surfcrest is no longer the board owner and moderator and rarely posts now but a747 is still stalking him! It never ends and to me smacks of vindictiveness, petulance and immaturity. To use that old cliche, hasn't he got anything better to do?
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I'll go get ready, and clean my ass for the round of apologies......
It seems A447 is already preparing the ground on that one........But I really can't think why anyone with such a sure mind that cdnmatt is a fraud would even bother wasting 2 seconds on the keyboard to offer up this....
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a447
If I am wrong, I'll join the queue to apologise profusely to you. I certainly would have no problem whatsoever doing that.
In fact, I'll make sure I'm at the front of the queue. I want to be the first.
(matts 5th of the month 555 = rent day) And how many days has it taken for you to come up with that excuse?
Does A447 have doubts creeping in.............?
I'm surprised you didn't know already that rent in Thailand is due during the few days of the month, and the 5th seems as genuine as any. Don't you speak with ANY of the boys you interact with.
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I voted "Other" as I honestly don't care whether cdnmatt is real or not and it makes not one iota of difference to my life if he is. Don't get me wrong; randomly fact-checking his claims can be fun and adds to my Thai learning experience. But I generally don't read his posts as I find soap operas banal and tedious. It's funny how his biggest critics are also the ones who follow and respond to his threads most religiously like bored housewives with no life and no sex. Personally, I'd be far more concerned if someone were to continuously express a desire for underaged boys or boasts about taking advantage of a student on school premises for these actions "impact on real people living real lives" (arsenal, post #8).
Christian, why is your poll open for so long? Doesn't it give opportunity for 'new' members to appear and corrupt the poll by padding either the 'yes' or 'no' vote? You should also have made the names of the voters visible so that new members or members who infrequently post can be scrutinised.
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joe552
Look, Matt has agreed to meet me in Khon Kaen, and has even recommended a hotel there. My trip to Bangkok is looking very doubtful, so I'm happy to take on this little adventure. But as I've said before, details will be discussed via email or PM
My apologies for the cynical nature of my response Joe. At first I really thought you were just trying to call matt's bluff to see what kind of response you got because you indicated you were 'undecided' about his status, but as you are serious and are happy to include the meet-up as part of your trip, even though out of the way and you're not 100% convinced about his authenticity, it's good you are happy just to treat it as a side trip adventure anyway.
Bus, I was going to say about B500, but according to bf is nearer Bt600+ each way for the better coaches and If you get yourself a City Centre hotel, the City it is quite compact but if you choose your location well there are plenty of shops/market/pubs/restaurants right in the centre. If you have a chance during the day to shop around, go to 'Pratunam' it is a big market-like shopping area where bargains abound! Even here there are many groups of gay lads going around shopping for their Bt199 jeans and Bt99 tee shirts. 'Hundreds' of shop units, decent toilets and Thai food court area. If bf is with me and gay Thai lads look for eye contact or approach, which they do...he gets miffed...."humph!! have khon kaen boys never seen older farang before!!"...'older' thrown in for my benefit.
But Khon Kaen is a great place, bf and I have spent many a great evenings in Live Music Pubs/venues. Places do get going earlier in the evening than Pattaya as most of the main clubs etc In Pattaya don't get filled until the boys have finished their bar work. In Khon Kaen as already indicated there are many students and so plenty of young lads in KK centre. While all places are mixed, there is a huge amount of gay lads in the venues.
Hope you manage to firm up your adventure and enjoy it.
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A new wrinkle, Joe is coming to Thailand to meet his ex-bf and now will travel to KK to meet the mysterious matt. It will never happen.
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Newalaan, I wouldn't dream of going to KK (or anywhere in Thailand) without a reputable guide. Luckily, the bars of Sunee and Boystown are full of reputable guides, one of who's cervix's I will surely emply.
francois, I have heard from my ex for over a week, so am beginning to doubt we'll actually meet up. Still, I think I can do both a reunion with him (if he wants) and a side trip to KK to meet Matt.
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cdnmatt
Besides, nobody is coming to my house. Meeting in town is ok though.
Because of course his WIFE ( and I DO mean female) wife might ask too many questions about who is that man you're giving a beer too and why are you wearing those ridiculous dark glasses now get back in here and hurry up to drive me to the supermarket like you promised earlier and stop fucking about ! :-P
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joe552
Look, Matt has agreed to meet me in Khon Kaen, and has even recommended a hotel there. My trip to Bangkok is looking very doubtful, so I'm happy to take on this little adventure. But as I've said before, details will be discussed via email or PM
Just in case youre stuck or need or want to stay somewhere of your own chosing can I also recommend the http://www.khonkaenorchid.com - a hotel owned by a fellow ( straight ) irish man and his Thai wife who will I'm sure take great care of you and also be able to show you how to get to to restaurant to meet Matt - hell perhaps he'll know him and you can ALL have a great night out together....... :)
PS Matt - just in case your diary is broken on your computer did you not say you were moving away from KK on the 5th of Jan or there abouts or has that been put back now ?
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Nirish guy
Because of course his WIFE ( and I DO mean female) wife might ask too many questions about who is that man you're giving a beer too and why are you wearing those ridiculous dark glasses now get back in here and hurry up to drive me to the supermarket like you promised earlier and stop fucking about ! :-P
NIrish, if I posted this when I'm pissed I'd be mighty proud
Thanks for the hotel recommendation. Seems like my kind of place.
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Best of luck on the meet, Joe.
I really hope it works out, as my posting was the genesis of I will feel very guilty if Matt doesn't turn up on the night!
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Just looking at your options
It is about eight hours on the bus it seems from Pattaya to Khon Khaen, it seems, which is a bit of a pain.
However, another option would be to fly from Utapao airport, just south of Pattaya, to Udon Thani, which is about a hour and a half away from Khon Khaen by road. I just checked and you can get return tickets for €35 on Air Asia at the moment for that trip.
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Best of luck on the meet, Joe.
I really hope it works out, as my posting was the genesis of I will feel very guilty if Matt doesn't turn up on the night!
Where did you get the idea it was your genesis?
A 6 or 8 hour bus trip is okay, as long as it's not night time.By the time you add up the taxi to U Tapao, the flight x 2, and a taxi to KK, a bus is just easier.
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Mmmm ?...we are a little over one day and this thread is already six pages! Clearly in for the long run...maybe a record breaker?
Matt has been put in a difficult position both by Christian and Joe. Maybe unintentionally.
On the one hand he is probably pleased with the attention he is accruing, on the other hand no doubt foresees future problems...
1. If he renegades on the meeting with Joe all credibility is lost and there will be no point in him making further posts on this board. No further attention coming his way. Not good for Matt.
2. If he meets Joe and is genuine then his posts will no longer attract the attention he craves. Why, because we now know he is telling the truth and hardly anyone will remark on it. Not good for Matt.
So Matt how are you going to resolve this dichotomy ?
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Where did you get the idea it was your genesis?
Well, Joe, if you reread your own post 29, it seems as if what I said gave in my previous post gave you the inspiration to go and visit Matt, and prove him true or a liar once and for all.
Apologies if i msiconstrued and was stealing inspirational glory that doesnt belong to me!
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gerefan2
Mmmm ?...we are a little over one day and this thread is already six pages! Clearly in for the long run...maybe a record breaker?
Matt has been put in a difficult position both by Christian and Joe. Maybe unintentionally...
So Matt how are you going to resolve this dichotomy ?
It's a new story arc that's going to garner thousands of views until the time of the meeting, mostly from the cdnmatt doubters - it gives them something to look forward to in the morning. Just look at the amount of debate is has generated. It's like watching Big Brother: will he, won't he, blah, blah. Money can't buy advertising like this.
Dichotomy? Nah. It's good. He's been caught out before and it hasn't ended his posting career, has it? Soap opera watchers have an amazing capacity for suspending disbelief.
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PS Matt - just in case your diary is broken on your computer did you not say you were moving away from KK on the 5th of Jan or there abouts or has that been put back now ?
Yeah, I'll gave to push it back by another month, as we won't be ready in 6 weeks. Originally I was hoping to be gone Dec 5th, so this is the second time I'll have to push it back. Can't keep doing that, or else my husband is going to chew me out to no ned. :) I doubt I'll be here for Newalaan's Feb trip,. but will be here for Joe's Jan trip.
Joe, your life so up to you, but few reasos\ns I recommended that hotel:
- It's good money for value, as I've stayed there lots before. 600/night, clean and modern, good A/C, wi-fi, TV, balcony, mini bar, excellent restaurant downstairs with room service, small mom & pop shop just across the parking lot, you can grab beers from the downstairs fridge any time, day or not, etc.
- It's very easy for Leo and myself to get to you at that hotel. The songtaew from my place stops at Fairy Plaza, and from there it's a 5 minute walk to that hotel.
- 5 minute walk to Fairy, 15 minute walk to Tuckom, plus there's a huge night market right there every night with tons of food, clothes, and other stuff, which might be helpful to you.
- Oh, and I forgot. You mentioned you like younger ones, so good eye candy there for you. They're all too young, but probably pleasing to your eye. There's a large temple just beside that hotel, which acts as basically an orphanage / juvenile deliquent center, and houses tons of kids. Just hang out in front of the mom & pop shop at the table there, have a beer, and enjoy the eye candy as they walk to and from the store in their orange robes.
Anyway, up t you. Keep me updated. Then everyone can finally shut up, and start treating me like a regular member for once.
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cdnmatt
There's a large temple just beside that hotel, which acts as basically an orphanage / juvenile deliquent center, and houses tons of kids. Just hang out in front of the mom & pop shop at the table there, have a beer, and enjoy the eye candy as they walk to and from the store in their orange robes.
Novices go to the store?
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With all due respect. Joe writing that he did or did not meet CDMatt will prove nothing. Some members harbour suspicions that they are in fact, one and the same.
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sglad
Novices go to the store?
Yeah, they're novices, not fully ordained monks. Especially in the evening, once they're let off meditation duty. Then there's a constant stream of them for about 2 or 3 hours.
Then in the yard just behind the store is where the older ones go to sneak a cig, so the teachers can't see them, haha
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Oh, and I forgot. You mentioned you like younger ones, so good eye candy there for you. They're all too young, but probably pleasing to your eye. There's a large temple just beside that hotel, which acts as basically an orphanage / juvenile deliquent center, and houses tons of kids. Just hang out in front of the mom & pop shop at the table there, have a beer, and enjoy the eye candy as they walk to and from the store in their orange robes.
Whoooa ... Matt, you're just plain creepy.
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"... I doubt I'll be here for Newalaan's Feb trip ... "
Well well well. The obfuscation starts now ...
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Smiles
Well well well. The obfuscation starts now ...
No actually I think you'll find it started right back at the below from Matt, but it seems that everyone was just so enthralled by the idea of someone actually meeting Matt that they didn't pick up on it .....
"Again though, just make sure to schedule in advance. I need to ensure Leo is here, and not in Laos, as I need him as a guide to get around town. Going by myself is just a bad idea.
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Smiles
Whoooa ... Matt, you're just plain creepy.
Yeah, I just reread that, and it did come off as quite creepy, didn't it? That was almost Christian creepy. heh, whoops...
Don't worry, nowhere near as bad as that initially sounded.
I have one farang friend in town, and that's actually how I got to know him. Kim and myself lived at that hotel for a few months before ending up in a house. My friend has a ritual of 5pm every day, him and his BF go out somewhere for a few beers. For years, that shop was his drinking hole, because he's good friends with the owners, etc.
That's how I ended up meeting him. Every night he was there having beers, he noticed I had a BF too, so we got to talking, I ended up joining him for beers, etc. He's the only farang friend I have in town, and we're still friends to this day. Seen him last night actually.
But yeah, I no problem admitting that some 15 year olds are good looking. Would never act on it of course, but nothing wrong with appreciating a good looking young man.
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cdnmatt
Seen him last night actually.
Metaphorically speaking of course.....
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@NIrish -- Nope, assuming Joe sticks to his dates, and Leo stays the full 30 days for his current VISA, and the next one, then scheduling works perfectly. Leo will be getting back to KK the same day as Joe's trip starts.
But yes, I do need him here to be able to get into and around town. I can't go by myself. I've tried a couple times, and random strangers just get all worried about me, won't leave me alone, and end up bringing me back home.
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@NIrish -- Nope, assuming Joe sticks to his dates, and Leo stays the full 30 days for his current VISA, and the next one, then scheduling works perfectly. Leo will be getting back to KK the same day as Joe's trip starts.
But yes, I do need him here to be able to get into and around town. I can't go by myself. I've tried a couple times, and random strangers just get all worried about me, won't leave me alone, and end up bringing me back home.
So, two caveats before we start then, ok - and there we thought you were this confident blind man now, whereas it seems not as you've even lost the power of speech it seems it telling people to fuck off and leave you alone when you want to go a place, awww must be tough. You should get Christian to pop up and teach you "fuck off and stop bothering me" in Thai so you can bumble about the place to your hearts content there no matter whether Leo from Lao is there or not.
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Well, what can I say? Going blind is a learning process. And yes, I'e pushed my boundaries, and many times more than I should have. I know what my limits are now.
Does take a good while to fully accept the new limits on your independence, but I think I have it figured now.
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Apparently not if you can't walk down the street alone. Time to get practicing, lots of time to get that sorted for January, no worries.
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Well, I can walk around just fine on my own. Now knowing where the fuck I am is a totally different story. When you're blind, it's not difficult to get yourself lost and disorientated.
And once you get lost, that's it, you're fucked. You could be 10m away from where you need to be, and it doesn't matter. You're simply stuck until a random stranger offers a helping hand. Thankfully, this is Thailand, so that's all around.
Nonetheless, I shouldn't be doing that, and instead need to learn my limits, which I think I have now. I can tool around to the local shops in my area, because I know the area as well as my own house. Anything further by myself though is a bad idea. Going to the market by myself, I have about a 50/50 chance of getting home on my own without help, so I've just learned not to bother trying.
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I think the Board Admin should set up a Special Prosecutor to look into what is beginning to sound like the 'Cndmatt Affair'.
(Just in case anyone thinks of nominating me, forget it. I would immediately recuse myself. Joe would be the man ... he's off to KK anyway.)
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I'm actually really looking forward to what Mueller is going to find. 3 indictments (s) already, and if rumors are true, there's still about another 51 sealed indictments that have yet to be executed. I think there's a whole lot of people in the US government going down over the next few months.
From what I can tell, Mueller isn't fucking around. He's going out of his way to make an example out of the current US administration, just to let every politician in the country know this is simply unacceptable, and the principles and institutions of the US will hold up, no matter what.
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Joe would be the man ... he's off to KK anyway.)
I'm not too sure about that now, especially if he read matt's post above - #71.
The meeting is now predicated on the following 3 caveats, not 2:
1. Leo stays the full 30 days for his current VISA,
2. and the next one,
3. then scheduling works perfectly
But Joe is probably thinking, "Oh, fuck it! I'll go anyway. What could possibly go wrong?"
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sglad
Christian, why is your poll open for so long? Doesn't it give opportunity for 'new' members to appear and corrupt the poll by padding either the 'yes' or 'no' vote? You should also have made the names of the voters visible so that new members or members who infrequently post can be scrutinised.
I know I can be away from the forum for a week, and assume others do the same, so I want to give everyone time to vote. I thought some would vote anonymously, but not publicly.
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No a447, don't worry, this works fine. Joe's given me a two months heads up, so I'll ensure Leo is here. It's just the way it currently works out seems perfectly aligned with the dates would already naturally be here. If needed though, we can change as necessary, and Leo won't mind.