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scottish-guy
Seriously? You cannot comprehend that people may be forced into sex work without them being physically held captive as it were?
Yes, think along being "pressured" by family or friends (peer pressure), acting under duress because they have debts to pay off (high-interest debts from street moneylenders who would have no qualms about breaking your legs), a high-maintenance and/or pregnant girlfriend, living beyond their means (leading to debts), addictions (for eg gambling), etc.
Re: Wild Boars on Ellen Show
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Originally Posted by
sglad
I also agree that most of the guys are there for the easier money; although numbers of new entrants have dropped overall, more and more of those entering the industry have completed secondary school and some have diplomas or degrees. There is alternative employment but I make no judgment as to what profession they choose.
By the way, I'm talking about Thai nationals here.
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oh here we go again...another fake sob story...rather kinky...dad sends son to work in the industry he just retired from...I've done brothers...never dad and son...not at least as far as I can remember..
As for the do gooders...its more about making them feel good by pretending to help the poor too stupid to help themselves locals...
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Like it or not prostitution is actually a way for many people to earn an honest* living. I see the motorbikes they ride, the phones they have, the clothes they wear and I'm pleased that they are reaping the rewards of their labour.
* I'm sure we don't need yet another going over of this and anyone with even a semi functioning level of intelligence knows what I mean.
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oh Lord whats the world coming to...Trump gets voted in...the UK has Brexit and loses against iceland of all places.... and even worse I have to agree with arsenal.....painful reality...
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and yes I too am glad that the cleverer ones are enjoying the fruits of their labour....I certainly dont begrudge them...
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latintopxxx
...As for the do gooders...its more about making them feel good by pretending to help the poor too stupid to help themselves locals...
And as for people who think 'prostitution is a thoroughly good career move, nobody ever gets hurt, the boys all make a fortune for no effort at all and they're all lazy, stupid and inferior to me anyway so they don't deserve any better than to get fucked up the arse by some 70yo for £20' .....what's that all about (other than self-justification)?
Most of you are old enough to be grandfathers (or more!) and I bet some of you actually are. At the very least many of you will be Uncles or Godfathers etc - would you recommend your teenage relatives take it up (and I mean that literally)?
Now, before I get called a "prude" again - of course I have taken advantage of the "facilities" offered by the commercial sex scene in many countries in the world, and I did not feel particularly guilty about that - but equally I don't close my eyes to the fact that the vast majority of prostitutes want out of it, are deeply unhappy about their situation and a great many have multiple addiction, health, and self-esteem problems. Over the years I know of at least 2 or 3 boys who have committed suicide (and I'm sure there's some I don't know about), others have been killed as an indirect result of the lifestyle, others have contracted HIV, and I'd go so far as to say maybe 50% are occasional or habitual drug users. Almost as bad as homosexuals :D
My verdict is that whilst the commercial sex scene may suit us, let's not pretend there aren't victims and there aren't casualties. The very occasional "success story" of a boy or girl who did well and moved on to a successful life outside prostitution does not negate the rest
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guess there is some truth in that...unfortunately...
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scottish-guy
My verdict is that whilst the commercial sex scene may suit us, let's not pretend there aren't victims and there aren't casualties. The very occasional "success story" of a boy or girl who did well and moved on to a successful life outside prostitution does not negate the rest
Very well said, scottish-guy. Great post.
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Originally Posted by
scottish-guy
...would you recommend your teenage relatives take it up (and I mean that literally)?
That's a good question to bring people up short and make them realise that much of what they say about prostitution is self-serving bullshit. Certainly if bullshit could fly there'd be plenty of wing commanders on gay Thailand message boards!
Speaking for myself, I can't honestly say I regret my years of coming to (or living in) Thailand to avail myself of its sex industry. I remember only too well the sort of dark, repressed, sex-starved person I was becoming before I ever came here. Commercial sex might not be ideal but, given the generally relaxed Thai attitude to sex even in the context of prostitution, I gradually learned to be more at ease with my sexuality. I rate that as no small deal. Interactions with prostitutes don't have to be mere meat-for-money affairs, which I think does have a coarsening effect on both parties over time. Without becoming all foolishly lubby-dubby about it (been there, done that!), they can still be mutually respectful at an ordinary human level. I know that's when they are most enjoyable for me. Sometimes it's not like that, there's no rapport at all, and those are the times when I wonder what the hell I am doing here.
There's always a slight nagging unease in my mind about my life in Pattaya and, tellingly, I know I never like to admit to it being my address if I can help it - I prefer to say Jomtien, which many people have never heard of. But still, when I wake up in the morning there's usually a nice little buzz of not knowing what the day will bring, perhaps some exciting adventure with an attractive young man, and that certainly beats the heck out of being back in London and knowing that the highlight of my day will be mowing the lawn.