Re: New trend тАУ White Asians in. White Europeans out.
Of course Asians prefer Asians - why do you think there are so many Asians?
However this article is, generally speaking, irrelevant to the majority of users of this board. The article talks about middle class Thais - not usually seen working in the gogo bars of Pattaya or Bangkok or selling their flesh on Gay Romeo.
Furthermore, if Thai boys who are so desperate to want my money think that bleaching their skin white is an attractive attribute then they are mistaken. Give me someone with a healthy suntan, a nice smile (without teeth braces), a lightly muscled body, no piercings, no tattoos and who is not constantly fiddling with his f***ing phone then I will be happy as a pig in shit.
Thanks to the largely rural, poor economy of this country there are still sufficient numbers of "my type" to satisfy my short-time requirements until I'm in my box. What happens after that and what current trends amongs the upwardly mobile, pretentious, fashion conscious wannabes is of no consequence.
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Originally Posted by cdnmatt
I find this whole concept just incredibly shallow.
I think it's just human nature. People naturally have varying preferences and often these preferences can be influenced by society. The article is talking more about changing preferences than prejudices.
In Asia, the issue of status and money can be a significant factor, as unromantic as it may seem. People are perpetually occupied by financial survival and trying to improve their standard of living. If you're a poor guy and have any sense, you do NOT want to be marrying another poorer person with limited means and struggling the rest of your life. You want someone who, together with youself, can earn and provide a good standard of living to enjoy.
For me, money's not an issue but I have a pretty good lifestyle so it's naturally easier to get along with someone who appreciates and is comfortable with that. If I'm with a working class guy in Bangkok and take him to say, the Sky Bar on top of the Lebua Hotel, he's probably going to feel a bit uncomfortable. If I'm with a middle-class guy, he probably won't bat an eyelid and will really enjoy the experience as I do.
As for skin colour... I don't have the same prejudices many Asians have as I grew up in the West. I like both the lighter skinned Asians and the slightly darker skinned ones. I find the slightly tanned skin some Thais have very sexy. Don't like the really dark ones or Indians. That's just a personal preference. Not a social thing. My parents (of the older generation) on the other hand would probably be slightly uncomfortable if I turned up with a really dark-skinned Asian but that's just them and their long-ingrained prejudices.
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Thank fuck Kim has enough self confidence to not feel the need to change his skin color.
True... People need to learn to judge themselves by their own standards and not others'. My parents always used to stress out that I might feel inferior because I'm an Asian in a "white" country and said all sorts of unnecessary shit to compensate but they never needed to because I never felt that way at all. I was perfectly happy, did fine competing with bigger Aussie boys and barely noticed I was Asian when I was with my Aussie mates.
Re: New trend тАУ White Asians in. White Europeans out.
I would guess it's the hetero farang that need to worry. With China's incredable imbalance of males to females, The Chinese young men will flock to Thailand for the Thai girls. For gay partners they should have no problem finding many desparate guys at home.
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Definitely more a middle class thing. My Thai ex was from a middle class family and he has a office job with middle class friends. All his Thai gay friends prefer asians.
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Originally Posted by Beachlover
The one gogo boy I've slept with told me he prefers Asians over Caucasians and stated a strong preference for non-Thai Asians... similar to the trends in the article.
If you'd slept with a few more, you might have noticed another trend; gogo boys tell their punters what they think they want to hear.
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Originally Posted by Beachlover
The one gogo boy I've slept with told me he prefers Asians over Caucasians and stated a strong preference for non-Thai Asians... similar to the trends in the article.
If you'd slept with a few more, you might have noticed another trend; gogo boys tell their punters what they think they want to hear.
Sorry Beachy but Pink Silom scoes on that one!................... :laughing3: :laughing3:
New balls please!............. :laughing3:
Also, I know for a fact that certain males and females are prepared, especially in Thailand, to forego looks for a good heart and security regards their personal and their immediate family's wellbeing.
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Originally Posted by Beachlover
The one gogo boy I've slept with told me he prefers Asians over Caucasians and stated a strong preference for non-Thai Asians... similar to the trends in the article.
If you'd slept with a few more, you might have noticed another trend; gogo boys tell their punters what they think they want to hear.
Yeah, I already knew that and naturally suspected that might be the case when he first told me. But he's told me enough about why he prefers Asians as long as they are not Thai for me to believe he's not just saying it to please me. He's told me about a lot of the customers and relationships he's had (no discretion there!).
I saw him a few times and we have been distant friends for some time. He left the gogo bar and has opened his own shop now. He's really got no reason to lie to me and has never asked me for anything other than whatever I gave him after taking him off and for advice... so yeah, there was more to it and I didn't take what he said at face value.
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I know for a fact that certain males and females are prepared, especially in Thailand, to forego looks for a good heart and security regards their personal and their immediate family's wellbeing.
Totally agree! That's not going to change.
I know people are naturally defensive but the article is just reporting on a trend. It applies less to the working class/money boy scene and more to the middle-class scene where money is less of a factor (or not significant) in relationships... as it says in the intro.
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It's a good article. It merely reporting trends and focused on a group of Thais (middle class).
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. There are tons of Asian here (of different countries of origin) that are sticky couple in any combination that you can think of in terms of physical appearances (white-asian, dark-asian, clean cut, bear types, etc.) And then, of course, there are the Asian who only prefer non-asian (westerners, african-american, latinos, etc.) In both of these cases, and of those that I know personally, the preference have nothing to do with financial - both parties are well off.
Of course, there are Thais who prefer to be with the "white Westerners". Of course, there are others (westerners or non-westerners) who prefer the "non-white-asian". Whether the choice is because of physical attraction, social economic factors, or combination of both is debatable. I think it is a choice that is influenced by social condition (on both parties).
We, in general, like to think that we are smart, independent thinkers and can make decisions ourselves without anyone telling us what to do. I think, in fact, we are influenced by social media and pop cultures more than we want to accept. For example, think about our choices when we buy clothing.
There is nothing wrong with "white-asian", and their chasers. In fact, I find some of them are quite attractive. However, my attraction scale still tends to lean for the "dark-non-white-asian". That's just me! :)
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It's a good article. It merely reporting trends and focused on a group of Thais (middle class).
Very subjective opinion: I think many or some of the working class aspire to be middle class and imitate their ways to appear so. Hence, the trend might grow in the working class too.
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Of course, there are Thais who prefer to be with the "white Westerners". Of course, there are others (westerners or non-westerners) who prefer the "non-white-asian". Whether the choice is because of physical attraction, social economic factors, or combination of both is debatable. I think it is a choice that is influenced by social condition (on both parties).
I think Asians who grow up outside Asia, like me are less influenced by prejudices present in Asia. Hence, they're more likely to pursue their genuine preference, less influenced by these societal factors. Unlike my parents and most of my relatives who grew up in Asia and can be a bit prejudiced towards darker-skinned Asians and go so far as to feel uncomfortable around Indians.
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The world is shrinking and people of different cultures, religious beliefs, social levels, skin color, etc., have been bonding together in relationships at a growing pace, and this trend has been growing faster as the world gets smaller and won't stop any time soon. The days when an indian would only marry and indian are long behind us.
There are no noticable (or reliable) trends in my opinion where any given culture of people are becoming more attracted to those within their own cultural group, as quite the opposite is ocurring. People of completely different cultures are bonding together at an exponential rate which is a trend which can be observed and measured in all countries - and all cultures.
Regarding Asians and Westerners; I have known Asians who are attracted to other Asians - Asians who prefer Westerners, and any combination thereof. Frankly, my interactions with Asians has always led me to believe that they were much better at selecting a partner because of his or hers substance as a person (internal qualities) - versus Westerners who gravitate more to a persons physical appearance (external qualities). The Thais have extremely good eye sight when it comes to seeing the whole package (internal and external) and I don't think we'll see any reversal of this trend.