Re: why it's never a good idea to piss off a Thai guy !
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Originally Posted by topjohn5
A more interesting question is what nationality would you say it is a good idea to piss off?
Assuming you mean that as a light hearted question as of course it's the individual rather than the Country that dictates how crazy a response you get to pissing them off in the first place - so I was firstly going to go straight for the smallest Country in the world solely on the basis that even if you did piss every one of them off there's not much Country wise they could do about it, until I remembered that the smallest Country in the world is of course Vatican City and I'm guessing that's one group of people that you'd just be better not pissing off at all as you could end up excommunicated ( if you were one of their flock) or if you're more into the De Vinci Code stuff end up hanging from Black Friers Bridge in London or the like ! - so on second thoughts I'll just start proceedings by going for good old safe bet Switzerland as sure whens the last time you heard of them falling out with ANYONE - and even if you did manage to piss them off and get a bad reaction sure the worst might happen is that you could end up with large Toberlone jammed up your ass - which considering this board could well be something that might not be thought of as that bad anyway ! lol
Re: why it's never a good idea to piss off a Thai guy !
i would never deliberately piss of a brazilian...Thais are real easy...I can use and abuse...takes a lot to get them really annoyed..,but Brazilians can be deadly...
Re: why it's never a good idea to piss off a Thai guy !
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Originally Posted by Manforallseasons
After living here for a long time it became apparent that Thais are cowards, after seeing many fights I've never seen them fight 1 on 1.
I had something stolen buy a guy, saw him late at night alone I followed him to a very quiet spot said hi punched him in the face and continued my revenge, he'd just gotten out of the army and was as tall as I am he never lifted a hand......cowards!
I love Thailand but I have to agree with MFAS on this one-I've seen enough myself and trusted friends have likewise seen enough to make me conclude that Thai males, are, in general, dangerous cowards.
They excell in 5 or 6/1 "combat" against hapless Thai victims or better still a drunk, stupid falang.
I observed the thick-set doorman belonging to Hotmail Bar in Soi Twilight slap around, kick and beat a drunk but passive falang to the cheers and claps of his fellow doormen; until finally an old Thaiman came along and put a stop to it.
A single thai boy was corned in the 7Eleven beside Happy Bar, Pattaya, by 5 knife-wielding thugs last year and he was lucky to escape with his life.
And sorry , the list goes on; the jet-ski scams are all carried out by weapon-wielding bullies, almost EVERY vicious assault I have witnessed involved a pack attacking one individual.
I only ever see one-on-one in the Muay Thai boxing rings.
These guys at least do a lot to redeem the name of the Thai male.
Re: why it's never a good idea to piss off a Thai guy !
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Originally Posted by thaiguest
I have to agree with MFAS on this one
Me too. You only have to read the local news media. There are constantly local news reports about a couple of men arguing, then one of them leaves and later returns with several of his friends to attack the lone man he had argued with. Sometimes it's guns. Sometimes it's teenage motorbike gangs. Sometimes it's even ladyboy gangs. The common denominator is several attacking one. That happens significantly more often than one-on-one. Even when it's one-on-one, it's common that one stabbed a defenseless person, shot, attacked with objects such as heavy sticks and clubs, sucker-punched - you name it. What I almost never see is anything about an evenly matched fair fight.
If you are unfortunate enough to witness something like this, how will you respond? It's not an easy decision, especially if it's a split second decision and especially if you're witnessing someone being seriously hurt, but as a farang probably the worst thing you can do is try to personally intervene. There are too many stories about how someone who tried to personally intervene ended up arrested himself, having the fighters turn on him, getting hurt, or even killed. It may also be cowardly, but the safest thing to do is let other Thai witnesses intervene if they so choose (more likely they are enjoying watching the fight rather than intervening) or call the police. Other than that, you're putting yourself at risk - serious risk.
Re: why it's never a good idea to piss off a Thai guy !
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Originally Posted by Gaybutton
What I almost never see is anything about an evenly matched fair fight.
That's because most of these examples aren't about someone who is itching to have a fight, isn't that obvious?
The examples that were mentioned are either criminal gangs that intimidate their victims in order to rob them or guys taking revenge for a perceived loss of face they've suffered. I'd say the former happens all over the world (such as the 7/11 holdup) and the infamous "Thai male" is simply no exception to the rule, but the latter is indeed a trademark trait of (some or even many) Thai males.
From a Western perspective, I think what is most troublesome is the way even harmless conflicts senselessly escalate to deadly situations far too often. In the West, it's probably more likely that a conflict turns into a physical confrontation in the first place, but when that happens, there's usually a limit how far the combatants are willing to go. In Thailand, once it gets physical, there seems to be no limit whatsoever much more often (use of weapons, not stopping even when the opponent is already knocked out). Thai-on-Thai examples are just as shocking as Thai-on-Farang examples are, and also far more common, for example the recent murder of a little boy for damaging a tablet computer. These things happen all the time.
Re: why it's never a good idea to piss off a Thai guy !
I'm amused that British and American residents of Thailand have such low opinions of the Thai male when, for fifty years, our countries have been using overwhelming military force against largely defenceless people often from the safety of a plane six miles up in the sky....or a computer screen thousands of miles away. Are these what GB calls "fair fights"?
Re: why it's never a good idea to piss off a Thai guy !
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Originally Posted by Oliver
Are these what GB calls "fair fights"?
Huh? How does a topic about Thais ganging up on individuals morph into the USA's military tactics and also end up having anything to do with what I think constitutes a fair fight? Since when are military tactics supposed to be fair in the first place? Maybe the next war will have referees. 3 free Howitzer shots for a foul. Whatever you're drinking, please send a case of it to me . . .
Re: why it's never a good idea to piss off a Thai guy !
loss of face, especially publicly is a major issue for Thais that triggers these nuclear type reactions.
Re: why it's never a good idea to piss off a Thai guy !
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Originally Posted by lego
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Originally Posted by Gaybutton
What I almost never see is anything about an evenly matched fair fight.
That's because most of these examples aren't about someone who is itching to have a fight, isn't that obvious?
The examples that were mentioned are either criminal gangs that intimidate their victims in order to rob them or guys taking revenge for a perceived loss of face they've suffered. I'd say the former happens all over the world (such as the 7/11 holdup) and the infamous "Thai male" is simply no exception to the rule, but the latter is indeed a trademark trait of (some or even many) Thai males.
From a Western perspective, I think what is most troublesome is the way even harmless conflicts senselessly escalate to deadly situations far too often. In the West, it's probably more likely that a conflict turns into a physical confrontation in the first place, but when that happens, there's usually a limit how far the combatants are willing to go. In Thailand, once it gets physical, there seems to be no limit whatsoever much more often (use of weapons, not stopping even when the opponent is already knocked out). Thai-on-Thai examples are just as shocking as Thai-on-Farang examples are, and also far more common, for example the recent murder of a little boy for damaging a tablet computer. These things happen all the time.
Gaybutton spoke about apples, you replied with pears-very similar but still off the point.
The issue in question is not MOTIVATION (loss of face etc.) but the MODUS OPERANDI ie NEVER 2 MEN TOE TO TOE instead a cowardly gang attack on one individual.
There was a seemingly equal incident in a Walking St nightclub in 2012/13 whereby 3 thai bouncers chased 3 farangs from the club through one of those seafood restaurants and into the sea. One of the farangs drowned. 3 on 3 ? yes- BUT EACH OF THE THAIS HAD A PISTOL. That explains their gallantry.
Re: why it's never a good idea to piss off a Thai guy !