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Below, I highlight two reports from the Bangkok Post and an updated selected extract from the worldometer website:
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14,000 Thais still stranded abroad
published : 9 Apr 2020 at 16:32
writer: Online Reporters
The government is telling thousands of Thais stranded abroad to be patient, because the government must control the spread of coronavirus disease (Covid-19) to protect the majority of the people before they can return home . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...tranded-abroad
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Thursday: 54 new coronavirus cases, 2 more deaths
• 9 Apr 2020 at 13:54 1 comments
• WRITER: GARY BOYLE
• ORIGINAL SOURCE/WRITER: ONLINE REPORTERS
The government on Thursday reported 54 new local cases of Covid-19, raising the total to 2,423 spread over 67 provinces, and two new deaths - a Thai man, 82, and a Frenchman, 74 - that increased the toll to 32.
Dr Taweesin Visanuyothin, spokesman for the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration, said the Frenchman had no chronic disease. He fell sick on March 27 with a fever, cough, exhaustion and abdominal pain.
The dead Thai man fell sick on March 25 with a fever of 38.5°C and was treated at a hospital in Samut Prakan province. On March 30 he was exhausted, needed a ventilator and became unconscious. He died on Wednesday. . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/learning...eaths#cxrecs_s
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From the Bangkok post article ......The government is telling thousands of Thais stranded abroad to be patient, because the government must control the spread of coronavirus disease (Covid-19) to protect the majority of the people before they can return home .[/url]
Ha so be PATIENT eh ! Never Mind that you're our citizens and yes we'll get you home but we may need to put you in isolation for 14 days, no, more "you just stay wherever you are, let them look after you (or not), spread whatever you might be carrying over THERE not here and hey when we get a chance we'll maybe think of getting you home "somehow" when this thing dies down a bit. How novel.
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And once again, to lighten the mood, I repost images first posted on facebook:
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Doing the maths it's going to take about 1082 days to get evetyone back.
Once again there was no mention of the highly esteemed clients of bar boys being given priority passes or golden queue jumping tickets. And not a word from Amnesty about this. Dereliction of duty.
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As just seen on Richard Barrows Blog - "Bangkok prohibits the sale of alcohol from 10-20 April 2020" ( apparently the translation is "requests" a ban on the sale of......be interesting to see how the "request" is received ! The list Including Chonburi for a 6am - 6pm closure ? is below. I'm not sure what they're expecting such closures to achieve. I guess being Songkran they just want to keep people from congregating in bars, but as seems that carry outs may still be allowed it's all a bit confusing.
But if I needed a final " thank god I didn't fly there after all ( aside from the obvious)" then this would have been it.
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Bangkok 10-20 April
Sakon Nakhon 31 Mar-16 Apr
Chiang Mai 10-20 Apr
Rayong 3-15 Apr
Buriram 2-30 Apr
Mukdahan 6-30 Apr
Suphan Buri 4-30 Apr
Nakhon Pathom 2-30 Apr
Lamphun 1-30 Apr
Chonburi from 6pm-6am
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Below, I highlight two reports from the Bangkok Post, an updated selected extract from the worldometer website and one report from Al-Jazeera:
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Two more deaths, 45 new cases, total 2,518
Nine people in state quarantine test positive for Covid-19
published : 11 Apr 2020 at 13:39
writer: Online Reporters
Nine people in state quarantine, including Thais returned from abroad, are among the 45 new Covid-19 cases reported on Saturday, bringing the total to 2,518 and fatalities to 35 . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...es-total-2-518
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PM condemns curfew breakers
Says violators 'lack social conscience'
published : 11 Apr 2020 at 06:30
newspaper section: News
writer: Post Reporters
Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on Friday slammed more than 6,500 curfew violators for lacking a social conscience but insisted he will not impose any tougher restrictions as current measures in dealing with Covid-19 over the past 100 days are proving effective . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...urfew-breakers
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The World Health Organisation reported on January 13 a case in Thailand, the first outside of China, in a woman who had arrived from Wuhan, yet the recent figures show 35 deaths in Thailand, but a significantly higher number of deaths in the United Kingdom of 8,958 (an increase of 1,861 since I last reported the figures two days ago) despite broadly similar population numbers. Anyone any idea why there should be such a disparity?
Below, I have copied an extract showing the comparable population figures produced by World Population Review:
https://worldpopulationreview.com
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And I thought the following timeline produced by Al-Jazeera very informative and worth sharing:
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Timeline: How the new coronavirus spread
The virus has killed more than 102,000 people and infected at least 1.69 million worldwide.
The World Health Organization (WHO) has declared a pandemic over a new coronavirus which causes an illness known as COVID-19 that has spread to nearly every country.
The disease has killed more than 102,000 people and infected more than 1.69 million, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University . . .
For the full report see: https://www-aljazeera-com.cdn.amppro...061554884.html
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And today I repost the following video, which is doing the rounds on facebook, it was filmed by an angry nurse showing a group of cyclists sitting in a park drinking and flouting the UK social distance rules:
https://youtu.be/mnWnvzmKsuI
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The World Health Organisation reported on January 13 a case in Thailand, the first outside of China, in a woman who had arrived from Wuhan, yet the recent figures show 35 deaths in Thailand, but a significantly higher number of deaths in the United Kingdom of 8,958 (an increase of 1,861 since I last reported the figures two days ago) despite broadly similar population numbers. Anyone any idea why there should be such a disparity?
Below, I have copied an extract showing the comparable population figures produced by World Population Review:
https://worldpopulationreview.com
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And I thought the following timeline produced by Al-Jazeera very informative and worth sharing:
For the full report see:
https://www-aljazeera-com.cdn.amppro...061554884.html
Climate. Hot in Thailand. Also hot in Laos, Vietnam, and Cambodia where NO deaths have been reported.
Regarding Germany and the UK. Let me give you an example.
My friend was taken sick last year and his wife took him to A@E in the London area. They looked at him and sent him home with some tablets.
His wife is German and they returned to Germany the following week where he felt poorly again. This time she took him to a German hospital where, within half an hour, he was diagnosed as having had a Stroke AND a heart attack. He stayed in and made a good recovery. He would probably have died in the UK.
So back to Corona and why the difference between UK figures and German figures. German Efficiency ...just look at their testing figures.
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For many years we've had governments that didn't really care for the NHS....first of all, it was the deranged Blair and his privatisation plans for schools and the NHS and then it was the Conservatives, whose senior figures would never been seen dead in a NHS facility. Apart from for photo opportunities, of course. Any UK citizen will tell you how underfunding has adversely affected our health....try getting a doctor's appointment.
The NHS was one of the great achievements of our parents after the war and the envy of the world.. And it only became a reality due to small number of determined individuals fighting an entrenched and complacent establishment. Not to mention the arrival of West Indian nurses.
Then Blair's Blue Labour arrived and, along with its attempt to re -enact the Crusades of the Middle Ages, stabbed the NHS in its back. It has kept going due to the commitment of its staff, particularly its "immigrant" workers, at all levels. Who, by the way, are dying of the virus at a faster rate than their white colleagues. I wonder why.
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The NHS was one of the great achievements of our parents after the war and the envy of the world.
Do you have any evidence to support the claim that the NHS is or was the envy of the world ? AFAIK, this is just Labour party propaganda, without any evidence to back it up.
I for one wouldn't presume the rest of the world envy the NHS, without checking for evidence of that envy.
Personally, once this Covid outbreak is over, I think we should firstly pay a nice flat rate bonus to NHS front line staff.
Then, conduct a benchmarking exercise into other healthcare systems, to determine what structure is getting the best results.
Obviously the German system, with private hospitals, some choice of healthcare insurance provider, gives the consumer more choice and better results at present. So that's one we should look at.
Singapore also provides healthcare cover for all, at a reasonable price:GDP ratio, so that's another good one to look at.
We should probably check the USA system for what NOT to do, since they have by far the highest ratio of healthcare spending to GDP, with a lower life expectancy than many developed countries.
I certainly don't buy the Labour party propaganda and assume a centrally controlled state healthcare system, with no consumer choice is optimum. Such as structure has failed all over the world and there is no reason to assume UK healthcare is an exception. We get less innovation, less competition & less flexibility.
My local GP persistently turns up 15~20 minutes late for the first appointments of the day, despite having a 500 hp car. If we had proper choice, the customers would take their business elsewhere and management would be forced to act and fix this. As it's a state monopoly, they don't give a ****.
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Oliver2
For many years we've had governments that didn't really care for the NHS....first of all, it was the deranged Blair and his privatisation plans for schools and the NHS and then it was the Conservatives, whose senior figures would never been seen dead in a NHS facility. Apart from for photo opportunities, of course. Any UK citizen will tell you how underfunding has adversely affected our health....try getting a doctor's appointment.
The NHS was one of the great achievements of our parents after the war and the envy of the world.. And it only became a reality due to small number of determined individuals fighting an entrenched and complacent establishment. Not to mention the arrival of West Indian nurses.
Then Blair's Blue Labour arrived and, along with its attempt to re -enact the Crusades of the Middle Ages, stabbed the NHS in its back. It has kept going due to the commitment of its staff, particularly its "immigrant" workers, at all levels. Who, by the way, are dying of the virus at a faster rate than their white colleagues. I wonder why.
you are so correct
But now according to the Tory Government Doctors and Nurses are wonderful people after subjecting them for nearly 10 years with austerity and letting the Banks give their Directors massive bonuses after they caused the recession.
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Below, I highlight two reports from the Bangkok Post, an updated selected extract from the worldometer website, a YouTube video and an article from The Guardian:
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Coronavirus tames Songkran celebration
published : 13 Apr 2020 at 15:32
writer: Post Reporters
Thais celebrated the Lunar New Year in an unusually subdued way as the coronavirus kept them in their homes, without the customary boisterous water splashing and trips upcountry for family reunions . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...an-celebration
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Thailand logs 28 new coronavirus cases, 2 deaths Monday
published : 13 Apr 2020 at 12:37
updated: 13 Apr 2020 at 15:10
writer: Agencies and online reporters
Thailand reported 28 new coronavirus infections on Monday, for a total of 2,579 cases, a health official said. There were 2 more deaths, taking the nation's toll to 40 . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...-deaths-monday
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And below I include a YouTube video showing what appears to be yet another example of heavy handed policing in the UK to enforce the lockdown rules and followed by an article from The Guardian on the same subject:
https://youtu.be/G0u5wvR33YM
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UK lockdown: police apologise after man threatened with pepper spray
The incident in Fallowfield, Manchester, was filmed by neighbours
Mattha Busby
@matthabusby
Sat 11 Apr 2020 17.13 BST Last modified on Sun 12 Apr 2020 15.03 BST
Greater Manchester police have apologised after a man who said he was delivering food to vulnerable family members was arrested and threatened with pepper spray . . .
For the full report see: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...h-pepper-spray
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The following photos show us views of Suvarnabhumi Airport as many of us probably haven’t seen it before as cleaners carry out a deep clean sanitizing regime of the airport. They were posted on facebook by a Thai friend and I understand they were taken from the airport website:
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Are the following two images, shared on facebook by one of my Canadian cousins, showing the lengths a drive thru fast food outlet in Ontario is taking to avoid its staff contracting Covid-19 really likely to happen “only in Canada”?
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And once again, to lighten the mood, I repost an image first posted on facebook:
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And one last image to end on a positive note:
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Below is an article from Pattaya One on Songkran followed by an article from The Pattaya News on proactive testing for Covid-19 :
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Pattaya police step up ‘No Songkran’ enforcement on Thai New Year
by Mark Kelly April 13, 2020
Pattaya police step up ‘No Songkran’ enforcement on Thai New Year
Even though the calendar says it’s the Thai New Year, Pattaya police are out in force to remind folks that, this year, there is no Songkran . . .
For the full report see: https://pattayaone.news/pattaya-poli...thai-new-year/
And from The Pattaya News . . .
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Daily proactive testing for Covid-19 continues in Pattaya and at the Grand Bella Hotel of high risk groups
By Adam Judd Monday, 13 April 2020, 15:23
As previously announced by The Pattaya News and on the Covid-19 Pattaya response Facebook page, Pattaya has begun carrying out roughly two hundred proactive Covid-19 coronavirus tests a day, using a “lamp test” which requires only one test and gives results in 24 hours, on high risk groups in the area at the Grand Bella Hotel. The goal from the Ministry of Public Health currently is to conduct 2,000 random proactive tests on high risk groups in Pattaya to determine if the area has an underlying problem with Covid-19, especially in asymptomatic cases . . .
For the full report see: https://thepattayanews.com/2020/04/1...h-risk-groups/
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Oh dear, not so good news coming out of South Korea, as reported by various news agencies and newspapers. I quote just one from Al Jazeera:
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South Korea: More recovered coronavirus patients test positive
At least 116 people cleared of the virus have tested positive again, raising questions for authorities.
At least 116 people cleared of the coronavirus have tested positive again in South Korea, raising questions for health authorities trying to prevent a second wave of infections.
The number of such relapse cases more than doubled from 51 reported last week, even as officials suggested they would soon look at easing strict recommendations aimed at preventing new outbreaks . . .
For the full report see: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...110301074.html
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Below, I highlight two reports from the Bangkok Post and an updated selected extract from the worldometer website:
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Pattaya mayor poised to impose stricter lockdown
published : 15 Apr 2020 at 07:00
newspaper section: News
writer: Post Reporters
Pattaya will enforce a ramped-up coronavirus lockdown tomorrow with more screening checkpoints being set up in this resort city in Chon Buri.
Pattaya mayor Sonthaya Khunpluem said the number of checkpoints has been increased from five to eight along Sukhumvit Road leading to the city to screen vehicles and people entering.
Non-residents or people not working in Pattaya will be barred entry to the city until the situation returns to normal . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...kdown#cxrecs_s
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30 new Covid-19 cases, 2 more deaths
published : 15 Apr 2020 at 13:39
updated: 15 Apr 2020 at 15:51
writer: Online Reporters
The government on Wednesday reported 30 new local cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19), lifting the total to 2,643 over 68 provinces, and two new deaths, increasing the toll to 43 . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...-2-more-deaths
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And once again, to lighten the mood, I repost images first posted on facebook:
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Below, I highlight one report from the Bangkok Post, an updated selected extract from the worldometer website and a reference to a report in The Guardian dated April 12th, 2020:
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33 new cases, no deaths, total 2,733
65% of all patients have recovered, number still in hospital reaches three-week low
published : 18 Apr 2020 at 12:33
updated: 18 Apr 2020 at 14:04
writer: Online Reporters
The government on Saturday reported 33 new local cases of new coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19) and no deaths, raising total cases to 2,733.
Dr Taweesilp Visanuyothin, spokesman for the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration, said the death toll remained at 47.
To date, 68 of 76 provinces and Bangkok have reported infections. The number of recovered patients is now 1,787, or 65.4% of all cases, he said . . .
For full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...hs-total-2-733
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And I would like to end this post by saying that back on January 22 at post #1; I started this topic after I received an email on ‘Thailand travel advice’ from the British Foreign & Commonwealth Office (FCO) with a link to Public Health England which contained the following reassuring words:
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The risk to the UK population has been assessed as low. This has been raised from very low due to current evidence on the likelihood of cases being imported into this country.
As of today, as noted in the above table, 14,576 of my fellow Brits have died of Covid-19 and, alarmingly, there is press speculation that the UK might end up having Europe’s highest number of deaths due to Covid-19!*
*Link to news story in The Guardian dated April 12th, 2020:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...andemic-expert
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arsenal
A few nights ago, arsenal, I was listening to a radio phone-in show in the UK which was discussing the subject mentioned in your link. Reference was made to reports in the The Washington Post and one report from The Washington Times which I have copied below as I thought they may be of interest to members:
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State Department cables warned of safety issues at Wuhan lab studying bat coronaviruses
By
Josh Rogin
Columnist
April 14, 2020 at 11:00 a.m. GMT+1
Two years before the novel coronavirus pandemic upended the world, U.S. Embassy officials visited a Chinese research facility in the city of Wuhan several times and sent two official warnings back to Washington about inadequate safety at the lab, which was conducting risky studies on coronaviruses from bats. The cables have fueled discussions inside the U.S. government about whether this or another Wuhan lab was the source of the virus — even though conclusive proof has yet to emerge . . .
For the full report see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...coronaviruses/
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Joint Chiefs chairman: U.S. intel investigating whether coronavirus leaked from Wuhan lab
By Bill Gertz - The Washington Times - Tuesday, April 14, 2020
U.S. intelligence agencies are investigating whether the coronavirus may have leaked from a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said Tuesday.
Army Gen. Mark A. Milley, the nation’s most senior military officer, told reporters at the Pentagon the initial assessments indicate the coronavirus causing the global pandemic appears to have been a “natural” event arising from animal-to-human transmission . . .
For the full report see: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ting-whether-/
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And once again, to lighten the mood, I repost images first posted on facebook:
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And, after all the gloomy news, one last image to end on a positive note:
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Hope springs eternal.
I'm already missing the sea and spending time, sometimes an entire day on Jomtian Beach.
However during this lockdown I have all the time to watch all the shows at the Royal Opera House and other grand theatres in Russia and Italy. So many great talents and performances. Thanks to You Tube I get to feast on the Fashion Channel all the great haute couture presentations of exquisite collections by very special and talented designers.
Life is beautiful despite the occasional hiccups.
Guys. Watch what you eat and drink.
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I believe this story has gone global, but I am not sure how many members of the forum outside of the UK have heard of Captain Tom Moore, aged 99 years old, from Yorkshire, England. He pledged to raise £1,000 by walking 100 laps of his garden with the aid of a Zimmer before he turned 100 at the end of the month. At the time of writing this post, he has raised more than £23,000,000 for the UK’s National Health Service charities to help them with the Coronavirus crisis.
As a very special 100th birthday tribute , I along with many people in the UK hope Her Majesty the Queen is advised by her Ministers to confer a knighthood on Tom for his amazing fund raising efforts.
Below, I have copied a very moving video of an artist painting a portrait of Tom with the song, You’ll never walk alone playing in the background and a BBC News link:
https://youtu.be/0Un98gzR2ac
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Coronavirus: Captain Tom Moore passes £23m in NHS fundraising
A 99-year-old war veteran has been left "speechless" after raising more than £23m for the NHS.
Capt Tom Moore originally aimed to raise just £1,000 for NHS Charities Together by completing 100 laps of his garden before his 100th birthday.
The Duke of Cambridge hailed him as a "one-man fundraising machine" . . .
For the full story see: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-52333127
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A remarkable achievement by anyone, let alone someone of that age....
yet it is tragic that the NHS, once the envy of the world, has been so denuded of appropriate financing by successive governments, including that of Lord Blair of Fallujah, that it needs this sort of action.
Meanwhile, buying American nuclear weapons of dubious value doesn't depend on "charity"....the money is always . Our money.
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To be fair though if the British ( and many other) Governments were found to HAVE ordered say 200 extra ventilators that were never going to be needed ( in normal times) or likewise order many tons of random PPE equipment ( other than is already ordered and needed and overstocked already to cope for most known emergency scenarios) they would of course then have been slaughtered too for bad mismanagement of NHS funds.
I do agree they should fund the NHS better of course but I think it's so easy for people ( not you personally Oliver) to bash them about funding over unseen things like this cropping up. No Government in the world seemed particularly "ready" for this equipment wise and to expect our NHS to have enough of "everything?" to deal with "anything" at "all" times seems to be a bit over hopeful and unrealistic perhaps.
That doesn't take away from the great job the NHS and a lot of their staff member HAVE done in coping with the shit storm that did land at their door with little or no notice of course.
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UK government stockpiles containing protective equipment for healthcare workers in the event of a pandemic fell in value by almost 40% over the past six years, the Guardian has found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...0-in-six-years
This reduction in stocks took place took place despite a government drill in 2016 that revealed "gaping holes in Britain’s Emergency Preparedness, Resilience and Response (EPRR) plan." The report arising from that plan was never published.
https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/projects/nhs-in-a-nutshell/nhs-budget
I'm happy to apportion blame when a government has deliberately underfunded the NHS and ignored their own internal warnings of what would happen in this event.
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UK government stockpiles containing protective equipment for healthcare workers in the event of a pandemic fell in value by almost 40% over the past six years, the Guardian has found.
Whilst I'm not disagreeing with you in general Brad the above does state that it's the VALUE of the stock pile that had dropped, not necessarily the quantity - this could of course be down to numerous things such as the value of the pound and the lowering in the world wide price of PPE equipment in general at any given time. its important that figures and "facts" like that aren't skewed for incorrect ( or political) reasons - and I dont mean here on the board I mean in general.
Actually even in that Guardian link you posted there Brad the Government representative said basically the same when saying " the value of the emergency stockpile “does not relate to the volume of its contents”, adding that “through responsible procurement” officials had been “successful in maintaining its stock”.
I have no doubt that they've quietly cut away at that and many other things, of that I have no doubt, but for people to go for the easy low hanging fruit that's so easily batted off by them does actually direct from the actual cuts they probably were making quietly elsewhere that we probably amenity aware off (yet).
PS that second link you posted there Brad is broken.....
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Despite all the whinging amongst the left wing pro EU media (e.g. BBC, Guardian) when the UK did not join the EU ventilator procurement scheme, the UK has not been short of ventilators.
At least 2 EU countries HAVE been short of ventilators.
It's pretty damn difficult to trust the Guardian when they have run all sorts of negative headlines on ventilators, whilst omitting to prominently report that we have done just fine with ventilator supply and the EU has not.
Can you imagine them running the headline "Disastrous EU ventilator shortages have been avoided by UK government" ?
All the left wing ****s employed there just report one side of the story.
Getting PPE is obviously difficult, with every country on the planet requiring above normal levels. All these useless thick journalists complain and whinge, but they don't go out and get objective data on supply & demand, then compare with other countries.
The UK death rate per capita remains below Belgium, Italy, Spain and France. Yet the left wing media only compare the government with Germany, which has done considerably better.
That's the same left wing media have spent years avoiding any positive discussion about the merits of more private sector involvement and consumer choice, as they have in Germany. They expect the government to Germany's results with the same health care structure as in Cuba.
I don't have a high regard for our current crop of politicians (from any party), but the one group of people who would screw it up even more badly are the journalists.
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A friend in Pattaya sent me the following photo and YouTube video link, which I thought were worth sharing:
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goji
It's pretty damn difficult to trust the Guardian .
Perhaps you trust the Telegraph more and their report from two weeks ago on the report from 2016 that revealed the "gaping holes in Britain’s Emergency Preparedness, Resilience and Response (EPRR) plan." The report arising from that plan was never published, and doesn't seem to have been even acted upon.
http://https://www.telegraph.co.uk/n...ed-government/
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That's the same left wing media have spent years avoiding any positive discussion about the merits of more private sector involvement and consumer choice, as they have in Germany. They expect the government to Germany's results with the same health care structure as in Cuba.
If you are equating Cuba's national health service with necessarily poor delivery of healthcare you are wrong, as I found when being treated there.
But don't just take my word for it, have a look at the WHO's ratings. Cuba is rated 36th of 191 in the world. Not far behind Germany in 22, despite their very differing levels of national wealth.
https://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf
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Cuba has a history of supplying medical aid to developing countries across the world as well as maintaining high standards at home, despite the efforts of successive US governments.
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...again...this is why crazy orange man will win again....nutty armchair marxists...
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Socialism is going to be the next trend with or without the Orange Man. He'll be reduced to being a mere crazy scarecrow.
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Lord Buddha Vishna ...I hope u r wrong...
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Socialism is going to be the next trend with or without the Orange Man. He'll be reduced to being a mere crazy scarecrow.
Perhaps. I presume a lot of the voters are too young to remember how bad socialism was in the old "Communist bloc" and too idle to check how it was, or how it currently is in Cuba, Venezuela & North Korea.
Even some of the countries run by "Communist" dictatorships have seen the light and introduced capitalism.
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Cuba and Venezuela? what did they do wrong? apart from free health care, free education and extensive success in fighting poverty. And, I nearly forgot; stopping the US Mafia (official and unofficial) making money out of their resources. The ultimate crime..... they even managed to defeat US invasions and coups.
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Re: Coronavirus - Thailand
"Cuba and Venezuela? what did they do wrong?"
Where to begin?
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Re: Coronavirus - Thailand
Socialism during the John Logie Baird era was held to ransom by the ruling propaganda. Now the media in the internet age is at the mercy of those with special talents and skills who are starting to expose the wicked ways of oligarchs and the ruling class. This is the equaliser that will benefit 99% of the world's population.