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And once again, to lighten the mood, I post below Covid-19 related posts from facebook:
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And for some, perhaps a word of explanation is required for the next photo of the British Royal Family. The gentleman on the left of the photo is the Prince of Wales, the heir to the British throne. He tested positive for Covid-19 on March 25, 2020.
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the Bangkok Post print edition had a good graphic today along with their usual world infections table that provides a more interesting perspective on where Thailand stands in the world league table (sorry about the image quality - it was before my first g&t)
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it may be on their web site as well, I didn't notice it, but I hope they keep updating this
in the print edition classifieds section they are also publishing lots of useful links (almost ads) for food delivery, where to get tested etc (for Bangkok), but their level of serious reporting is still fairly disappointing compared to for example the Sydney Morning Herald, the Guardian or closer to home the Straits Times - though there are obvious reasons for that!
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And perhaps a word of explanation is required for the next photo. During my recent visit to Pattaya I took it for granted that when I said “chips” that my fellow diners understood what I meant. To clarify then, chips = French fries. How ya doin’ françois? ;)
Thank you Mr.Chips or is it Monsieur Pommes Frites? :heart:
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Surely it's Goodbye Mr Chips........
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And perhaps a word of explanation is required for the next photo. During my recent visit to Pattaya I took it for granted that when I said “chips” that my fellow diners understood what I meant. To clarify then, chips = French fries. How ya doin’ françois? ;)
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Thank you Mr.Chips or is it Monsieur Pommes Frites? :heart:
Monsieur Haricot, surely? Now, will the real one please step forward ... :))
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The most depressing news I’ve heard recently was when on Sunday, 29 March 2020 Dr Jenny Harries, the Deputy Chief Medical Officer for England, said at the UK Government's daily Coronavirus briefing that the lockdown in the UK could go on for six months.
But without a vaccine how will they be able to quash the virus or even 'squash' it? And is it likely that the same 6 months restrictions could apply in Thailand?
See the following article published in The Guardian:
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Coronavirus outbreak
UK coronavirus restrictions could last six months – deputy chief medical officer
Dr Jenny Harries says lifting lockdown too soon could risk second wave of infection
Kate Proctor
Sun 29 Mar 2020 18.11 BST Last modified on Sun 29 Mar 2020 18.33 BST
The lockdown in the UK to try to slow the spread of coronavirus could go on for six months and the country may not return to its normal way of life until the autumn, a key government doctor has said . . .
For the full report see: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...edical-officer
And I really liked the following slide, which was posted on facebook. I thought it was worth re-posting here:
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And once again, to lighten the mood, I found the following video, posted on facebook, showing the daughter of a self isolating Welsh pensioner bringing her mother items from the supermarket rather amusing:
https://youtu.be/lGAtG8fKv4I
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bkkguy
the Bangkok Post print edition had a good graphic today along with their usual world infections table that provides a more interesting perspective on where Thailand stands in the world league table (sorry about the image quality - it was before my first g&t)
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it may be on their web site as well, I didn't notice it, but I hope they keep updating this
in the print edition classifieds section they are also publishing lots of useful links (almost ads) for food delivery, where to get tested etc (for Bangkok), but their level of serious reporting is still fairly disappointing compared to for example the
Sydney Morning Herald, the
Guardian or closer to home the
Straits Times - though there are obvious reasons for that!
Seeing the charts using a per capita basis would be helpful.
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Up2U
Seeing the charts using a per capita basis would be helpful.
"per capita" isn't important: graphs show speed of distribution, in each country graphs start from moment of 100 cases, so they show how fast is spreading of virus, how fast 100 turns to 500 and so on... so graphs show how effective are acts of govts
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"per capita" isn't important: graphs show speed of distribution, in each country graphs start from moment of 100 cases, so they show how fast is spreading of virus, how fast 100 turns to 500 and so on... so graphs show how effective are acts of govts
Agreed.
There is also a lag of up to 2 weeks between government action and the daily percentage increase in the number of cases changing. And a much longer lag to the death rate. Unless some miracle cure is invented, it's too late to modify the death rate in ~3 weeks by much.
The population is approximately constant, so it's sufficient to see the number of cases per capita and deaths per capita as a figure, which is on the world meters site.
Click on the header to sort by column.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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the Bangkok Post print edition had a good graphic today along with their usual world infections table that provides a more interesting perspective on where Thailand stands in the world league table (sorry about the image quality - it was before my first g&t)
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it may be on their web site as well, I didn't notice it, but I hope they keep updating this
I hope the Thai authorities will also carry out tests on foreigners currently being held in detention centres and lockups for various offences.
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Today, I highlight one report from the Bangkok Post and one from The Guardian:
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Nationwide night curfew starts Friday
published : 2 Apr 2020 at 18:57
writer: Online Reporters
All people in Thailand are banned from leaving home from 10pm to 4am starting Friday in the government’s latest move to contain the spread of coronavirus.
Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha announced the curfew on Thursday evening.
Exempted from the curfew are medical and banking personnel, as well as logistic workers handling consumer products, farm goods, pharmaceutical products, medical supplies and equipment, newspapers, petrol, postal parcels, or products to be imported or exported. Movements of people to quarantine places are also allowed . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...-starts-friday
And from The Guardian . . .
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Asian countries face possible second wave of coronavirus infections
Daily numbers of confirmed cases rising again as people rush home to beat border closures
Helen Davidson
Thu 2 Apr 2020 08.44 BST Last modified on Thu 2 Apr 2020 11.30 BST
Asian countries that started to feel tentative hope that their responses to the coronavirus pandemic were bearing fruit are now facing possible second waves, brought by a rush of panicked people racing home to beat border closures and quarantine orders.
As daily numbers of confirmed cases start to rise again, and new evidence of asymptomatic cases spark fear of unwitting community transmission, many have now brought in far stricter measures . . .
For the full report see: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rus-infections
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After listening to a radio discussion about the reliability and alleged under-reporting of China’s total number of recorded cases and deaths from Covid-19, I highlight one report from The IndianEXPRESS and one recent report from The Guardian, which some members may not have seen:
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COVID-19: China concealed extent of coronavirus outbreak, US intelligence says
Deborah Birx, the State Department immunologist advising the White House on its response to the outbreak, said Tuesday that China’s public reporting influenced assumptions elsewhere in the world about the nature of the virus.
By: Bloomberg | Published: April 1, 2020 9:45:21 pm
China has concealed the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in its country, under-reporting both total cases and deaths it’s suffered from the disease, the U.S. intelligence community concluded in a classified report to the White House, according to three US officials . . .
For the full report see: https://indianexpress.com/article/wo...-says-6342592/
And from The Guardian . . .
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Senior WHO adviser appears to dodge question on Taiwan's Covid-19 response
Canadian Bruce Aylward, who visited Wuhan in February, appeared to hang up or be cut off when pressed on Taipei’s record
Helen Davidson
@heldavidson
Published on Mon 30 Mar 2020 05.29 BST
A senior advisor at the World Health Organization (WHO) appeared to hang up on a journalist who asked about Taiwan’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, and then did not answer further questions because they had “already talked about China”.
It comes amid continued criticism of the WHO’s approach towards both Taiwan and China. Taiwan has been excluded from participating in the World Health Assembly after heavy lobbying from China, which considers Taiwan part of its territory . . .
For the full report see: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...id-19-response
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And once again, to lighten the mood, I repost images first posted on facebook:
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There will be one hell of a lot of short time boys now switching to being "long time" -certainly between the hours of 10pm and 4am at the least !! :)
Actually I am joking and I hope the guys have the good sense to stay in their (overcrowded and probably equally dangerous !?) room/s and maybe just not bother going out for meets and "risking it" at all, but from the few facebook posts I viewed today today from a few Thai guys I know that doesn't quite seem to be the case unfortunately perhaps and like young people the world over there's no talking to them and they know it all and they're "fine" as it all 'ok for me now, no pob lem" .
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......and like young people the world over there's no talking to them and they know it all and they're "fine" as it all 'ok for me now, no pob lem" .
Many young guys, Thai or otherwise, tend to live for today and think tomorrow will take care of itself.
Here's hoping they get through this ok.
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It's well known that the coronavirus is a nocturnal being only coming out to infect during the hours of darkness. Thus this measure will certainly work.
Ok. I'm being obtuse but this highlights the huge problem that liberal countries are having. Namely that it goes against everything they hold dear to forbid people to leave their homes when they've done nothing wrong.
And it can't be marketed as being for the individuals own safety, people will take the risk. It needs to be made clear that they can infect other people.
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Does the Thai government not understand what an airborne infectious virus is, or what's up?
What the hell is the point of a curfew? Just because the government wants to give the appearance that they're doing something, I'm assuming?
Either lock down or open up. Take your pick, Thailand. Most smart countries have decided lock down, and it does work. Just check out the virus stats for Canada, and we as a country are actually doing quite well. Trudeau our PM asked us politely to all stay home, so we collectively as a country said "no problem boss", we stayed home, and our stats currently look to be on par with Soth Korea.
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Following my reporting yesterday of the announcement on Thursday evening by Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha of the nationwide curfew, I copy below an email I received from the British Foreign & Commonwealth Office (FCO) which summarises the curfew conditions:
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Thailand travel advice
Change made
Latest update: Update on travel restrictions and local measures introduced to limit the spread of the coronavirus (COVID-19) (‘Coronavirus’, ‘Return to the UK’ and ‘Entry requirements’ pages)
Time updated
5:25am, 3 April 2020
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Coronavirus
Social measures
In response to the impact of coronavirus the Thai authorities have introduced measures that place restrictions on public gatherings. From the evening of 3 April 2020, until further notice, a nationwide curfew will be in effect daily from 2200-0400. The only exceptions will be medical personnel, banking sector workers, transportation of essential goods, commuting to and from the airport (with flight tickets), postal delivery, and those with official night shift duty. Violation will lead to two years in jail and/or 40,000 THB fine. You should follow
local guidance.
All malls in Bangkok are closed from 22 March – 30 April. Supermarkets, pharmacies, sections in malls selling foodstuffs and restaurants offering takeaway service remain open, although some restrictions on opening times have been applied. All entertainment venues such as pubs and clubs, and educational institutions are closed, as are popular tourist activities. Other provinces have imposed similar restrictions. Some provinces may impose stricter measures including curfews or lockdowns on certain premises. There are screening checkpoints in place for travel between provinces. An emergency decree came into force on 26 March 2020, initially until 30 April 2020 (subject to extension).
A number of measures have been outlined stating, among other instructions, that individuals must not:
• Enter high risk areas
• Hoard essential goods
• Attend public gatherings
• Propagate false information
The Thai authorities have advised the elderly (over 70 years), children (under 5 years) and those with pre-existing medical conditions (diabetes, hypertension, respiratory diseases, lung diseases) not to leave their home except for essential purposes, such as buying groceries, conducting business transactions, going to a hospital or filing complaints to the police.
The Thai authorities have introduced instructions that all passengers must wear masks on all public transport. Many supermarkets and other businesses that remain open have the same requirement. The Thai Department of Disease Control linked the smoking of cigarettes to the impact of coronavirus. Smoking in public could result in a fine of up to 5,000 Baht. Electronic cigarettes are already illegal in Thailand and their use may incur further fines or imprisonment.
Since 26 March 2020 the Thai authorities have been implementing measures to deter travelling between provinces. A large proportion of internal bus and train routes are closed and there are some restrictions on travel between provinces. If you are taking an internal flight inside Thailand you are required to download the AOT Airports App and complete a T8 Travel Form. A number of regional airports, including Phuket, will soon be temporarily halting flights. There are a number of road checkpoints in place across Thailand so you should carry a passport as proof of identification when in public.
Internal travel is likely to become even more difficult. Further measures may be introduced at any time. All British nationals are advised to follow the advice of the Thai authorities.
Link to FCO website: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...tent=immediate
Link to Coronavirus page: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...nd/coronavirus
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arsenal
It's well known that the coronavirus is a nocturnal being only coming out to infect during the hours of darkness. Thus this measure will certainly work.
well the virus did originate in bats, so ...
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well the virus did originate in bats, so ...
ALLEDGEDLY !.......might have been that pesky Chinese Government if you believe Trump.....or that pesky American Government if you believe the Chinese.....or "maybe" it just came from bats.......my money is on the last one actually just as nature usually has a million better ways of kicking us humans in the balls when we need it than we can ever muster ourselves.
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ALLEDGEDLY !.......
In addition, I've also seen journalists blame pangolins & snakes etc. Usually stating it as a fact, rather than writing "may be from Pangolins, although this is not yet proven".
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What part of GET IN WITH IT don’t they understand from watching the virus devastate other Countries I wonder !!??
I can only be generous and assume that like other Counties this is them gently trying to prepare their people for what’s coming in terms of full lockdown etc, but considering the average Thai won’t need to go out and panic buy toilet rolls as we for some stupid reason felt we needed to here in the West they really should just go straight to it now and never mind waiting the week to impose what HAS to come for the longterm good of their own citizens.
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ALLEDGEDLY !.......might have been that pesky Chinese Government if you believe Trump.....or that pesky American Government if you believe the Chinese.....or
Whatever is the origin of the virus, haven't you noticed that there are far fewer cases in Japan than the USA, which is probably attributed to the way they wear their masks?
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My My you'd almost think all the "idiots" that commented on same earlier in the week about how desolate Pattaya was becoming and how it was facing a torrid time were maybe right after all eh ! :-p
On a serious note the closing of all hotels is one hell of a step up from the night time curfew and even the 24 hour curfew, I'm guessing that's going to give a lot of parang all sorts of major headaches now either trying to find a work around or to find somewhere to relocate to pretty damn quick ! I'm sure the hotels in Bkk will be taking note ( and either wondering will they be next or jacking up their prices accordingly ( or maybe just be glad of the possible new business !)
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And THIS the opening of an official government check down to look for Corona Virus cases - with their excellent social distances skills so evident give it a day or two and they'll not have to look too far !!! But hey it's Thailand, no way the boss is going to pass up his Photo Op to get his picture in the press doing great work for the people. This is one pic perhaps he'll look back on a wish they hadn't perhaps have taken when some of the people in it aren't with us anymore maybe due to their (own) stupidity !
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Within the last few minutes I received an email from the British Foreign & Commonwealth Office (FCO) as follows:
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Thailand travel advice
Change made
The Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand has announced the suspension of incoming international flights from 0001 on 4 April until 2359 on 6 April. Flights en route to Thailand when the change took effect can still land but those on board will be subject to 14 days’ quarantine. (‘Coronavirus’ page)
Time updated
7:42pm, 3 April 2020
An extract from the FCO Coronavirus page for Thailand is quoted below:
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Entry and borders
The Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand has announced the suspension of incoming international flights from 0001 on 4 April until 2359 on 6 April. Flights en route to Thailand when the change took effect can still land but those on board will be subject to 14 days’ quarantine.
An Emergency Decree entered into force on 26 March 2020, initially until 30 April. As part of this, the Thai authorities have barred all foreign nationals from entering or transiting Thailand except in certain limited circumstances. If you do not meet these criteria you should not try to enter or transit Thailand:
Link to FCO website: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-ad...nd/coronavirus
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Further to the article posted by JB about the predictability of a disease emanating from China. An inability to see a wild animal without the need to eat it coupled with the habit of spitting everywhere.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...ics/ar-BBZdrPx
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Live animal markets with various animals in small cages stacked on top of each other doesn't help. So one wild animal might crap directly on top of another wild animal in the cage below. Then they get slaughtered and cut up on the same chopping board.
Of course, even then matters would be much better had the WHO immediately recommended quarantine for all outbound travel from China. They were strongly recommending continuing travel for several weeks.
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Today, I highlight two reports from the Bangkok Post:
Ah! So this was why all passenger flights have been banned from landing in Thailand until April 6th . . .
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Thailand suspends incoming flights
published : 4 Apr 2020 at 07:51
writer: Reuters
All passenger flights have been banned from landing in the country to curb the outbreak of the new coronavirus, the aviation agency said on Friday.
The ban came into effect on Saturday morning and will run until the end of Monday, the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand said in an order published late on Friday.
Anyone arriving on a flight that took off before the order came into effect will need to be quarantined for 14 days upon arrival in Thailand, the order said . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...coming-flights
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Thai returnees told to report for state quarantine
Rule transition, conflicting understanding of 'quarantine' create commotion at Suvarnabhumi
published : 4 Apr 2020 at 15:59
writer: Online Reporters
Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has ordered 152 Thais who landed at Suvarnabhumi airport on Friday afternoon and refused to enter state quarantine to report themselves before 6pm on Saturday so that they can be put into state facilities . . .
For the full report see: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...ate-quarantine
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so I have read the linked msn article and I could not find any reference to "[a]n inability to see a wild animal without the need to eat it" or "the habit of spitting everywhere" - did I miss something or are we just relying on personal prejudices and national stereotypes here?
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Live animal markets with various animals in small cages stacked on top of each other doesn't help. So one wild animal might crap directly on top of another wild animal in the cage below.
sounds a bit like the description of the Chatuchak weekend market in Bangkok in a recent Bangkok Post article
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Of course, even then matters would be much better had the WHO immediately recommended quarantine for all outbound travel from China. They were strongly recommending continuing travel for several weeks.
the Thailand gay forums on topics like this these days are getting more and more like reading the Bangkok Post "Comments" posts on their website, or one of the worse ThaiVisa forums
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Yeah, I'm getting pissed nowadays when people online start blaming China for the virus.
They do know that the Spanish Flu of 1918 originated in Kansas, USA, right?
Once this is all done and over with, lots of countries will have lots to answer for, China included. The US also has lots to answer for though, such as what type of shit show of a response was that? Once this is all over, my guess is Paris Accordd times 1000 will happen.
Nonetheless, leave racism out of it. This isn't the time.
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We Europeans exported syphilis and smallpox to the Americas. The Arawak and Carib population of the "West Indies" was all but wiped-out...helping to provide the need (sic) for the import of African slaves.
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