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Boyztown vs Jomtien vs Sunee in 2023
Hi everyone,
I'm planning my first Thailand trip (flying out in 3 days). I want to spend a week in Pattaya once I've seen Bangkok.
Where should I stay in 2023 Pattaya? I'm interested in both massage and gogo; my preferred 'type' are twinks able to bottom (if that makes any difference).
I saw shameless mack's post from 6 months ago and he said Sunee is completely dead and Boyztown is doing best. Can other people confirm this, or has the situation changed?
I'm currently leaning towards Boyztown if Sunee is dead and Jomtien doesn't have any gogos
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Re: Boyztown vs Jomtien vs Sunee in 2023
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sgvagabond
...Sunee is completely dead and Boyztown is doing best.
In my recent experience, Jomtien brimming with boys and customers (but of little use to me, I prefer gogo bars), Boyztown just gets by (but boys wear too much clothes), and Sunee has Nice Boys and Winner Boys open and boys in underwear on stage. That's were I take all my gogo bar business. I haven't been to any gogo bar other than Nice and Winner since Covid.
"Where to stay in Pattaya" has been discussed ad nauseam on this and other forums.
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Sunee has two gogos and two or three other bars. Hardly any customers. No massage places. All very depressing.
Boyztown has 5 gogos and 4 or 5 other bars. It has two massage places.
Jomtien has no gogos but at the last count 35 bars, all with boys. It also has 3 or 4 massage places which have many boys. The complex is usually stuffed with customers and available boys. Drinks are just about 1/2 to 1/3 the price of BT gogos (depending on which Gogo bar you are in)
Take your choice!
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Thank you both for the updates! If I stayed in Jomtien and wanted to off a lad from Pattaya (short-time) would you generally recommend
* Baht bus back to hotel
* Motorcycle taxi back to hotel
* Rent a room at a short-time hotel
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All of the options are good; depends on your budget. You could also use a Bolt taxi. A short time hotel probably the best.
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When I’m in Pattaya I frequently off boys from gogos in BT and Sunee, usually LT.
Getting back to the Jomtien Complex, where I stay usually involves a motor bike taxi, for a quick 10 minute blast through the traffic. Since I like slim twinks, 3 up on the bike is no problem and costs about 150 baht. This is much better than taking a baht bus, particularly from Sunee. On arrival at the Complex I normally sit in one of the bars having a drink with the boy, before going to the hotel. On one occasion the boy spotted a friend who he used to work with, who joined us in the bar and later in the room for a 3-some.
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...wonder how long it will be before a gogo opens in the Jomtien area....i beliueve its not allowedm in the jomtien complex but what about somewhere close by...
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Jomtien used to have a go go bar years ago.not sure if it was legal.called rock hard boys.It was opposite @Home bar..I dont think the complex needs another..very busy all the time now.
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i was not aware of this...must have been ages ago...like 20 years ago....or very well hidden...
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...and i still think a good gogo with full on big cock and sexual acrobatics would complete the complex...my idea of fun is not looking at old farnags and fully dressed waiters...
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latintopxxx
i was not aware of this...must have been ages ago...like 20 years ago....or very well hidden...
The bar that I think London68 is referring to is probably the one that was opened by the notorious and infamous "Monty". And yes, this was back around 15-16 years ago (rough guess).
Monty, using all the abstract and daring creativity he was famous for, opened the bar (across from where Home Bar sits now) as a combination host bar/ cabaret/gogo. He had a small stage set up in the rear of the bar for small cabaret shows, many of which he starred in himself when he was drunk (just too funny), and another small stage set up in the middle of the bar which was occupied by a small number of gogo dancers (usually between 3 - 6).
The boys on staff were either the slim twink- types, or the freelance boy-next-door types with a variety of sexual identities. They would commonly start off dancing in their undies - and graduated to being totally naked as the night wore on and the tips started flowing.
I'll never forget my first visit to Monty's new bar - for as long as I live:
The first thing I saw when I walked into his new creation (fashioned by a truly untamed Australian Madman) were three old sofas covered with old tattered blankets resembling a hippy hangout back in the 70s - four or five naked boys shuffling around on a small stage just inside the doorway - a half dozen labyboys - complete with painted faces...smeared lipstick and sparkly outfits standing on the rear stage lip-singing a classic from the old "South Pacific" movie "I Gotta Wash That Man Right Out Of My Hair" - while Monty, who was stumbling drunk with a half-empty bottle of 100 Pipers in one hand, was manually flipping the light switch next to the stage on-and off at a rapid pace - all in an attempt to present the illusion that it was a real disco light. This was truly a "Monty Creation", and I knew from the moment I walked in that this was my type of place. Simply a riot!
For those old history buffs out there, Monty owned and/or managed many businesses in-and-around the gay scenes, including the original "Two Guys Guest House" (Soi Yensabai), as well as very first boy bar in Sunee Plaza which sat right next to the old Marina Inn (adjacent from the pioneering "Amigo Pub"). Later, after closing his boy bar, he leased the Marina Inn swimming pool and immediately started advertising "FREE SWIMMING" to any and all boys in town as long as they swam nude. I can't begin to describe how much fun the afternoons were in Sunee during Monty's rule.
It was after Monty's lease ran out at the Marina Pool (along with other complications) that he opened his first bar in Jomtien Complex. The first being a gogo bar which sat right next to the old Two Faces which only lasted a few months because of health reasons - and then onto his next bar...which would be he last... which is the one being described here
RIP Monty. You were truly one-of-a-kind - and sadly missed.
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Dodger, thanks for the memories… yes, Monty was certainly one of one … in addition to as you describe, he was one of the originators of the safe sex promotion group TAKE CARE … I have lived here 22 years, and in that experience, I have seen nobody like Monty.
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I had stay in Agate week ago directly in Complex. Without Chinese groups it is very cheap while still is European 4-stars hotel. My Crystal room was about 36 sq.m, has stairs from room to private veranda above room for sunbathing with table, chairs, shower and 2 sunbeds. Size of veranda is about 30 sq.m.
Unbeatable price 1420 Bahts (1500+ with taxes) for 2 persons. Personal is very gayfriendly (I had stay there with husband).
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I loved Dodger's post.... and it reminded me of another reason why the commercial scene of twenty-plus years ago was so much better, at least for me, than what came later.
Its sheer amateurism.
In the 90s, BBB, Cockpit and Toyboys offered a relatively glitzy, professional go go show which appealed to many. However the smaller bars, some hardly bigger than a living-room, attracted my custom with their "hands-on" dancers, agile, energetic and -yes- sexy. The guys seemed to be enjoying themselves with mates, teasing , laughing and always smiling, rather than trying to look cool and detached. They would often sit next to punters unbidden when their "turn" was over.
For a shy, newly- arrived, recently apparently straight visitor, like me it was just the ticket.....I can tell you, odd as it may seem, that there more than a few falangs in Pattaya with a similar background to mine.
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The bar that I think London68 is referring to is probably the one that was opened by the notorious and infamous "Monty". And yes, this was back around 15-16 years ago (rough guess).
Monty, using all the abstract and daring creativity he was famous for, opened the bar (across from where Home Bar sits now) as a combination host bar/ cabaret/gogo.
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It was after Monty's lease ran out at the Marina Pool (along with other complications) that he opened his first bar in Jomtien Complex. The first being a gogo bar which sat right next to the old Two Faces which only lasted a few months because of health reasons - and then onto his next bar...which would be he last... which is the one being described here
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Coming back to 2023, this seems like a good thread for anyone to add their odds and ends about current venues in Pattaya to, given that the OP is asking about all three areas and there aren't any current trip reports on Pattaya or any other thread that pulls it all together.
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Originally Posted by
latintopxxx
i was not aware of this...must have been ages ago...like 20 years ago....or very well hidden...
There was a thread/flamewar here about it back in in 2007.
https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showt...PEN-IN-JOMTIEN
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Thanks Jay...great pics...brings back so many great memories.
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Memories.... I had my first asian cock in the CASTRO Theater in SF MID 1980'S. Started a asian fetish with me that resulted in a desire to go to Thailand. (after reading different editions of the excellent Men of Thailand books)
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I have an old VHS tape "tours to paradise" that I would love to see again (and you all should see it as well). I would like to digitze it, but hte tape needs to be disassembled lubricated, then digitized.
Has anyone seen it? anyone have it?
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Have the books, tapes & took the tour - Tours to Paradise circa 1991. Package deal: airfare, hotels, transportation, tours & selected meals - about $1500 for two weeks.
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AdamKY
Have the books, tapes & took the tour - Tours to Paradise circa 1991. Package deal: airfare, hotels, transportation, tours & selected meals - about $1500 for two weeks.
I never went. I wanted to but.... any thoughts on your tour? can you digitize the tape. I think it should be loaded on Youtube for posterity.
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maump
I have an old VHS tape "tours to paradise" that I would love to see again (and you all should see it as well). I would like to digitze it, but hte tape needs to be disassembled lubricated, then digitized.
Has anyone seen it? anyone have it?
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With help from a forum member, the tape has has been posted to gay-torrents for download.
https://www.gay-torrents.net/torrent...5aa0f462982078
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i was always told to avoid the "torrents" site as it was supposedly full of malicious bugs
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latintopxxx
i was always told to avoid the "torrents" site as it was supposedly full of malicious bugs
This is a private torrent site that is managed (administered). You must be a member (free). I have never seen a malicious torrent there and I have been downloading obsessively (yes, this is problem habit) for 15 years.
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Paid a visit to the Gogo bars in Sunnee Plaza with a friend.
Winner Boys had four twink types on stage, one of which was a stunner.
The atmosphere was a bit subdued with just one other customer present.
The best looking boy was the most attentive, two others were buried in the phones and a third was acting as the waiter for the bar.
Nice boys was good.
There were about 8 boys present, wearing briefs, some with their cocks out.
There were two other customers there when we visited, one of who was enjoying personal attention in the secluded area behind the bar.
The other customer was a very handsome Chinese student type who was sharing a drink with one of the boys.
The atmosphere was very good with the boys on stage up for games for tips.
We sampled each of the available ones and then sponsored a cum contest for 300 baht.
This turned out to be much more competitive than we expected and climaxed with a photo finish between two of the boys, alas there could only be one winner.
Customer drinks were 200 baht and boy drinks were 300 baht.
A visit to Nice Boys with about 1000 baht for tips is a guaranteed good evening out, in my opinion.
The bars in Sunnee Plaza were mostly closed with just Rainbow Bar and Green Chair Bar remaining open. My companion found the place a bit intimidating due to the unoccupied buildings and the poor street lighting.
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Kenny
Paid a visit to the Gogo bars in Sunnee Plaza with a friend.
Winner Boys had four twink types on stage, one of which was a stunner.
The atmosphere was a bit subdued with just one other customer present.
The best looking boy was the most attentive, two others were buried in the phones and a third was acting as the waiter for the bar.
Nice boys was good.
There were about 8 boys present, wearing briefs, some with their cocks out.
There were two other customers there when we visited, one of who was enjoying personal attention in the secluded area behind the bar.
The other customer was a very handsome Chinese student type who was sharing a drink with one of the boys.
The atmosphere was very good with the boys on stage up for games for tips.
We sampled each of the available ones and then sponsored a cum contest for 300 baht.
This turned out to be much more competitive than we expected and climaxed with a photo finish between two of the boys, alas there could only be one winner.
Customer drinks were 200 baht and boy drinks were 300 baht.
A visit to Nice Boys with about 1000 baht for tips is a guaranteed good evening out, in my opinion.
The bars in Sunnee Plaza were mostly closed with just Rainbow Bar and Green Chair Bar remaining open. My companion found the place a bit intimidating due to the unoccupied buildings and the poor street lighting.
Nice Boys sounds like fun. What's the general type there, boy-wise? Heading soon to Pattaya for the first time ever, and wondering how it stacks up against Patpong.
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moistmango
Heading soon to Pattaya for the first time ever, and wondering how it stacks up against Patpong.
No comparison whatever regarding Sunee.
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gerefan2
No comparison whatever regarding Sunee.
No comparison in a bad way?
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moistmango
No comparison in a bad way?
Yes, in a not a good way, but it does have its charms! Best go-go bar in Pattaya, in my opinion, is ToyBoy in Boyztown although a new go go in Boyztown, Classic Boy, is showing promise. Others are XBoy, Dream Boy and A Bomb.
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Monty's finest hour was when he poisoned Fat Neal with the chicken soup - there should be a statue of him for that alone
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"Nice Boys sounds like fun. What's the general type there, boy-wise?"
Naked, straight, delicious.
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scottish-guy
Monty's finest hour was when he poisoned Fat Neal with the chicken soup - there should be a statue of him for that alone
You are really showing you are one of the oldsters on here with that reminiscence Scottish Guy!
Nice to see you posting again,
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Kenny
Nice boys was good.
Customer drinks were 200 baht and boy drinks were 300 baht.
Outrageous prices in Niceboys nowadays. Second most expensiv agogo in Pattaya now. Only beaten by the chinese touristtrap BBB.
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Wolzek
Outrageous prices in Niceboys nowadays. Second most expensiv agogo in Pattaya now. Only beaten by the chinese touristtrap BBB.
Other go-go bars in Boyztown vicinity are 200+ Baht although BBB is the most expensive.
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In my recent experience, BBB has many boys that purport to serve only female clients, according to the mamma sen. There were also many women in the audience.
Dreamboy had ~20 boys, many seemed to have a beard. This is an interesting departure from many of the bars that feature twinks only.
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The trend for women to off guys from BBB was already apparent on my first visit in 1995. Gay visitors were already complaining about it. That was before the arrival of large numbers of Chinese, of course.
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Didn't jump out of a window, by any chance!
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BBB is a Boy Bar not necessarily a Gay Bar thus both ladies and men can choose who they wish to off.
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..exactly, why discriminate..girls also wanna have fun...gotta hand it to the boys...but guess if hes gay he's not goiung to perform with a girl..which reminds me of a kinky straight dutch colleague I had....he would pick up hookers off walking street but complain they were old and loose and insist on doing anal..was too funny for words..
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I don't mind women in the audience, but when I have to compete with women for straight boys, then I'm out, i.e. I take my business elsewhere. Not an issue in BBB, as their boys are not my type and prices too high for me. That's 3 good reasons for me not to go to BBB.
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...this attraction we have for straight boys....any psycologists in the house that can help explain the phenomena...and before you thonk im being critical...I'm also guilty of this fetish