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July 30th, 2009, 17:49
I have heard (on the grapevine) that as of next Month, Wild West Boys will either return to being a Girlie Bar, or will close completely, lots of rumours about borrowed funny money, not that it's a great loss, couldn't stand the pushy Mamasan, Waiters were lazy and rude, and the Show was very strange, always preferred The Copa around the corner, nice Bar, friendly helpful Staff, and a very enjoyable show.

catawampuscat
July 31st, 2009, 07:44
Wild West Boys was a great go go boy bar and while it had its problems, it was easily one
of the best in the Boyztown area (Pattayaland soi 2)..
I do agree with the pushy mamasans
being a real nuisance and one especially to be avoided like a plague.. It has been a few months
since my last visit and it would indeed be sad, if it folds.

By the way,the first Wild West Boyz was a much smaller bar on the same soi and was converted to
a girlie bar, when WWB moved to the much larger current location..
There were some great boy shows over the years and some of the most stunning, hottest boys
I have ever seen..
I did note a change earlier this year and many of the boys were more fem and
far fewer handsome boy next village types.. The shows had gotten very tepid and flat and I found
one the new boy stars (with a letter instead of a number) to be such a shrill screaming nancyboy that it
ruined the show.. Perhaps the hideous mamasans took over, but still a shame if the rumour which the author of
this thread reported on turns out to be a fact..
I am glad to hear positive news about Copa and it one of the other great go go/show bars in the area..
:cat:

Marsilius
July 31st, 2009, 11:54
I, for one, will shed no tears for a place that encouraged large parties of straights to come in and often be rude - or just to stare disapprovingly - at the gay customers.

x in pattaya
July 31st, 2009, 12:53
I, for one, will shed no tears for a place that encouraged large parties of straights to come in and often be rude - or just to stare disapprovingly - at the gay customers.


Are we not giving a great deal more credence to an unsubstantiated rumour monger than might be justified.

When "information" (especially when it hints at illegal activities) about a local business is provided by a newbie with fewer than, say, 20 posts , it really ought to be treated as suspect and probably designed to further an agenda other than the dissemination of the truth.

The reference to the тАЬgrapevine,тАЭ had it been made by a well known poster would have raised some doubts, but in this case it seems to be begging for suspicion.

While I agree that one of the mamasans is a little over-bearing, s/he тАШs not all that bad. She has deposited herself next to me on a few occasions when I wished she hadnтАЩt, but I just talked to her, thanked her for her suggestions and otherwise ignored her. Hardly something that would make me wish the business collapsed.

The presence (and the attention they seem to receive) of straight gawkers and giggling girls is as likely in Boyztown as it is in WWB тАж one of several reasons why I prefer Sunee and Krazy Dragon to anything in the Pattayaland sois. In fact the problem seemed to be confined to Boyztown until fairly recently. The somewhat dubious reputation that Sunee now has probably offers us some protection from the day-trippers, sex-starved Korean girls & Japanese housewives, and the newbie sex tourists тАж every cloud has its silver lining.

I avoid all shows and would likely find those in WWB nearly as insomnia curing as that in Copa or any of the extravaganzas featuring a certain aging farang decked out in a creation by Omar the Tentmaker with enough reflecting sequins to induce epilepsy in anyone.

BUT I have offтАЩd several very nice boys from Wild West and if in the unlikely event I were of a mind to visit a bar in that vicinity, it would probably be WWB, Cupidol or similar long before I ventured into the Gay Gulag of Boyztown. The only reason I ever would venture in a gogo bar is to find a boy. The mamasans, shows, drink tabs, sound system, whatever donтАЩt matter all that much. 5 sexy boys in a hole-in-the-wall operation still trumps 50 costumed zombies lip-syncing some show tunes.

I still think itтАЩs unfair for those with a personal grudge to smear a local gay business with unsubstantiated rumours that could potentially cause that business to lose customers. Enough people are being hurt by the drop in visitors to Pattaya without fabricating reasons to avoid this place or that place.

MARK
July 31st, 2009, 13:22
OH OH I am all exited :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: rumors or not I would like another 10 boys taking me to my 60 goal :cheers: :cheers: and we only have 18 dancing tables they will all have to sit on the customers knees. :scratch:
But then I will have to keep my promise and let all you randy old customers have a free off on the boys one night. :pale:
THEN I will push for the next goal 100 :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Mark.

x in pattaya
July 31st, 2009, 13:48
OH OH I am all exited :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: rumors or not I would like another 10 boys taking me to my 60 goal :cheers: :cheers: and we only have 18 dancing tables they will all have to sit on the customers knees. :scratch:
But then I will have to keep my promise and let all you randy old customers have a free off on the boys one night. :pale:
THEN I will push for the next goal 100 :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Mark.


In all seriousness, bigger is not necessarily better. The ambiance at KD and the interaction between customers and boys is based on the boys' collective personality, which apparently they pass on to most of the new guys, but I think that would be lost if you got too big. Two bars with 50 each might work, but I think one bar with more than 50 boys will change what makes KD unique and enjoyable.

Patexpat
July 31st, 2009, 14:55
I can confirm that WWBs is on the market ....

x in pattaya
July 31st, 2009, 15:47
I can confirm that WWBs is on the market ....


Sad that a place like that couldn't make it. I hope it doesn't become another girlie bar and that it doesn't mark the start of more closings over on that side of Pattaya Second Rd.

July 31st, 2009, 17:52
Rumors re WWB are unfounded, according to Steve.

July 31st, 2009, 18:03
Rumors re WWB are unfounded, according to Steve.

But...but...Patexpat confirmed it!

Patexpat
July 31st, 2009, 18:12
I repeat, WWB is on the market.

rincondog
August 1st, 2009, 02:50
I repeat, WWB is on the market.

All bars are on the market, if the price is right.

lonelywombat
August 6th, 2009, 07:44
I love this bar and am interested in any update on the sale.

1PR4BKK
August 6th, 2009, 08:09
WWB was one of my favorite Go Go Bars in Pattaya. I hope this is just a rumor indeed. I go there at least once a week when I am in Pattaya.

August 7th, 2009, 21:31
On Tuesday night, 04 August, the Pushy Mamasan told me that the bar might close because of poor business for the past three months. The boss told the staff that there might not be enough money to continue paying the rent and they should be prepared for a possible closure.

1PR4BKK
August 7th, 2009, 22:20
Is the pushy Mamasan name Mama Leila?

I remember she always used to come over to us and talk about her life and the boys and her experience with the boys. It seems that she was always receiving drinks from several of the patron in the bar at the same time (including a drink from me) but never seemed to get drunk...She even tried to sell me a hotplate and microwave...LOL...You can't knock her hustle.

cdnmatt
August 8th, 2009, 07:44
She even tried to sell me a hotplate and microwave...LOL...You can't knock her hustle.

She's even a real-estate agent! She tried selling / renting me a house / condo last night.

A woman of many talents, I guess. :bom:

August 8th, 2009, 13:29
On Tuesday night, 04 August, the Pushy Mamasan told me that the bar might close because of poor business for the past three months. The boss told the staff that there might not be enough money to continue paying the rent and they should be prepared for a possible closure.I'm one of those to blame. I won't be back in our beloved Pattaya until I get a job again and get back on my feet. I wonder how many other posters are in the same boat?

August 8th, 2009, 15:19
Yes, Pushy Mamasan is Mama Leila, aka Noi. Maybe she was trying to sell my house to you. I gave her the details very recently.

gerefan2
August 9th, 2009, 04:35
Is she the one who stinks to the high heaven?

catawampuscat
August 10th, 2009, 01:45
mamasan leila was so bad, that friends of mine wouldn't sit near the door, which
was her area.. Pushy obnoxous,hideous and unfortunately spoke English.. Best to
wave her off and tell her you aren't interested the second she starts up but of
course that is just my humble opinion.. :cat: