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May 24th, 2009, 00:57
Tested out the Google Translate application today. << http://translate.google.com/translate_t# >>
Copied a paragraph from this Forum (originally from the recent post about Phang Na by Trongpai) into the "English to Thai" compose window. Then took the Thai translation and did the opposite, i.e. translated it back into English.
The results were actually pretty good in the first part of the paragraph, but the translation seems to lose it's way in the second half.
The original paragraph was not overly complicated, but by no means a simple one. Some of the phrases used would normally be thought of as for english speakers only, and that kind of writing is often difficult for automatic translators. The translation did not like the words 'ravaged' or 'German'
What do you think?
(1) THE ORIGNAL ENGLISH PARAGRAPH
" ... The lack of tourist is probably due to three reasons. One, it's low season. There was some rain but it does not generally rain all day. Second, although resorts have sprung up like mushrooms over the once tsunami ravaged coast, there's more resorts than demand right now. Finally, Phang-Nga has no night life. Phuket attracts those in search of a party, boys, girls and or just drinking. Phang Nga reminds me more of Hua Hin but less developed and more rugged. It sure attracts the well nourished middle aged German couples. They're harmless enough and don't seem do much more than get picked up at the airport, deposited on a resort and then they do the beach, the pool and eat. We did not notice any PLU but even though these Germans don't smile a lot, some seem to have a frozen frown on their face but we were mostly ignored by them. ... "
(2) THE THAI TRANSLATION
" ... р╕Вр╕▓р╕Фр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕ р╣Ир╕нр╕Зр╣Ар╕Чр╕╡р╣ р╕вр╕зр╕нр╕▓р╕Ир╕Ир╕ р╣Ар╕Щр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Зр╕ Ир╕▓р╕Бр╣Ар╕лр╕Хр╕╕р Ьр╕ер╕кр╕▓р╕б. р╕лр╕Щр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╕Бр╣З р╕Хр╣Ир╕│р╕др╕Фр╕╣. р╕бр╕╡р╕Эр╕Щр╕Ър╕▓р╕ р╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕Ы р╕Бр╕Хр╕┤р╕Эр╕Щр╕Чр╕ р╕Бр╕зр╕▒р╕Щ. р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕кр╕нр╕Зр╣Б р╕бр╣Йр╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕гр╕ р╕кр╕нр╕гр╣Мр╕Чр╣Др╕Ф р╣Йр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Др╕Фр╣Й р╣Ар╕Фр╣Йр╕Зр╣Бр╕ер╣Й ╕зр╕Вр╕╢р╣Йр╕Щр╣Ар╕К ╣Ир╕Щр╣Ар╕лр╣Зр╕Фр╣Ар ╕лр╕Щр╕╖р╕нр╣Ар╕бр╕╖ ╣Ир╕нр╕кр╕╢р╕Щр╕▓р╕б р╕┤ ravaged р╣Вр╕Др╕кр╕Хр╣М, р╕бр╕╡р╕бр╕▓р╕Бр╕Бр╕ р╣Ир╕▓р╕гр╕╡р╕кр╕нр╕ гр╣Мр╕Чр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕ нр╕╕р╕Ыр╕кр╕Зр╕Др╣Мр╣ Гр╕Щр╕Вр╕Ур╕░р╕Щр╕╡р Й. р╕кр╕╕р╕Фр╕Чр╣Йр╕▓р╕ р╕Юр╕▒р╕Зр╕Зр╕▓р╣Др╕ бр╣Ир╕бр╕╡р╕Кр╕╡р╕зр ┤р╕Хр╕Бр╕ер╕▓р╕Зр╕Др ╖р╕Щ. р╕ар╕╣р╣Ар╕Бр╣Зр╕Хр╕Ф р╕╢р╕Зр╕Фр╕╣р╕Фр╕Ър╕ р╕гр╕Фр╕▓р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕ Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Гр╕Щр╕Бр╕▓р гр╕Др╣Йр╕Щр╕лр╕▓р╕Вр нр╕Зр╕ар╕▓р╕Др╕╡р╕Кр ▓р╕в, р╕лр╕Нр╕┤р╕Зр╣Бр╕ер╕ р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╣Ар╕Юр╕ р╕вр╕Зр╕Фр╕╖р╣Ир╕б. р╕Юр╕▒р╕Зр╕Зр╕▓р╣Бр╕ р╣Йр╕Зр╣Ар╕Хр╕╖р╕нр╕ р╕Йр╕▒р╕Щр╕бр╕▓р╕Бр╕ Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕лр╕▒р╕зр лр╕┤р╕Щр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕Щр Йр╕нр╕вр╕Юр╕▒р╕Тр╕Щр ▓р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕нр╕╖р╣Ир ╕Щр╣Жр╕Вр╕гр╕╕р╕Вр╕гр ╕░. р╕бр╕▒р╕Щр╣Бр╕Щр╣Ир╣Г р╕Ир╕Фр╕╢р╕Зр╕Фр╕╣р╕ р╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕б nourished р╕Бр╕ер╕▓р╕Зр╕нр╕▓р╕ р╕╕р╣Ар╕вр╕нр╕гр╕бр╕ р╕Щр╕кр╕▒р╕бр╕бр╕Щр╕ ▓р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Др╕╣р Ир╕гр╕▒р╕Б. р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Ир╕░р╣Др╕ р╣Ир╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕нр╕ р╕Щр╕Хр╕гр╕▓р╕вр╕бр╕ р╕Бр╕Юр╕нр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╣ Др╕бр╣Ир╕Фр╕╣р╣Ар╕лр╕ бр╕╖р╕нр╕Щр╕Чр╕│р╕бр ▓р╕Бр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕гр ▒р╕Ър╣Ар╕ер╕╖р╕нр╕Бр ╕Вр╕╢р╣Йр╕Щр╕Чр╕╡р╣И ╕кр╕Щр╕▓р╕бр╕Ър╕┤р╕Щ р╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╣Гр╕Щр╕г р╕╡р╕кр╕нр╕гр╣Мр╕Чр╣Б р╕ер╣Йр╕зр╕Юр╕зр╕Бр╣А ╕Вр╕▓р╕Бр╕гр╕░р╕Чр╕ р╕Кр╕▓р╕вр╕лр╕▓р╕Фр╣ Бр╕ер╕░р╕кр╕гр╕░р╕зр Ир╕▓р╕вр╕Щр╣Йр╕│р╣Бр ер╕░р╕Бр╕┤р╕Щ. р╣Ар╕гр╕▓р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕Х р╣Йр╕нр╕Зр╣Бр╕Ир╣Йр╕З ╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕Чр╕гр╕▓р╕Ъ ╕ер╣Ир╕зр╕Зр╕лр╕Щр╣Йр ╕▓р╣Гр╕Ф PLU р╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╣Бр╕бр╣Йр╕з ╣Ир╕▓р╣Ар╕лр╕ер╣Ир╕▓ р╕Щр╕╡р╣Й Germans р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕вр╕┤р╣Йр╕б р╕бр╕▓р╕Бр╕Ър╕▓р╕Зр╕ р╕╣р╣Ар╕лр╕бр╕╖р╕нр╕ Щр╕бр╕╡р╣Бр╕Кр╣Ир╣Бр╕ Вр╣Зр╕Зр╕Вр╕бр╕зр╕Фр╕ р╕Щр╣Гр╕Ър╕лр╕Щр╣Йр╕ р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕Юр╕зр╕Бр╣А р╕Вр╕▓р╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕кр╣И р╕зр╕Щр╣Гр╕лр╕Нр╣Ир╕Ч ╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕гр╕▓р╣Др╕Ф р╣Й р╕Цр╕╣р╕Бр╕Ыр╕Пр╕┤р╣ р╕кр╕Шр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Юр╕з р╕Бр╣Ар╕Вр╕▓. ... "
(3) THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION BACK FROM THE THAI VERSION
" ... Lack of travel may be three reasons. One is low season. Some rain but not a normal daily grind. Though the two resorts have sprung up like mushrooms over the tsunami ravaged the Coast, a resort more than demand right now. Nga dead last night. Phuket attracts those in search of partners men, women, or just drink. Nga alert me but less developed than Hua Hin and other rough It sure attracts a middle age nourished German seminar or sweetheart. And is not dangerous enough and do not seem chosen more than the airport Money then they do in the beach resort and swimming pool and eat. We did not notice any PLU, but even if these Germans do not smile much seems certain is frozen frown on their faces, but most of us. They declined. ... "
Copied a paragraph from this Forum (originally from the recent post about Phang Na by Trongpai) into the "English to Thai" compose window. Then took the Thai translation and did the opposite, i.e. translated it back into English.
The results were actually pretty good in the first part of the paragraph, but the translation seems to lose it's way in the second half.
The original paragraph was not overly complicated, but by no means a simple one. Some of the phrases used would normally be thought of as for english speakers only, and that kind of writing is often difficult for automatic translators. The translation did not like the words 'ravaged' or 'German'
What do you think?
(1) THE ORIGNAL ENGLISH PARAGRAPH
" ... The lack of tourist is probably due to three reasons. One, it's low season. There was some rain but it does not generally rain all day. Second, although resorts have sprung up like mushrooms over the once tsunami ravaged coast, there's more resorts than demand right now. Finally, Phang-Nga has no night life. Phuket attracts those in search of a party, boys, girls and or just drinking. Phang Nga reminds me more of Hua Hin but less developed and more rugged. It sure attracts the well nourished middle aged German couples. They're harmless enough and don't seem do much more than get picked up at the airport, deposited on a resort and then they do the beach, the pool and eat. We did not notice any PLU but even though these Germans don't smile a lot, some seem to have a frozen frown on their face but we were mostly ignored by them. ... "
(2) THE THAI TRANSLATION
" ... р╕Вр╕▓р╕Фр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕ р╣Ир╕нр╕Зр╣Ар╕Чр╕╡р╣ р╕вр╕зр╕нр╕▓р╕Ир╕Ир╕ р╣Ар╕Щр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Зр╕ Ир╕▓р╕Бр╣Ар╕лр╕Хр╕╕р Ьр╕ер╕кр╕▓р╕б. р╕лр╕Щр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╕Бр╣З р╕Хр╣Ир╕│р╕др╕Фр╕╣. р╕бр╕╡р╕Эр╕Щр╕Ър╕▓р╕ р╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕Ы р╕Бр╕Хр╕┤р╕Эр╕Щр╕Чр╕ р╕Бр╕зр╕▒р╕Щ. р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕кр╕нр╕Зр╣Б р╕бр╣Йр╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕гр╕ р╕кр╕нр╕гр╣Мр╕Чр╣Др╕Ф р╣Йр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Др╕Фр╣Й р╣Ар╕Фр╣Йр╕Зр╣Бр╕ер╣Й ╕зр╕Вр╕╢р╣Йр╕Щр╣Ар╕К ╣Ир╕Щр╣Ар╕лр╣Зр╕Фр╣Ар ╕лр╕Щр╕╖р╕нр╣Ар╕бр╕╖ ╣Ир╕нр╕кр╕╢р╕Щр╕▓р╕б р╕┤ ravaged р╣Вр╕Др╕кр╕Хр╣М, р╕бр╕╡р╕бр╕▓р╕Бр╕Бр╕ р╣Ир╕▓р╕гр╕╡р╕кр╕нр╕ гр╣Мр╕Чр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕ нр╕╕р╕Ыр╕кр╕Зр╕Др╣Мр╣ Гр╕Щр╕Вр╕Ур╕░р╕Щр╕╡р Й. р╕кр╕╕р╕Фр╕Чр╣Йр╕▓р╕ р╕Юр╕▒р╕Зр╕Зр╕▓р╣Др╕ бр╣Ир╕бр╕╡р╕Кр╕╡р╕зр ┤р╕Хр╕Бр╕ер╕▓р╕Зр╕Др ╖р╕Щ. р╕ар╕╣р╣Ар╕Бр╣Зр╕Хр╕Ф р╕╢р╕Зр╕Фр╕╣р╕Фр╕Ър╕ р╕гр╕Фр╕▓р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕ Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Гр╕Щр╕Бр╕▓р гр╕Др╣Йр╕Щр╕лр╕▓р╕Вр нр╕Зр╕ар╕▓р╕Др╕╡р╕Кр ▓р╕в, р╕лр╕Нр╕┤р╕Зр╣Бр╕ер╕ р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╣Ар╕Юр╕ р╕вр╕Зр╕Фр╕╖р╣Ир╕б. р╕Юр╕▒р╕Зр╕Зр╕▓р╣Бр╕ р╣Йр╕Зр╣Ар╕Хр╕╖р╕нр╕ р╕Йр╕▒р╕Щр╕бр╕▓р╕Бр╕ Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕лр╕▒р╕зр лр╕┤р╕Щр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕Щр Йр╕нр╕вр╕Юр╕▒р╕Тр╕Щр ▓р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕нр╕╖р╣Ир ╕Щр╣Жр╕Вр╕гр╕╕р╕Вр╕гр ╕░. р╕бр╕▒р╕Щр╣Бр╕Щр╣Ир╣Г р╕Ир╕Фр╕╢р╕Зр╕Фр╕╣р╕ р╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕б nourished р╕Бр╕ер╕▓р╕Зр╕нр╕▓р╕ р╕╕р╣Ар╕вр╕нр╕гр╕бр╕ р╕Щр╕кр╕▒р╕бр╕бр╕Щр╕ ▓р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Др╕╣р Ир╕гр╕▒р╕Б. р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Ир╕░р╣Др╕ р╣Ир╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕нр╕ р╕Щр╕Хр╕гр╕▓р╕вр╕бр╕ р╕Бр╕Юр╕нр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╣ Др╕бр╣Ир╕Фр╕╣р╣Ар╕лр╕ бр╕╖р╕нр╕Щр╕Чр╕│р╕бр ▓р╕Бр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕гр ▒р╕Ър╣Ар╕ер╕╖р╕нр╕Бр ╕Вр╕╢р╣Йр╕Щр╕Чр╕╡р╣И ╕кр╕Щр╕▓р╕бр╕Ър╕┤р╕Щ р╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╣Гр╕Щр╕г р╕╡р╕кр╕нр╕гр╣Мр╕Чр╣Б р╕ер╣Йр╕зр╕Юр╕зр╕Бр╣А ╕Вр╕▓р╕Бр╕гр╕░р╕Чр╕ р╕Кр╕▓р╕вр╕лр╕▓р╕Фр╣ Бр╕ер╕░р╕кр╕гр╕░р╕зр Ир╕▓р╕вр╕Щр╣Йр╕│р╣Бр ер╕░р╕Бр╕┤р╕Щ. р╣Ар╕гр╕▓р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕Х р╣Йр╕нр╕Зр╣Бр╕Ир╣Йр╕З ╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕Чр╕гр╕▓р╕Ъ ╕ер╣Ир╕зр╕Зр╕лр╕Щр╣Йр ╕▓р╣Гр╕Ф PLU р╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╣Бр╕бр╣Йр╕з ╣Ир╕▓р╣Ар╕лр╕ер╣Ир╕▓ р╕Щр╕╡р╣Й Germans р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕вр╕┤р╣Йр╕б р╕бр╕▓р╕Бр╕Ър╕▓р╕Зр╕ р╕╣р╣Ар╕лр╕бр╕╖р╕нр╕ Щр╕бр╕╡р╣Бр╕Кр╣Ир╣Бр╕ Вр╣Зр╕Зр╕Вр╕бр╕зр╕Фр╕ р╕Щр╣Гр╕Ър╕лр╕Щр╣Йр╕ р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕Юр╕зр╕Бр╣А р╕Вр╕▓р╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕кр╣И р╕зр╕Щр╣Гр╕лр╕Нр╣Ир╕Ч ╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕гр╕▓р╣Др╕Ф р╣Й р╕Цр╕╣р╕Бр╕Ыр╕Пр╕┤р╣ р╕кр╕Шр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Юр╕з р╕Бр╣Ар╕Вр╕▓. ... "
(3) THE ENGLISH TRANSLATION BACK FROM THE THAI VERSION
" ... Lack of travel may be three reasons. One is low season. Some rain but not a normal daily grind. Though the two resorts have sprung up like mushrooms over the tsunami ravaged the Coast, a resort more than demand right now. Nga dead last night. Phuket attracts those in search of partners men, women, or just drink. Nga alert me but less developed than Hua Hin and other rough It sure attracts a middle age nourished German seminar or sweetheart. And is not dangerous enough and do not seem chosen more than the airport Money then they do in the beach resort and swimming pool and eat. We did not notice any PLU, but even if these Germans do not smile much seems certain is frozen frown on their faces, but most of us. They declined. ... "