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joe552
February 17th, 2009, 01:13
Any info/advice on the 'pay for play' scene in Rio? Am aware that it's probably a lot riskier than Pattaya, but might be tempted.

February 17th, 2009, 02:47
I was thinking of visiting Brazil too, so have been checking some websites.

Rent boy saunas seem to be very common. Apparently, they ask for 80 real & you are expected to haggle down to 50.

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Have not found any well supported forums yet.

February 19th, 2009, 14:35
I was in Rio for ten days about four years ago. Only info I could find before trip was some lousy web sites but reference to saunas had peaked my interest. While there the weather happened to be lousy which ruined the famed beaches and where the boys for rent should be available.

Saunas were small converted houses but in all cases were clean and bedrooms full size with double or larger bed. After entering your surrounded by boys in towels as you enter a bar lounge area (30 to 40 boys and only a handful of half a dozen customers). Handsome boys were everywhere and the ones with huge endowements were showing them off as soon as they could get your attention. Very casual scene in the bar/lounge area with all boys trying to get your eye contact without undue pressure. Not the pushy mamasan scene and in fact you could have easily handled every boys dick in the place without any need to tip. Buy him a beer.

Hours were early from about 1600 to 2000. Seems like boys got off work and came here before evening activities. Boys were far more masculine than our normal or average Thai boy. For the most part very handsome and I was hard pressed to make a decision on which one to take. Beer was very cheap as I remember only a couple US dollars. Buying a few boys beers surrounded you much like Krazy Dragon with towels off begging for your attention.

Every experience I had found the boy to meet up to the true romantic Latin Lover mystic. Beautiful lovemakers. Boys seem to really specialize in making you feel good with kissing, biting the ears, and all sorts of oral lovemaking. Even if boys are straight they are damn good at being a Latin Lover. Far more agressive than most of the Thai boys. A boy that was bigger than I thought I could take, begged me to at least let him massage me and see how good he could make me feel. He was so good he made me beg for him to do me and somehow he got it all in and it felt right. He was the biggest I had ever taken and had extremely skilled technique to make it work.

I remember the price being acceptable and maybe as low as $30 or $50. Pre-agreed upon price with boy while in the bar/lounge and no "up to you" or calling it a tip.

It seemed most boys had straight or at least regular evening lives and only came in for the business clients after work. I left one evening before 8:00PM as half a dozen working boys were leaving. This sauna was half a dozen blocks from the business area so they welcomed me into the walking group with them. When stopping at food venders they made me feel welcome by sharing food and lots of laughter.

Further along the boy that had screwed me the night before met up with his wife and bambino kid. He introduced me and I believe he explained to his wife that I had been his trick last night and thus the money for the family. She was very pleasant to a very uncomfortable me. She may have even thanked me. As the boys and I went our separate ways they each wished me well and made me promise to come back. They were having a good time with lots of laughter.

BIG PROBLEM are the Brazil hotels. I had made friends with a boy and thought I could get him into my room. He was sure we could not and he was right. I tried bribing security and elevator boy but no luck. If I go back I will try to rent a condo with no regulations.

DISCO. I used the saunas so much I only made it to the big gay disco my last two nights. Acres and acres of masculine boys with their shirts off. Dancing reminded me of the big California or New York disco bars in the 70's. Some of the most gorgeous boys I had seen in a lifetime. When leaving a young movie star beauty begged me to take him. After my last attempt to get a boy to my room I was not about to try again. I entered a taxi saying no to possibly the best experience of my life. I'm sure he would have known of a short time hotel room and as long as I live I will never forget his looks with his unbuttoned shirt and face beautiful. Never had I seen an adonis like him. Oh, stupid me.

Brazil vs Thailand. Absolutely cannot compare the two. Scene in LOS is like no other in the world. Boys in Brazil are like no other. The scene in Brazil sucks with no gay hotel (none that I knew of). I would go back to Brazil in a heart beat if it didn't mean giving up a trip to LOS.

My heart is forever in Thailand, but the boys of Brazil will always be on top.

joe552
February 20th, 2009, 05:28
thanks splash4, that's exactly the kind of reply i was hoping for. my heart is still in LoS, and i still intend to live there someday, but i feel i need a change this year, and rio is it. i maybe won't feel as comfortable with the boys as i do in pattaya, but who knows? life is all about risk.

February 23rd, 2009, 05:23
Any info/advice on the 'pay for play' scene in Rio? Am aware that it's probably a lot riskier than Pattaya, but might be tempted.

Hi there. As someone previously posted, try our new website/forum on Brazil.
We are a new website, but as we actually live here, the advice is from locals.. Also, please join our forum to share advice and travel experiences in gay Brazil.. We do also have some great advice regarding the rentboy scene here.

The best way to have a 'well-supported' forum is to join it and 'well-support' it guys... :bounce:

Brazil is truly a special place with truly special boys... Enjoy and let's share.


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RonanTheBarbarian
February 24th, 2009, 04:16
A good place to ask any questions on Brazil is the forum section of an escort-review site called daddysreviews.com

Their forum page is here: http://mc.daddysreviews.com/

Go to log on and go to the section entitled "Escorts South of the USA".

I am sure somebody there would give you the name of a few joiner-friendly hotels.

Art
April 27th, 2009, 23:59
Hi there,
as nobody previously posted, Stephen O. Murray summarizes his interpretation of Latin American male-male sexuality in the chapter тАЬActivos and Pasivos: Simplistic Cultural Norms and Not-So-Simple Homosexual Conduct in Latin AmericaтАЭ (266-275; plus 408-412) of his highly entertaining classic "Homosexualities".

And he is no prude, just look at the title of one of his articles: тАЬSleeping with natives as a source of data.тАЭ (Publications of the Society of Lesbian and Gay Anthropologists Newsletter 13:49-51.)

This source looks familiar ...

Provisions for the journey to Brazil.




The typological system is very simple: there are activos and pasivos, that is, males who want to be penetrated by males and males who want to penetrateтАФpreferably to penetrate females, but willing to use substitutes. (267)

Generally, in contemporary cities, there are not many ways to demonstrate тАЬtraditionalтАЭ masculinity. Foreign observers may mistakenly interpret flamboyant verbal sexual posturing (piropos) as indicating that Latino men are hypersexual. It is easy to play the role of a lobo listo (literally, ready wolf, listo can also mean тАЬcrafty,тАЭ which in this context also means able to take orifices as prey) when few demands are likely to be made: the Latino male is rarely if ever going to be pressed to demonstrate that he really is readyтАФnot least because there are few places to have sex in private. (269-29)

тАЬThe sexual problem of the young men is acute. TheyтАЩre poor, and love is expensive. They donтАЩt have enough money to pay for a girl [still less to marry and set up a household], so they turn to homosexuals. But even though they come, and feel pleasure and normalize the functioning of their glands, they want money.тАЭ (268)

Accepting money for sex does not make them prostitutes, and projections of what I call the тАЬblind phallus fantasyтАЭ is undoubtedly flattering to young men who are insecure about their masculinityтАФas to some extent is any Latino male who has not fathered children. (268)

Payment is proof that the homosexual, not the hombre, is the one who wants the sex moreтАФenough to pay for it. (270) In the dominant cultureтАЩs view, it is the latter [homosexuales] who are hungry to have their orifices filledтАФso eager that it does not matter how roughly or how quickly discharge and withdrawal occur. (271) The macho should be rewarded, and the homosexual should not expect (and certainly should not demand) affection, any technical excellence, or any consideration of the pleasures beyond having an often quickly ejaculating penis roughly thrust into him. (271)

Just as it takes a slave to be a master, the pasivo invents, persuades, polishes and maintains his [тАж] phantasy of the тАЬreal man.тАЭ (271/272) There is a widespread contempt for two pasivos going to bed. In that sex is believed to require a phallus (pasivos may have penises, but not phalluses тАж) the same тАЬWhat could they possibly do?тАЭ question arises that is asked about two women having sex with each other. (272-35)

Many of those worshipped as hypermasculine by males they penetrate come across as being ashamed to let it be known that they have sex with males, while their purportedly тАЬdishonoredтАЭ enthusiastically discuss what should [тАж] shame them. Abashed insertors and proud receptors is what one sees on the ethnographic ground [тАж] of males who have sex with males, not the тАЬsubject honor, object shameтАЭ deducible from the dominant cultureтАЩs values. (272)

Davey612
September 5th, 2009, 04:35
And if you combine Brazil and Japan, you may get this:

[youtube:12wkgxg2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnkkF9jgktk[/youtube:12wkgxg2]

bing
September 17th, 2009, 03:28
Hi - Someone mentioned about bringing guys back to your hotel in Rio. It can be a real problem. Picking your hotel is very importnat, by the beach is what I chose both times I was there. As I recall the money rate fluctuated a lot. The boys were fine and easy to spot. They can take you to their place or agree on a sauna. I found the beach by the Palace to be ground zero for me. Even had a few drinks at the bar there but would not stay their as it out of my price range. Also eating is a big thing in Rio. They do love lots of red meat. The bars can be a bit wild in the late evening, but everything is late evening in Rio. I recall a few of the places did not open till midnight. Have a good time. I can not comment too much on the size thing as I don't recall seeing any extreme hoses. Now Egypt is different, Prize equipment is seen at the saunas and if you have blue eyes you will be sought after. Seems they dont get a lot of blue eyes to look at.

Beachlover
September 17th, 2009, 19:19
Hey Bing, what hotels would you recommend in Rio then? Since you picked them well.

What sort of places did you pick up at? I like to go out to a club... have a great night... and go home with a cutie :-) ... really easy to do this in Thailand. What about Rio?

September 17th, 2009, 19:23
With all the hot ethnic Japanese Brazilians out there, are there many/any working these saunas?