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a447

February 3rd, 2009, 14:48

Just wondering if these 2 bars are still going strong. Anyone been there lately?? Are the guys all still over 18, or have they put everyone in danger by hiring under 18s? I had some great times there in the past but at one stage thought the guys were looking a bit young. Are there any other bars open in the afternoon, besides GC??

aussie_

February 3rd, 2009, 15:34

I visited both bars two weeks ago. All the six guys in NB looked about 19 to 24 yo - there were four of them servicing another customer both times that I went to NB so I just had a drink and left to see the other bars. There was a very hot 19yo Isaan looking boy that I wanted to see at NB who was very busy on each visit.

Golden Cock had some good looking guys and I took a 21yo upstairs for some fun. All the guys looked legal age there.

The other bars in the soi:

Super A seems to be running 24 hours and they have a tout sitting on the corner most of the day looking for customers. The guys there looked legal age and above and I spent some time with a tall, slender Isaan boy who was a lot of fun in their upstairs room. Don't recommend the rooms too much as they only have one with a shower. I was in a hurry so it suited me at the time.

Solid Bar had a good selection of hotties just above legal age and the bar was full of customers when i visited just for a drink.

There were some very hot guys were in the TT Pub just down from Solid on the way to Tawan. I offed two guys on different nights, 20yo and 18yo and they were both excellent. The management were not pushy, good to chat with and apparently the place turns into a disco after 1am staying open till very late. i will be back there again next time I am in Bangkok to check out what happens at the disco.

yedo111

February 5th, 2009, 08:07

I was surprised when I went to Super A , they had younger boys working there 6 months ago.

So I didnt stay there too long.

October 16th, 2009, 02:51

I was surprised when I went to Super A , they had younger boys working there 6 months ago.

So I didnt stay there too long.

Let me guess - you were so shocked it's taken you 6 months to be able to speak of it?

And yes, it's taken me 8 months to notice your post.

:hello1:

TrongpaiExpat

October 16th, 2009, 12:55

There's also one called 'Twinks', same side as Golden Cock. Opens at 1300 but slim picking until latter. It used to be a bathroom supply and fixture showroom and there's still some stuff left over. Very nice manager but the lady boy who subs for him sometimes is a little strange. In spite of the suggestive name, all are of age, all types. It's also a message venue, 500B for massage (nude) and room, min suggested tip 1000B and drinks at 100B. I don't know the off fee. All the boys in street clothes.

There's another sign above Twinks, Complex something, left over from a closed business.

Unless your going to do it right in the bar, I don't recommend using any of the short time rooms in this area, no AC, no water and not clean. Go over to BBB Inn on Rama 4, 500B for 3 hours.

searcher

October 16th, 2009, 15:44

Twinks: I was at this place in March (early afternoon), just for a drink. There was no ladyboy at the reception but a friendly guy in his earl 20ies. The place was run down then and dirty. I talked to the old guy who runs that place and he told me that the boys were of legal age. I simply laughed at him and pointed at 2 boys who were obviously underage. He had to admit then that they were just 16 and 17 but they "would only do massage". Good luck for every body having a "massage", given by a 16yo in the nude and police comes in. Never been there again.

pong

October 16th, 2009, 17:34

From what I can recall GC never ever had too-young lads. In fact-they seem to refresh their staff far too late so that they seem to grow up with that bar for years and more. Have they by now -finally- repaired the sofa's or even renewed them? The skills of NB's seem to be limited to the in-house service-read a funny report of someone who offed what seemed a hottie from there on another site.
TT-mentioned above-has closed after just a few weeks. Twinks has to several other posters mentioned they could ''organise something'' if wanted-surroundings less as salubrious say all. I think this used to be the old bar opposite Twilight (sorry-forgot that name already-it used to be BKK's best known...) -failed there-and then had several other venues-all also failing in a short time.

October 16th, 2009, 17:50

Twinks is this pits. The Mamasan is aggressive and has horrid body odor, the staff are not attractive, and the surroundings are lugubrious. Only if you must.

Alaan

October 16th, 2009, 20:36

After a long walk round some of the Silom shops I passed Twinks on my way back to Tarntawan about 8pm.....it didn't look much of a place but decided a cool beer and a few minutes of aircon might be ok. It was the mamsan who brought me in, but it had to go see to something so a very affible waiter from outside supplied the info...i said i was in-by to check the place out and a cool beer...no massage boy today.....and he was ok...no pressure....

There was already another customer in the next booth table with what looked a fairly young boy, but he may well have been of age....and the waiter when describing the boys on offer pressed the point that they have many young boys.... so although the guys hanging around were of age it seemed to me that younger could be offered...which, i'm afraid, puts it into the dodgy catagory for me.It may well be they just specialise in young looking boys of legal age.....but i would be doubtful.

One boy he did introduce to me as one of these young boys was indeed 18...he did have original id..he took the card over and allowed me to inspect it closely...the boy from issan was fairly new and very very cute indeed. I asked if they have a photo album of all the boys...but no such handy selling tool available.

Twinky boys of legal age are certainly my cup of tea...but i dont think i'll return for an in-house massage due to the fact that i'm fairly sure under 18s could well be available here and as Searcher commented.......not a great senario to be part of if there is a visit from the BIB.

The only business i might be prepared to consider with them......might be a hotel visit if staying at the Tarntawan......as it is known just how strict they are on the age thing...and when i did mention i stayed there he did say they had boys who would be able to visit there no problem (and previously had) with all the correct i.d.

TrongpaiExpat

October 17th, 2009, 01:35

I am not sure where all this underage speculation comes up with Twinks Bar, other than it's just the suggestive name. It is uninformed speculation, nothing more. I though discussions about underage bar workers in any form was not allowed in the posting guidelines?

searcher

October 17th, 2009, 02:16

"Underage speculation" ?? The "manager" ADMITTED that the boys were 16 /17 y. old. His excuse was that the boys would only do massage. So I did not speculate, just report about facts.

Alaan

October 17th, 2009, 04:09

Now let me think TrongpaiExpat......just where could 'all this underage speculation' have come from?

How much more 'informed' do you need to be than coming ,as it did, directly from the Twinks managers own mouth?....as Searcher confirmed......

And here is some more 'uninformed speculation'......which i didn't mention in my post because i gave no opportunity for the facts to be presented before me at the time.......was that on introducing the young looking 18 year old issan lad and noting my disinterest in having a liason there and then........the waiter/mamsan proceeded to advise me younger boys could be made available if i was willing to wait or advise a time to return....

Facts...nothing more! This from someone who joins in a discussion about potential underage guys then proceeds to advise us that we may be breeching posting guidlines.....after having just done so 'in any form' himself ......clever.

TrongpaiExpat

October 17th, 2009, 13:07

OK, you guys. I really don't want to have my way with a cute cuddly underage age boy, so please tell me where I will NOT find them. I sure would NOT want to run into such a thing, so please list all the places where I might find them so I DON"T go there. Also, what's the best time not to find them in the bar, so of course I DON"T show up at that time. Also don't restrict your comments to just Bangkok let me know about Pattaya and Chiang Mai too. Got any photos?

Alaan

October 17th, 2009, 17:03

October 17th, 2009, 17:05

TrongpaiExpat

October 17th, 2009, 18:59

TrongpaiExpat what ARE u blabbering on about now? all here who have given comments on a venue called Twinks have done so based on factual experiences...no hidden agenda.... no bullshit..... why do you think we need to be offering 'uninformed speculation' for what reason?

No wonder you have racked up over 2000 posts...... there are a stack of regular 'experts' on this board such as yourself who leap in with posts of no value whatsoever to a thread..... and so what exactly is the point of your latest childish rant? There now, a chance for you to rack up yet another post if you must.

Sorry, I guess my point went over your head. Anyway, lets not get personal. Lets just end this with me acknowledging your point of view and your interpretations of your one visit to this venue on your holiday and my 10 or so visits over a year as being different.

And, your right I am posting too much, I need to cut down or better yet just go cold turkey.

Alaan

October 17th, 2009, 20:34

Hmmm...Yes Trongpai.... the deep founded thought put into your reply went right over my head...(stating that your clumsy attempt at whatever is was you were trying to say went over my head is not getting personal?) ....well i did not take it personally......so maybe now you might just want to sensibly let us know exactly what you mean to say? It's alot easier that way.

One visit or 100 visits..........if the facts present themselves as they truley did then my ONE visit and Searchers ONE visit was obviously enough for US not to be tempted to go back inside for a massage there......you are perfectly entitled to harbour your own opinion based YOUR expat experiences....the insinuation you make that your Thai residence and many visits to the venue somehow allow you a more informed opinion does not in any way alter the facts as we experienced them......dont kid yourself into believing that just because you actually live in Thailand full time arms you with any more common sense or awareness regarding an experience at a Thai venue than any other who might be a first timer, regular visitor or multiple annual visitor.

Nothing here personal either.......but i'm certainly not going to let someone rubbish experienced facts as simply being 'uninformed speculation'.

Brad the Impala

October 17th, 2009, 21:47

the insinuation you make that your Thai residence and many visits to the venue somehow allow you a more informed opinion does not in any way alter the facts as we experienced them......dont kid yourself into believing that just because you actually live in Thailand full time arms you with any more common sense or awareness regarding an experience at a Thai venue than any other who might be a first timer, regular visitor or multiple annual visitor.

Of course if Mr A has attended a venue once and observed X, and Mr B has visited ten times and never observed X, then, on the basis of probability, X is not a regular occurrence, and the situation observed by Mr A may have been an aberration. That has nothing to do with the fact of either being resident or otherwise, unless they were resident in the particular venue. I am much more interested in why Mr T would visit on some many occasions, especially given the description of said venue by Mr BB.

Trongpai has provided many excellent reports over the years, particularly thinking of the up country trips, and am not sure why his comments provided such a sharp response from Alaan, who has also provided interesting reports after his visits.

searcher

October 17th, 2009, 22:58

One ...final...comment: I have lived in BKK for 5 months this year and I walked past TWINKS quite a few times. I nearly always saw boys of.. hm.. "questionable" age sitting outside. One day I was accompanied by my Thai mate and I asked him about his opinion about the age of some boys. His answer was a big smile and loud giggling.

TrongpaiExpat

October 17th, 2009, 23:18

I am much more interested in why Mr T would visit on some many occasions

OK, since you asked. I dropped in a few times just to see the place and have a drink, look over the boys and for one reason or another did not select one for a massage. Another two times I was with a farang that wanted to go there, I came along, translated a little for the farang and again did not get a massage. So, after four or so visits, I finally went back alone and selected someone, it worked out and I went back looking for the same boy and he was gone, but an other took my fancy and that one too was decent experience, I went back just for him. Then every now and then I drop in and see what's on offer, often just to have a drink and a chat. The boys don't approach unless asked. It's been open more than a year now.

It's a low brow sorta place, strange really with left over plumbing fixtures but the management is not pushy, friendly and there's no pressure to off a boy or take a massage.

There are more fancy massage venues in Bangkok but after a while it's just so by the numbers. Sit down, line-up, select one, choose oil or cream and length of massage and follow him. This place is a different.

Alaan

October 17th, 2009, 23:53

Yes Mr.brad i too was surprised at my own retort to Trongpai........ but i really dont use the forum or have time to get into long discussions or political shit or meaningful dialogue....for me it is really just somewhere to pick up some info and tips about Thailand and in return provide posts with factual experiences or reviews of my visits to Thailand in the hope that there might, in amongst the text, be something of interest to someone out there or for someone who is just interested to get updates before a visit themself.

The only times i tend to drag things on a bit is either when my honesty/or the facts i have posted have been brought into question or some of the "full of themselves pompous types" such as mr x, GoneF and the likes decide to respond to any of my posts with inaccuracies or force their own interpretation of my opinions/observations falsely. Then it has got to be answered. Other than that I'm quite unfazed.

Much in the same way as you retort when not happy with a response to your postings Mr.Brad. In this case Trongpai deserved a curt reply as he described my experience and that of the poster Searcher as "uninformed speculation"....when in fact it was an actual experience.He then later described them as 'interpretations' NO they were facts and actually happened as described. Nor were they the "abberation" that you suggested they might be......quite why you felt the need to suggest that might be the case i'm really not sure.....perhaps it was just to enhace your little style of Mr A.. Mr B.. doodlings.

If Trongpie had simply said that he had visited 10 times over a year and his experiences had not been the same as ours......no problem...i would have accepted a differing view, but our experience would still have stood as a warning to take care at this venue......but he wrote-off the experiences of myself and Searcher as speculation..as if what we had stated might not have actually taken place....thats not something i'm prepared to leave unanswered......lest anybody reading the thread might accept the Trongpai word for everything and later be at the venue when 'X' actually does occur......i use 'when' not 'if'.

Your suggestion of "basis of probability of 'X' not being a regular occurance" counts for absolutely nothing, if on the irregular time you are in said venue and X does occur and ..you can speculate as much as you want on the percentages of that happening.....but on the on the high stake bets i'd rather pick the one with the lottery win at the end of it rather than the one with any length of time in a Thai monkey house if not guilty of nothing more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time....... which was partly the reason i offered my experiences there to the thread.

Brad the Impala

October 18th, 2009, 15:10

Thanks guys for explaining. It's a mystery!

Koh Samui Luv

October 18th, 2009, 17:33

Then every now and then I drop in and see what's on offer, often just to have a drink and a chat. The boys don't approach unless asked. It's been open more than a year now.

It's a low brow sorta place, strange really with left over plumbing fixtures but the management is not pushy, friendly and there's no pressure to off a boy or take a massage.

There are more fancy massage venues in Bangkok but after a while it's just so by the numbers. Sit down, line-up, select one, choose oil or cream and length of massage and follow him. This place is a different.

This is exactly correct TrongpaiExpat from my own observations as well. Every guy I have seen in this place and asked about had a valid ID card. I too like the very easy going, non pushy and casual nature of the place. Hey, this is a flesh market and there is no need to be pretentious about it all.

Some here have quoted the mamasan as having said one thing or another. Of course! Does anyone literally believe what any mamasan tells him? They are trying to read the interests you project, and tell you what they think you want to hear. Maybe some of you are telegraphing an image of yourself that you may be unaware of?

I've noticed that some of the board members here have "pedo" on the brain and maybe that tells us more about them than the bars they comment on:
http://psychology.about.com/od/theories ... mech_5.htm (http://psychology.about.com/od/theoriesofpersonality/ss/defensemech_5.htm)

Alaan

October 18th, 2009, 20:51

Well i'll try and make this my last post on this thread. I was actually expecting some half-wit to respond in the manner of Koh Samui Luv... and his 'pedo' crap......happens EVERYTIME in any age question thread...yawn fucking yawn! it is just very disappointing that someone actually had the stupidity to actually rake it up.

I visit all the types of gay/boy beer and agogo fleshpots in Thailand. There are only a few specific ones in Sunee i wouldn't go back to because they appear to have boys working there younger than the legal age. If however if i have gone to a bar which on noticing, after sitting with my drink, to have staff obviously under the legal age.....i will simply finish my drink and leave....i never really worry about being caught up in a raid and being carted off simply by being there......

If i was in a bars ST room if there was a raid......i would worry....... so that is also something i dont do. And that is probably my problem with Twinks.... that IF i happened to be in a cubicle while the BIB were visiting and there happened to be even one naked 16/17 year old somewhere in the building giving a massage to some other customer....i just would not like to get caught up in any possible fall-out....... as i said....the chances of that senario would be a very big percentage of actually happening......but why take the risk when i can have a massage in my room with one of their guaranteed legal age workers or a massage at any one of a number of other places which have no very young looking workers.

So why this place more of a risk in my opinion Koh S.L? you can blabb on all you want about 'dont believe the mamasan' bullshit .....but when Searcher said the boys he saw looked very young and were then confirmed by the manager that they were in fact 16 and 17 is more than enough pre-warning for me.

No accusation was made nor inference intended by me that Trongpie, you or any other customers who visit this venue are there to look for under legal age workers as i already know they do have perfectly leagal aged boys with ids there no probs....i even suggested i would be ok to take a boy from here back to my hotel.....

So i'm not sure why you have to feel so defensive that you have to suggest some pathetic physcological crap about 'pedo on the brain' 'telegraphing images of yourself'......do you think that the mamasan/waiter needed to have a telegraph after being told that i was only interested in staff with genuine id proving age which would be accepted at a hotel desk...no.... but by that time he had already told me that staff younger than the 18 year old with id introduced to me were available too.....they are not trying to sell me what they think i want to hear......they are trying to sell what they HAVE AVAILABLE you clot. How many massage places have YOU visited where they have tried to sell you staff under the legal age because they think you might want to hear that? me never! this was the first.......... all the places i go such as Bonny, Bangkok Boys, Blue House all make the opposite claim...that they have ONLY legal aged workers.

You let us know that your experience with the venue is not the same as ours.....and that it is similar to Trongpie.....thats fine....so why not just leave it at that......... why the need to get so defensive and add in all that pathetic drivel....they probably dont try to sell you their full range because they already know your preferences.....i was new... so i was offered the full range of their available servies simple as that...you can take as much issue with the facts as you wish...but it changes none of our views on the place....it does however give me some insight as to how YOUR creepy little brain actually works though..........

Koh Samui Luv

October 18th, 2009, 22:26

It seems I've touched a raw nerve!

Alaan

October 18th, 2009, 23:35

Quite the contrary........it seems that it was i who may have unintensionally touched the raw nerve by critisizing and providing facts that the massage/bar you regularly attend does in FACT have underage workers available......

you have of course claimed all the guys you have 'seen in this place' had a valid id card...........but despite this my comments along with those of Searcher seem to have 'unsettled' you enough to expound unnecessary over-the-top and rather creepy responses........

dab69

October 19th, 2009, 00:51

not familiar with NB,
and don't see it listed on
DreadedNed's map

had to search to find a map.
would be nice to have one here,
( though ALPHABETIZED listings AND numerically ordered
would be a novelty and too much to ask for )

http://www.dreadedned.com/directory/map/1/1/

Alaan

October 19th, 2009, 01:28

dab69 i think the original op would have been referring to Nature Boys just along the soi from GoldenC.

October 19th, 2009, 01:42

not familiar with NB,
and don't see it listed on
DreadedNed's map

I've mentioned on this Forum before that back in the mid 1990's I wrote some of the Go Go Bar reviews in a little book called "Thai Scene" that was published by the GMP. So purely for research I visited most of the Go Go Bars in the Silom area. By the time it was published almost two years later in 1998 it was already hopelessly out-of-date.

Back in those days "Golden Cock" was a bit up market and "Nature Boys" hadn't appeared on the scene.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c156/Jons_photos/Golden_Cock.jpg

If you still want to know where "Nature Boys" is it's in the same Soi as "Golden Cock" and if you stand outside and look to your left the sign is clarly visible and only a few yards further up the Soi on the other side.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c156/Jons_photos/Nature_Boy_02.jpg

It really is as narrow as it appears to be in the photo.

bao-bao

October 19th, 2009, 08:25

...and if you happen to wander by Golden Cock at night, it looks like this:

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z56/khunbaobao/W-GoldenCock2008.jpg

I'd taken a newbie to Tawan and was showing him this area around the corner. We didn't walk down as far as Nature Boy - it didn't look like it would make much of a night picture and from what I've heard there's nothing INSIDE there I'd ever care to be a witness to - no offense to those who do.

Chuai-Duai

October 21st, 2009, 16:44

At least two of the guys at Nature Boys are very accomplished pick pockets so if you do go there be careful. Personally I wouldn't go again.

Uranus

October 23rd, 2009, 22:01

I never had any problems at Nature Boy. The tatooed guy is always particularly friendly. Maybe they have some new guys?

October 27th, 2009, 04:38

At least two of the guys at Nature Boys are very accomplished pick pockets so if you do go there be careful. Personally I wouldn't go again.

You'd think if they were that good they'd move to a bar with space for more than 2 victims at any one time.

:hello1: :hello1: :hello1: :hello1:

October 27th, 2009, 05:10

[quote="Chuai-Duai":2ea3c5e4]At least two of the guys at Nature Boys are very accomplished pick pockets so if you do go there be careful. Personally I wouldn't go again.

You'd think if they were that good they'd move to a bar with space for more than 2 victims at any one time.

:hello1: :hello1: :hello1: :hello1:[/quote:2ea3c5e4]

Brilliant :laughing3:

:hello1:

Chuai-Duai

October 28th, 2009, 16:39

You'd think if they were that good they'd move to a bar with space for more than 2 victims at any one time.

You're missing the point.

The guys in "Nature Boys" have a more "one-to-one" relationship with the customers and therefore are more able to divert your attention. If a guy has his head in your lap and your trousers are around your ankles it does tend to take your attention off what's happening to your pockets.

When I realised I'd had money taken it was returned in such a matter-of-fact way that it was obvious that it had happened before.

I was annoyed but philosophical as if allow myself to get into such a position in a public bar then I don't think I can complain too much (and it was fun).

October 29th, 2009, 07:18