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Smiles
February 1st, 2009, 14:12
THE MISUNDERSTANDING

Being in a long-term/live-in relationship with a Thai man pretty well guarantees that sometime along the winding road there will some kind of mini upheaval regarding nuances and just-plain-misundertandings of the Thai interpretation of english language craziness. I say "Thai interpretation" as these misunderstandings are almost always his about English, rather than mine about Thai. It's a bit of a one-way street on this level, as he speaks quite good english, and I speak next to no Thai.
I'm not particularly proud of this lopsidedness, but it is what it is: one of these days I'll make a greater effort, but right now, our communications are all in english.

But we have this little agreement, and we've had it forever: if there's some english word or phrase he doesn't understand, just don't sit there, say something! We have our Thai/English dictionary always at hand, and in most instances have made heavy use of it over the years . . . the proof being that it's so flipped-through that it's days are now numbered.

We have this understanding mostly because of 'relationship-speak' ... that odd, difficult, often uncomfortable, but essential language between two people determined to work through the ups and downs of a committed relationship, rather than (possibly) watch things slowly deteriorate simply because 'things' are not talked through.
This technique has worked wonders for us (not in small part because of his good english, and better instincts) so many times . . . but not THIS time . . .

. . . The other day we were getting into a bit of a row about some thoughts I had about the way he conducts his tour guide business. The (quite short) conversation went something like this:

ME: "Don't forget to put the extra pillows in the back seat for your customers" (BACKGROUND: His pickup truck has one of those small back seats which are not nearlly as comfortable as the front passenger seat, so he adds ~ at my suggestion ~ a few extra plush pillows for the folks who end up in the back, especially on long trips. At first he didn't think they were important and, surprisingly to me, it took him quite a long time to come around to the concept).
HIM: "No need, Thai lady is sitting in the back"
ME: "But that doesn't matter, she's a customer"
HIM: "No, she Thai lady. Back seat is comfortable for her"
ME: "So how do you know that? Are you sure?"

Anyway ... as you can see, there is a real difference of opinion about 'customer service' between the two of us. It drives me a bit crazy ... (but of course, it's mostly about the original idea of the pillows-as-service theme (mine) which we argued about so long ago. Which I 'won': i.e. Thai loses small amount of face).

After the argument about that, I said something along the lines of:

ME: "You know, it's really important that we discuss stuff like this"
HIM: "Why you use this word to me?"
ME: "What word?"
HIM: "This is a very bad word to me. Why do you use this word?"
ME (non-plussed): "What word are you taking about?"
HIM: "Discuss"
ME: "Discuss? That's not a bad word. We use it all the time"
HIM: "No. This is a very bad word against other people"
ME: (Inside ... think Dave, think. :scratch: What word could he be thinking of? We've 'discussed' things a million times over the years. How many times have I asked him to 'discuss' something? More importantly, how many times hasn't he asked us to 'discuss' something? I'm getting it now ...)
ME (lightbulb!): "Do you mean 'disgust'?"
HIM: "Yes, 'discussed' "
ME: "Ohhhhh, where's that dictionary!"

So, as you can well imagine, here was one single little word which, when heard by him brought up thoughts which I knew nothing about . . . for years. He had said nothing (because he was thinking he was hearing correctly) and I had no idea it was being taken with such obvious (now!) bewilderment.

Between two people, with so many different cultural and language barriers, making a life . . . giant misunderstandings can be crafted from so little, and often discovered through pure serendipity (which seems so often to be gently guiding our life together): he decided to ~ for some reason, that particular morning in Hua Hin, when he never ever had before ~ confront me with a slight/no slight.



HEARTS OF DARKNESS: FALLING IN


Thailand confronts we farang on so many levels: some quite hifalutin moral quandries (see: Burmese boat people), but just as many low and mundane issues: such as the ubiquitous Thailand sidewalk sewer cover.

These puppies cannot be ignored. Being large (just large enough to engulf a medium sized human being) and very numerous (i.e. every 12 feet), they define 'walking' . . . that is to say, they make it humanly impossible to actually walk a straight line on any given sidewalk, unless of course one is willing to blithely step on some of the most precarious slabs of killer concrete ever to be seen sitting merrily right there under one's foot. Ready to snatch you into the dark of Dantes unknown.

Hua Hin has at least as many of these ugly monsters, and in such a variety of 'quality' levels, as any other place in the land. But familiarity breeds a photo story (as they say), and this is my home town, so here below displayed is the sewer-cover journal of my sewer encounters: walk and enjoy your rambles through this sweet little oasis of sun and sand (see further below), but be afraid! Be VERY afraid!!!


The quintessential feature of the HH sidewalk sewer-cover is the ever-present possibility of Disastrous Encounter (AKA: 'D.E.'). A cement sewer-cover in Thailand is, by nature, timed to begin rapid deterioration within two weeks of birth.
This baby was laid down (by dozens of workers, over a week of holes impassable) in September. Sewer-cover rot has started already. It's beginning to get that "should I, or shouldn't I" look when approached. Up to now I courageously walk right over (and on) it (only a tiny niggling a-happenin'), but I suspect that will change by next September ... it being the grand old age of one by then.


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This ghastly 'D.E.' is helped into an even worse danger by a square piece of drywall which has been thoughtfully placed over the largest part of a gaping hole. Have you ever stepped on, with full weight, a piece of drywall suspended over, well, nothing? It snaps in half REAL EASY.
Whoever put it there had the best intentions really, after all they also stuffed in below the drywall what appears to be the remnants of an old outdoor coffee table. This may give some strength to the drywall ... I didn't test it.


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Then there's my favourite for it's camouflaged possibilities. Looking in much better repair than many, it's seems on the face of it that it would be easy to not fall head over heels. But tell that to a runner, at night (and lots of them run along this main street in the evening. Or to obese farangs who walk along here in droves ... worrying so much about not falling over simply because the lay of the land is not exactly level, they neglect half-ton obstacles (like giant trees and unyeilding cement electric poles) sitting squarely in their tracks.


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And then there's the "let's-lift-this-one-up-and-put-a-pipe-under-it-and-just-leave-it-for-three-weeks-(and counting)" factor. This one has been a litmus test of time trials: I've passed by here every day for nearly a month waiting for 'something to happen'. Nothing has.


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Something has been planned here (I'm sure), but the plans seem to have been lost. That giant mouth-like structure seems to be a kind of drainage canal, but ... it slopes upwards! Instead of water draining into, and under, the accompanying sewer cover, it has become a garbage facilty for the construction workers next door, chock-a-block full of assorted ghastly things and their plastic wrappers ... all to be conveniently washed into the sewer during the next tsunami, whenever that occurs.
The sewer-cover is no screaming hell either.


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This mouldering cover has seen better days, but is not in too bad a condition. It's a major tripper though as it sits right in front of the curb ... a very high curb which causes farang ladies (never light on their feet to begin with, and all in a debilitating state of perpetual confusion with Thailand in general) to have to lift their skirts when they attempt to climb it. This causes them to momentarily lose sight of the sidewalk and the dangers that lurk on their next step that they invariably trip forward over the cover. I've seen it many times ... in fact, it's a good way to spend a lazy day in the bar right next to the sewer-cover watching the general exasperation.


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And then .... if they actually see the sewer-cover trap and make a quick move to the left, they're confronted by a equal disaster: a gaping hole in the sidewalk brickwork big enough to swallow a 150 pound Fraulein, and a man-eating macaque monkey (who lives there) ready to pounce on the unwary.


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The 'King of the Upheaved'. An amazingly tilted sewer-cover which reminds me of a number of photos I saw taken directly after in the aftermath of the Osaka earthquake.
This is a classic tripper-upper, preying on night runners, moon watchers, the drug addled, motorbikes taking a shortcut, and farang head-turners tryng to keep their eye on a passing Thai guy's gorgoeous ass. They all deserve their fate, and I'll bet the Hua Hin Public Works Dept. boss agrees with me.


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The 'Stealth Tripper' cover: Innocuous, seemingly harmless, one side partially lifted ... a sidewinder under a rock, a sleeping crocodile. More dangerous than the 'Gaper', by far.


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Waiting for high heeled Hi-So farangs is this baby's 'raison d'etre'. It has no other attribute other than to wait for prey, especially at night. This sucker will take your whole leg and beg for more ... and if those high heels are on a guy's foot he'll dig his task all that more. The cement lid is balanced so that once your leg is more than 6 inches in, one side falls off and thus crashes down onto the victims head on the way down. A terrible way to go.


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And pictured below lies perfection in the ubiquitous Thai sidewalk sewer-cover: a true representative of the architechtural Golden Mean (yes, just like the Acropolis), in fact four of them . . . exquisitely flat surface, edges carrying seamlessly through to the surrounding pavement. Nothing to trip over, or fall through. No toe-stubbing properties, no jagged edges, no assault to the aesthetic sensibilities of the gay tourist ~ in essence, the quintessentially non-problematical manhole cover: the best one found in Hua Hin. (Well, for six months anyway).


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SAND

Hua Hin is blessed not only with quite clean, swimmable water, but by 6 miles or so of the most lovely sand 'type' I've ever come across on a 'city' beach. Because the beach really does straddle a reasonably large Thai town city it's all the more interesting that the sand quality and texture here is much better than the many secluded beaches to the south ... heads and shoulders above that in Jomtien (with it's gritty mixture of 'some-kind-of' sand and just plain dirt).

The sand here is clean, white, infinitely playable, deliciously rock free, thankfully innocent of that "what the hell's that!?" feeling one often gets when digging one's feet into the sand at ocean's edge.

A long shot of Hua Hin Beach looking north towards town. The Stroll here is extremely popular: walking arm in arm with chosen guy or girl the length of the beach's great crescent ... if farang, the wife all agog ... if Thai, the girl bored silly (substiture 'wife/girl' for 'boyfriend/off' if you wish). Runners (Thai & farang) up and down the sand, with or without runners ("never run without runners you idiot" I like to shout).
They all cruise along this lovely beach ... because of the sand, and how sensual and happy it feels to the foot.


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Close up of Hua Hin sand at dusk. A lovely darkling greyish pinkish aura drifts over it as the sun starts to go down. The footprints (and hoof tracks) of a thousand strollers stay etched in ... but the following morning they're all gone, the sand then hard and clean and flat as a squeaky new pane of glass. A few hours later it's a new rug, ready to be stamped on by the same feet.

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The texture (when slightly damp, and a bit cool) of the Hua Hin sand is amazingly soothing. It's almost impossible to resist running it through your toes ... tough to not get down on your knees and do 'something' with it, like lifting it so it slides through your figures (like a clock), like covering yourself up to the knees (or more) like a Thai kid, like playing football with your love (and Thai kids), like burying your 'Singha yai' in it to keep it cool.



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Sure love this place ... sewer covers, dictionaries, sand et al.

Cheers ...

Bob
February 1st, 2009, 14:57
Lol, way too much time on your hands.

Now, for disgusting things (almost like "splaining" things to Ricky Ricardo, no?), I shall do my best to fill that category starting next week. No disussing, only disgusting.... :argue:

I bought some leather sandals (not sure of the brand) but love the damn things. There's a rubberized bumper at the front and this is the first time I've ever been in Thailand where I haven't stubbed my toes on some sidewalk diversion.

P.S.S. Looks like the same guy made the sidewalks both here (Chiangmai) and Hua Hin.
Probably same guy to set up the electrical wires all over too......

P.S. What the hell? I can even say "D-I-S-G-U-S-T" on this board without some purple-headed dorph replacing my words? If George Orwell was gay (and alive), he'd probably use the puke icon.....

Hmmm
February 1st, 2009, 17:12
Re the sewer thing, I can see that the sidewalk calamity you suffered on Beach Rd in Pattaya some years ago has had a profound effect on your psyche. :-)

February 1st, 2009, 18:40
Wouldn't it be good if all those trip hazards actually DISCOURAGED motorcycles from using the pavement?
Unfortunately they seem to ride over anything.

February 1st, 2009, 18:56
My boyfriend has a habit of pointing out potential obstacles that he thinks might trip me up. I tell him that I've been walking unaided for a lot longer than him without mishap but it's still a service he feels he must provide when I'm with him. Walking around Hua Hin certainly provides him with plenty of opportunities to do this.

I agree about the beach at Hua Hin which I always enjoy walking along and swimming in the sea. Here's the far end from the town with my boyfriend providing another of his services which is to carry my shoes.

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There aren't many beaches where you can also watch monkeys swimming.

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I could write a whole post about misunderstandings through language differences. In fact I might do just that...

mahjongguy
February 1st, 2009, 20:45
Smiles, you're a treat. :sunny:

bao-bao
February 1st, 2009, 21:21
That was a great read, Smiles, thanks! :cheers:

Over the years I've had the same conversation about misunderstandings with friends there, with varying degrees of success. If the lines of communication aren't open (if that "won't talk about it" mindset is firmly is in place, for whatever reason) all is lost on the topic, and eventually the relationship, I think... be it professional, personal or whatever. With the friends who count I long ago established an agreement to тАЬtalk things outтАЭ.

My shortcoming is to not carry the "dic" around with me, so I often have to go through an elaborate explanation with a lot of charades and gesturing -- often to the amusement of those around us. Nevertheless, if it avoids an ongoing (and valuable time-wasting) funk on either side it's worth it to settle it on the spot and not let it fester and grow.

The problem with that is what was at first kind of fun becomes tedious after a while, making it a good test of the relationship's value, I suppose.

The challenges of maneuvering one's way along a sidewalk anywhere there are just that - a challenge. I had to decide which way I wished to be inconvenienced: having to nurse an injury or missing some of the "walking scenery". Now I miss the scenery -- most of the time тАУ but still take the occasional risk!

elephantspike
February 2nd, 2009, 01:18
disgust

OK, I fixed the glitch with the smilies. It is only supposed to show this: :disgust: when you put colons before and after it. I'm not sure why I can't seem to fix it in Bob's post, though. OK, now that's fixed, too.

Nice photo-essay, BTW, smiles. Carry-on.

February 2nd, 2009, 21:54
Amusing as ever, Smiles - at least the first chapter, as I have to confess that I fast-forwarded over the other two.

My most amusing misunderstanding over language, and the one which has had the longest lasting effect on me, was over my partner calling me "darling". Seven years or more ago, when he was still working and phoning me to arrange a time for him to come round for a visit, he started calling me "darling" on the phone - a term of endearment previously only ever used by my mother and so of a certain significance to me and one which I felt, at the time, was not appropriate. Consequently I told him (on the phone) "Don't call me 'darling' "; hardly surprisingly he took it to mean "Don't call me, darling" and could not understand why I did not want him to call me!

After a relatively brief explanation he easily understood the difference and did not start calling me "darling" again until around three years later, when we had been living together for two years (probably soon after he told me that he loved me then, but had not when he first moved in!!).

The long lasting effect is that I now call him "darling" without even thinking about it - something which probably causes a few raised eyebrows behind my back when shopping in the local Tesco-Lotus!

Wesley
February 3rd, 2009, 01:05
Excellent writing and well received by this reader, Top Job Mr Smiles.