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Facts and Fiction The Philippines from a ForeignersтАЩ Perspective
Utopia has an excellet section on the Philippines please follow this link http://www.utopia-asia.com/tipsphil.htm
Having spent the last ten years running back and forth from Kyrgyzstan to Thailand, it was to my credit that when I left Kyrgyzstan after the Coup, that I decided to come to this remarkable place called the Philippines.
As far as the sex tourist kind of thing you would normally find in Thailand, here you find more of an underground sex scene in Manila and all over the Philippines. It is by far the most active gay place I have ever lived. That would include the USA, Kyrgyzstan and Russia and my time I have spent in Thailand. Although, Thailand has a more open Go Go scene and boys are offed in Thailand, there is a much more likely chance you will run into a guy almost anywhere and at any time who is just simply horny. I find the guys not quite as oriental looking as the Thai or the Kyrgyz. But they are clean well spoken in English and moderately trustworthy. Almost all will tell you they are Christians while making love and seems not to understand the significance of the western thought on this subject. Almost as the Kyrgyz never really were Muslims after the Soviets finished with them. They are Christian in name only. When I first came here, I went to the Go/Go bars, which are for the mostly straight women and an occasional gay or Bi couple who just want to play. However, when they are on stage with everything showing, I do mean everything, in the more expensive bars. They will have a big huge cross around their neck as if it were quite normal to be a part of the sex trade industry such as it is here, and still be a Christian. There is a lot who do not wish to come out who play around on guys4men. http://www.guys4men.com/members/1438535 I would say that this is the best personals site I have ever seen anywhere anytime free. I can on average Find 3 to 4 guys a week on this site and had a 21-year-old just leave with a smile. I would say that unless you enjoy the nightlife you would never need to leave your house unless you wanted to. As the FilipinoтАЩs say they love white cock here and at 57 I can partner with 5 to 6 a week counting the bar scene and guys for men and keep a bf or two happy at the same time as most prefer and open relationship although, all of their profiles say they are looking for that special someone, they are but with loopholes. I was willing more than willing to keep a monogamous relationship with the person I am currently seeing. He however prefers we keep it open as long as I am planning to go to the USA for 3 months of every year for Business. So having given an over view let me mention some subjects separately.
Go/Go bars
The Go Go scene here is illegal, like Thailand, it turns its head when needed but not much. Several bars in the Quezon City area offer people for rent. The cost is high. Usually 100 USD and up. The guys are professionals however and you will be pleased or get your money back(within reason) As mentioned before the guys are mostly straight and after having met one on guys4men who wanted out of the business and was willing to live with me if I would take him as a lover. I Found out that in his entire career he only had to sleep with a man alone twice. So most of the trade goes to the upper class Filipino women who in a land where most men have a wife and a mistress the wife usually keeps the family and the money at home and also keeps herself occupied with men of her own while her husband is with the mistress which is culturally acceptable here although, it does leave two family units with one disregarded as the family of the man and the mistress recognized as such but usually provided for if the man is wealthy enough to do so if not then the women will work in the markets to provide for their children. I meet many of the gay people who have only seen their real father only once or twice in their lifetime. They fill in the blanks with godfathers who are usually uncles of the mistress and usually if possible put the children through school and at Christmas and birthdays, it is the godfather, who provides and is expected to give them a gift.
So, getting back to the subject matter at hand there are alternatives to this, Show bars will have a show, and at intervals when a customer will ask 10 to 20 boys are lined up on stage and you can buy them drinks and make your own deal from 20 a night to 50 depending on his looks and abilities or how he may perform in bed as a top or bottom, some having a more likable appendage which here can be quite large to quite small, although I have found on average larger here than in Thailand and smaller than Kyrgyzstan. I have seen here the largest of any Asian country and the smallest. Although I am not a size queen myself, I am trying to cover all the bases here as I know some care as do I if I am going to be versatile and choose a long term partner.
In this type of setting, it is illegal and usual the police have not been paid off to turn the other other way so, the guys keep their clothes on. You can find out what you need to know when buying him a beer or drink. This is usually a drink for the use of the bar and likely a cut of the profits for the boy. In my opinion, These boys are much better looking than the professionals who have tattooтАЩs and the bodies that normal slim Asian guys usually do not possess and could not if they worked out all the time.
Where to look
If you are looking for guys there are really only two cities that have gay bars that are openly gay bars. Manila in all the provinces of the city Quezon city Malate, Makati, Cubao and on it goes. However the largest island and the one in which Macarthur was supposed to have returned named Cebu and having its own language other than Tagalog the native of most of the country. Although I havee not been there, I am told they have 3 bars there on that island and you can look it up on the net to try and find if there are others. (Borochi) spelled Borocay is the next place to go to fine men, claiming to be the largest white sand beach in the world in a place where there are said to be 7,000 separate Islands is the place to find the beach boys. Borocay and Palawan are the two main places to go for a beach. I have been to Palawan but he high season here in around Christmas so I have avoided Borocay, until I am about to go back to the USA. Being only 5 degreeтАЩs off the equator you will find it only gets cool here in December and January and here cool is enough for short sleeves for me but will bring them out in coats and sweaters and toboggans as if they were in Kyrgyzstan at 20 below.
The main gay scene is Malate although Quezon City and Makati can be fun; Malate is the main section of town to find a guy. Anyone who is under 70 can find a guy on the weekend at Malate pronounced (MalaTAтАЩ) which is within 4 or five city blocks of manila bay which if I may try to download some pictures later of what I have seen so far. Malate has about four blocks that are full of some of the best gay bars I have ever seen for a third world country. One being good enough to only open 4 days a week and often will fly in someone from SF USA to D.J. the name of the bar is bed and is surrounded with the mafia bar and Obar and Chelu with another one to open this weekend right beside it. There are within the area likely 20 to 30 bars all, which cater to one kind of person or another. Mafia a show bar for Drag and Obar a dance club and favorite Cruise spot for everyone. Almost everyone goes to Obar first for drinks, food or conversation and then on to one of the better bars for dancing and shows. This area is classfiedd by Utopia as beign similar to the Siloam part of Bangkok.The cost of Beer fluctuates from 50 peso at Obar and three for 100 specials on weeknights 100 in bed and time it is open. They do offer some specials early in the night at bed if you want look it up in guys4 men where most specials are announced weekly and monthly for all participating bars. Bar by bar in comparison Obar is small compared to bed and Mafia but gets a tremendous amount of business since older guys like me, tend to not like a lot of techno, I prefer Obar then later if I canтАЩt find a guy at Obar will go to bed for an hour or so and find the guy I could not find anywhere else.
Hotels I have mentioned before but a simple search for hotels for Malate will tell you everything I now since I live in my own place. I do know that the Hyatt regency will allow rooms to rent for 300 peso for an hour or two if they happen to have a room available. In addition, there are other rooms to rent in the district for rather low rent for an hour or two. Some I found by accident and others I was taken to see.
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Freelancers and boys of most any age can be found in and around Obar, especially between 2 and 5 AM where the majority of the bars close at 4 to 430 with last call at 4;45. It is during this time not anyone who was lucky enough to find a freebee will find a freelancer that will go home with you. The prices range from 500 pesosтАЩ to 1000 and so far I have not seen anyone who argued much about the price as long as it was at least 500 and with an exchange rate that fluctuates on the USA between 47 and 50 that can be quite a good deal. Almost any college guy will go home with you for 500 if he is trying to get through school. Some are quite nice looking.
STDтАЩs I have found it so far not to be a problem however, they guys do and will bareback. Although personally I keep condoms available. However, I have so far not heard of any cases of AIDS and I guess a Google will tell you the stats on the subject here.
Age,
I have never seen any person carded for age here at any bar at any time. The legal age is 18, however I am sure that no asks and no one cares as long as they look of age. Personally, I ask. However, like most Asians you really cannot tell. The obvious you should stay away from although I have never seen much of a police presence here at any time. Driving home drunk is expected. I take a Taxi there and back. However, I would get lost in the city after dark any way.
If there are other questions feel free to PM me and I will do all I can to answer any unanswered questions.
All the best,
Wesley
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