boy pricing

[catawampuscat]

Try to be generous when you are well served and gratious when you pick a loser.
One gets to know the current acceptable rates for services provided from experience
and talking to fellow farangs when in the various places.
Hot, universally handsome boys are compensated differently than the over-the-hill boys
or those who are desparate for any reason.

If you like vanilla sex and are happy to do the minimal, or if you want mulitple poundings
and hours of sex, you should tip differently.
One friend had a bad experience the other nite and the boy didn't want to even remove his
clothing in the farangs room. The boy wouldn't do anything and the farang showed him the
door with minimal compensation.

Some boys blow you away and are awesome. To tip a standard rate seems wrong to me as
I tip more for good service and less for bad service.

Try not to be cheap and to take advantadge of the boys when they say 'up to you'. You will
get a bad rep and like karma, what comes around goes around.
The generous will always be generous and the cheap will always look for a bargain and each
of us has his own opinion about what amount is adequate.
This topic probably has been the most common over the years and it is understandable
for first timers but somehow we all figure it out thru trial and error.. :cat:

[francois]

Try to be generous when you are well served and gratious when you pick a loser.
:cat:

Shakespeare could not have phrased it better, well, other than Mol├мere.

Boys are not a commodity, priced in the market by the kilo.

So so so funny can you tell me when to laugh :flower:

I dont think it was meant to be a joke

So so so funny can you tell me when to laugh :flower:

I dont think it was meant to be a joke

Ok, here we go again........
Dave, I could have made your response, but on the other hand: the boys we're talking about here are prostitutes/hookers and they do have their price. I know, it sounds harsh, but that's the way it is.

Boys are not a commodity, priced in the market by the kilo.

So so so funny can you tell me when to laugh :flower:

It's probably the kindest and wisest thing he's ever posted here, so don't knock it.

Boys are not a commodity, priced in the market by the kilo.


Dam I thought I was going to get a bargain coz prefer slim boys :bounce:

David

luckily they dont charge by the weight of the customer!


Yes, they are in business to provide a service. So is your doctor. Would you think of him as a commodity to be bought by weight?

luckily they dont charge by the weight of the customer!


Yes, they are in business to provide a service. So is your doctor. Would you think of him as a commodity to be bought by weight?

No, I would pay (if I had the choice) by the quality of the service and according to the usual rates, as I do for any other service. Generosity or miserliness would not enter into it.

i assume you are joking!!!!!!! in that case get a good dvd and pleasure yourself and let them starve

[netrix]

i assume you are joking!!!!!!! in that case get a good dvd and pleasure yourself and let them starve

wow. first post, huh? welcome. you'll fit in well here.

I alway pay 1000 Pattaya and 1500 baht in Bangkok, even though I have a permanent Boy who takes good care of me, more like a private Secretary/Butler/ protector, rather then a boy friend, :drunken: on the books, but if I was you, start at 500 baht and with add ons for performance, Illl leave it up to you, how you gage their perfomance?

[Wesley]

well no one aswered his post, since I have not been since the airport was shut down I have no frame of reference as to what the going rate is now. I think the best advice came from Cat. I feel better if they are treated like guys instead of meat by the kilo. But, I guess its really up to you, the boy and the mamasuan to work pout a deal. When a boy tells me 500 I take his offer and get two guys for the price of one. If you like them that way go to Lagun if its still open afer the airport debacle.

In the end, I would rather for the owners and boys to like it when I come back, treat them like you would want to be treated and you can't lose.

In that area BG and I agree. But I don't kick those who try to get a deal, not everyone has the same budget to work with.

Wes

You think the "rate" has changed because the airport closed for a week? Did the price of a Coca-Cola at 7-11 or a plate of fried rice at your nearest street stall go down?

[Wesley]

You think the "rate" has changed because the airport closed for a week? Did the price of a Coca-Cola at 7-11 or a plate of fried rice at your nearest street stall go down?

No shit, I'm simply saying I have no idea if the boys have gotten hungry enough to drop their price for an off , better 500 than 1500 if you are hungry. I realize that has nothing to do with Coke, but it does have to do with life. If People get hungry enough they will drop the price of an off to secure the deal. Simply capitalism at work

Wes

Try searching for the polls I started a few weeks back.
Unlike some others, I think it's a perfectly reasonable question.
Knowing the "going rate" enables one to tip appropriately & ensure your boy is not disappointed with the tip, after providing good service.

I had dinner at a restaurant tonight, and I was flabbergasted that the menu featured the same prices they did when I dined there last month. In spite of the airport closure! Harumph! Who do they think they are? This type of thing will certainly result in tourists shunning Thailand until the next ice age...at least. Double harumph!

[Wesley]

no doublt, food cost went down just after the opening of the airport, you just got Lucky with the food

Wes

i always thought it was standard prices for boys in BKK Phuket and Pattaya

can anyone list them out for me

Example

.............. Bangkok ..........Phuket................Pattaya

short time ?????...............??????.................??????

overnight ?????................???????................??????

long stay ??????...............??????..................????? ?


..............Bangkok............Phuket........... .......Pattaya

Short time ?????...............1.000....................800-1000

Overnight ?????............... 1.500 - 2000.........1.500

long time ?????............... 1.500...................1.500

long time : The boy stay whit you also at day what makes you pay a lot more tip going out , pay t-shirt, mobile , cinema.... and special tip on the last day.

All the above posters did not answer on this.

They so shy Graham . :clown:

[kittyboy]

As some of you may well know -- I am an aspiring researcher in the area of gays and lesbians in the workplace. No no,,, let me rephrase that I am a budding researcer... I like that much better.

I believe that some of you when referring to price and how it might change under differing circumstances are getting at the idea of price elasticity of demand and income elasticity of demand! How does demand change with regards to price and income levels. Or the reverse is the price supply elasticityand the income supply elasticity! How does supply change with regards to price and income levels.

In order to anwer those questions for you gentlemen I am going to apply for a National Institure of Health grant to do field studies of these vary same questions - in thailand. I think 100,000 US dollars over the course of hmmmm... 3 years would provide me with very good data.

Wish me luck.

I had dinner at a restaurant tonight, and I was flabbergasted that the menu featured the same prices they did when I dined there last month. In spite of the airport closure!

Well, baht buses went up from 10 baht to 20 when fuel went up from 22baht a litre to 44; now it is down to 16 a litre, prices are still the same (20 baht). Some things change, some don't.

I had dinner at a restaurant tonight, and I was flabbergasted that the menu featured the same prices they did when I dined there last month.Chao Na does not understand the difference between fixed cost, variable cost and marginal cost - restaurants work largely on fixed costs, with food ingedients being the only variable cost. Marginal costs are neglible. Bar boys work entirely on marginal cost, therefore their prices should vary more according to supply or as in this case demand. Besides, a restaurant offering chicken on the menu can only buy chicken; bar boys are much more fungible although many of them may also be "chicken".

[puckered_penguin]

I had dinner at a restaurant tonight, and I was flabbergasted that the menu featured the same prices they did when I dined there last month. In spite of the airport closure! Harumph! Who do they think they are? This type of thing will certainly result in tourists shunning Thailand until the next ice age...at least. Double harumph!
I am amazed that you can remember the price you pay from month to month.
From Bangkok Post 10/12/08

CONSUMER PRICES
Food-court prices to fall
www.bangkokpost.com/101208_Business/10Dec2008_biz25.php (http://www.bangkokpost.com/101208_Business/10Dec2008_biz25.php)

So Gone Fishing it does happen.

I should have added that Chao Na claims to have successfully run his own business in Bangkok but from his ignorance on how pricing works you have to wonder about the truth of that claim.

[Sen Yai]

I had dinner at a restaurant tonight, and I was flabbergasted that the menu featured the same prices they did when I dined there last month. In spite of the airport closure! Harumph! Who do they think they are? This type of thing will certainly result in tourists shunning Thailand until the next ice age...at least. Double harumph!

This story in today's Bangkok Post should cheer you up:

Food-court prices to fall

Prices of meals at food courts in shopping centres are expected to fall by five baht per dish over the next two weeks, reflecting lower costs, the Commerce Ministry said yesterday.......

full story here: www.bangkokpost.com/101208_Business/10Dec2008_biz25.php (http://www.bangkokpost.com/101208_Business/10Dec2008_biz25.php)

[Wesley]

I should have added that Chao Na claims to have successfully run his own business in Bangkok but from his ignorance on how pricing works you have to wonder about the truth of that claim.

BG was just spouting off at me, he knows better, The kids will take what they can get here and there, seen it over and over. Two money boys here were ready to quit just to move in and not work at all. How sweet it must be to be able to live off your looks.

Chao Na, as you fondly call him, has much better sense than the stuff he rattles off all the time, its just for show. He acts like he cares about the poor boys by the kilo, Actually, he is just like the rest of us. Horny and will pay for it when he has to, if not by the pound certainly by the Kilo. LOL. he has no market and is simply BG re-incarnate.

[joe552]

I had dinner at a restaurant tonight, and I was flabbergasted that the menu featured the same prices they did when I dined there last month.Chao Na does not understand the difference between fixed cost, variable cost and marginal cost - restaurants work largely on fixed costs, with food ingedients being the only variable cost. Marginal costs are neglible. Bar boys work entirely on marginal cost, therefore their prices should vary more according to supply or as in this case demand. Besides, a restaurant offering chicken on the menu can only buy chicken; bar boys are much more fungible although many of them may also be "chicken".

Another new word for me - what does it mean? Just wondering if I've had a fungible boy without knowing it.

[francois]

Yes, fungible is a word although I never heard or read of it used. I suppose a bar boy would be fungible or a bar girl? Something like "tit for tat".

[joe552]

Thanks for the definition gra45, but I still don't understand it's use here - bar boys can be something else besides bar boys? Anyway, always nice to learn something new.

Thanks for the definition gra45, but I still don't understand it's use here - bar boys can be something else besides bar boys? Anyway, always nice to learn something new.Surely it's obvious - one bar boy's as good as another. However ginger pork is an entirely different meal to green curry chicken so they are not fungible

[joe552]

Curious, had it been obvious I wouldn't have asked, but thank you for making this new word's meaning crystal clear. Believe it or not, I don't know the meaning of every single word in the English language (and me with a TEFL certificate).

Believe it or not, I don't know the meaning of every single word in the English language (and me with a TEFL certificate).I think that just confirms the low opinion many of us have of people who teach English to foreigners.

[Wesley]

Believe it or not, I don't know the meaning of every single word in the English language (and me with a TEFL certificate).I think that just confirms the low opinion many of us have of people who teach English to foreigners.

It may also help us to form an opinion of those of the grammar and spelling police here on the forum

Wesley

It may also help us to form an opinion of those of the grammar and spelling police here on the forumDon't be so hard on yourself Wesley - some of your posts are almost understandable these days. The next step is for them to make any sense.

Curious you think ur better than anyone one else go fuck urself back off from fair dikum posters ...I'd have to say based on that illiterate response that there's no thinking required on my part.

This posy has become fungible

[Wesley]

No offense there curious, just a statement of fact, some less fortunate than you, has opinions as well. How it is worded really is not nearly as important as the content. I will agree I am not the best writer in the world. Nevertheless, opinions, like assholes tend to show up from the most unlikely sources.

All the best!

Wes

Fungibility is the property of a good or a commodity whose individual units are capable of mutual substitution.

Fungibility has nothing to do with the ability to exchange one commodity for another. It has everything to do with exchanging one unit of a commodity with another unit of the same commodity.

[kittyboy]

Fungibility is the property of a good or a commodity whose individual units are capable of mutual substitution.

Fungibility has nothing to do with the ability to exchange one commodity for another. It has everything to do with exchanging one unit of a commodity with another unit of the same commodity.

I guess then that bar boys are only fungible if one sees all assholes or penises as the same. Fucking one asshole is the same as fucking another or getting fucked by one penis is the same as getting fucked by another.

Same Same no Difference = fungible

[joe552]

Curious, you'll obviously be pleased to learn that although I have a TEFL certificate I don't actually teach English to foreigners.

Curious, you'll obviously be pleased to learn that although I have a TEFL certificate I don't actually teach English to foreigners.Curiously I'm actually pleased obviously.

[joe552]

Well, that's both of us happy, then. And I do appreciate your clear explanation of the word in question.

[Wesley]

such a long way off thread this fungable thing, I wonder if there is anythign left to say about Boy pricing now that you have agreed on this term.

Wes

Boy Pricing
BKK:
2 beers & off fee 850
Tip 1400
Total 2200 bht or ┬г44

Berlin:
2 beers Eur 5
Tip Eur 40~60

OK this is not comparing like with like, as Berlin does not have gogo bars & the experience in BKK is much better.

I guess a Thai freelancer for 1000 bht tip is a better comparison & even then, on average service from the Thai guy would be better.

I don't know where in Berlin you're talking about, but if it's a house of boys, more like 3 x 10 EUR for Coca-Colas for yourself, the boy, and the bar owner (who will invite you to buy him a drink). Then EUR 75 for one hour with the boy.

[Wesley]

Here in Manila, going price is 500 to 1000 not more but your responisble for taxi which is about 250, exchange 49 to 1 USD. They will ask for 100 USD but its a joke and they know it. 80% is free.

Wes

Here in Manila, going price is 500 to 1000 not more but your responisble for taxi which is about 250, exchange 49 to 1 USD. They will ask for 100 USD but its a joke and they know it. 80% is free.

WesWhy do you go to Thailand then?

[Wesley]

Here in Manila, going price is 500 to 1000 not more but your responisble for taxi which is about 250, exchange 49 to 1 USD. They will ask for 100 USD but its a joke and they know it. 80% is free.

WesWhy do you go to Thailand then?

I have friends like George, bar owners as well asfriends and people I trust. Also the Buddhist way of life, the need to travel, which from here only 300 RT, so why not. I actually like the guys here better as far as communications being they all speak English and much less misunderstandings. However, how do you trade 10 years of Bangkok Pattaya and the friends you have made for a place you have only been 3 months. Honestly, I cannot think of better friends and bar owners anywhere in the world than there. At least the ones I know in Sunee. I have never had any bar in my life do what Memories bar did for my birthday, the best I ever got was a free drink for my birthday at any bar and they provided me with unending work and treated me like I was their best friend although they had never met me until I showed up with George. Mark , not knowing me went out of his way to find the perfect boy for me at Krazy dragon. Oud made sure I got some of moms cooking and also was at the party although he had to leave his place of business to be there. I get the guys here, but when there I am treated like royalty, something I never got at BBB and spent twice as much money. I was just another sex tourist to them. To these guys they treat you as if it is your last trip. I am not sure you can trade that kind of treatment for a good deal. I will always be back to Thailand it has a magical quality to it. Almost like, it really is Siam, not just Thailand, at times, I think the rugs will fly like the cartoons when I was a kid.

I am not saying Manila is perfect, I am saying it is an option for someone who is operating on a lower budget. There are sneaky guys who come home with you then after sex tell you they are money boys. I pay their taxi home and call it a lesson learned. However, to me the main difference is the ability to communicate with the boy, not a mamasaun. I have had guys this week that brought their lover along, All I paid was the taxi. They gave me a show and took me in as if it was a porn flick. It really was erotic to no end. Almost everyone from the site guys4 men will cam with you first and show you what you are getting before you meet ( http://www.guys4men.com/?m_id=1438535 ) if you use this to set up a profile I get sit points that move my picture to the front of the online now pages I get 30 40 hits a day 10 % will meet me for free on the weekend, I could meet them here at the condo, but I play safe and always meet in public where people that know me also know who I am going home with.

Therefore, here or there, you trade the magic of Thailand with the pragmatism of horny guys looking for a way to go out and taxi fare is all they need usually 250 or less. It is up to me if I want to pay their drinks or not or their way in bars that have cover charges. Nevertheless, I have found almost no one that insists I do anything more than I am willing to pay for.

In Thailand its more business, with that you get more control for your guy, protection of the bar owner if something goes wrong, here you re own you own and usually a big smiles will get you most any man you like. Monday night he manager was passign out free shots to the good sustomers that tip well. The Guys are every bit as accepting of older guys as are the Thai. Occasionally, you run into some one that says you are an old man, I reply, did you think I did not know that slready and laugh.

So, I like both, for various reasons, I like the weather here the prices here and the men, but I don't know any where I am treated any better than Thailand in the whole world that I have traveled in. I can picture everyone of the bar owners I know and can say they really go out of their way to make you feel at home and get you the guy you like. Here it is much as if it was when you were young and you could pick and choose whom you like. I have two bfтАЩs and both have an open relationship with me. Therefore, I am taken care of during the week by them then on the weekend I play with the ones I meet on http://www.guys4men.com/?m_id=1438535. Its international, I am surprised that Thais are not using it since it is free. I never have to contact a guy, they contact me. Some are money boys but most are not and are just looking for fun in bed 30% are 18 or 19 the rest are under 28 for me. If you fill out the complete profile, you will find that there are many with seven inchers (I met one with 7.5) and quite a few of them. Nevertheless, there are also the small, seems to be if they have the Italian gens or of American genome of the European Heritage you get what that brgs with it, bigger dicks. It was colonized by sain , American twice and then manay chinese who mixed here with them as well. many are 6 ft tall , My guy is 6 ft tall and absolutly georgous. The other is short and 19. Energy to spare and above average dick as well.

Hope this anwers all your questions!! if not PM me.

All the best!

Wes

I don't do this, but I read on this site a post from someone who had a rule of thumn for paying a boy. The rule was that he paid the boy any where between 50% and 100% of the price that he was paying for his hotel room per night during his stay in town. So if I'm staying at the Oriental $300 a night, he would pay the boy between $150 and $300. If he way staying at a cheaper place, say $50 a night them he would adjust his offering down.

I thought this was reasonable. If you can afford a nice hotel... you can afford a "nicer" time with a "nicer" boy and should pay accordingly.

- ajarntrade

I don't know where in Berlin you're talking about, but if it's a house of boys, more like 3 x 10 EUR for Coca-Colas for yourself, the boy, and the bar owner (who will invite you to buy him a drink). Then EUR 75 for one hour with the boy.

Blue Boy (Eisenacher Strasse), Pinnochio & whatever the third RB bar is called charge sensible prices for drinks & some of the freelancers go for Eur 40~60.
I also visited the "House of Boys", which had 2 boys, expensive drinks & just one other customer.

I prefer Thailand a lot, but can't get to Thailand on a 2 hour flight.

I don't do this, but I read on this site a post from someone who had a rule of thumn for paying a boy. The rule was that he paid the boy any where between 50% and 100% of the price that he was paying for his hotel room per night during his stay in town. So if I'm staying at the Oriental $300 a night, he would pay the boy between $150 and $300. If he way staying at a cheaper place, say $50 a night them he would adjust his offering down. I thought this was reasonable. If you can afford a nice hotel... you can afford a "nicer" time with a "nicer" boy and should pay accordingly.This sounds like an excellent idea. I see from another thread that some members stayed at a new hotel in Silom for 1700 baht a night, which means they should have paid only 850 baht for a boy. Maybe they can tell us how successful that was.

[pong]

so mr: curious; how about doing that in the cheap hotels in Pattaya-costing about 350/400 THB/room/night. (acrtually theyre not that bad, Ive used them many times-in the past). Or that other HTL quite near Silom (also does short-time rooms) for 850?950 or so?
But for myself- regularly visitor since 1988-wonder why the -in fora like this presented as ''the new level'' prices keep on rising in Thailand-whereas in the west they remain remarkably stable through the years-very much like the 500 Bt. short-time freelancers at SaranRom or ThaPae-as long as I know (even when the US$ was 25 bt and there was no EURO yet).
But for real cheap; try Indonesia-not just Bali. often the 50 bt mobile fone card is enough- and no Phill style taximoney-but just the humble rickshaw