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Wesley
October 8th, 2008, 17:45
That is a question for some of the Bangkok regulars such as Homiturn, in fact I would say he has a better knowlege of this as well as Mr. O'Booze to commnet on this. It would be worth your time to PM them both. I am not sure what a key word would be to do a search and they have it of the top of thier heads. If the decription of Homiturn is correct that is all he has on top of his head. I would also check for the brown lips syndrome, since he is generally mentioned as sitting on guys faces. I can't imagin asking them to do that and not return the favor.

I can tell you, the guys are out side the bar for a reason and its usally they can't pass a drug test or have other moral problems , or some have just gotten to old to make it any more. but you are safe or, safer with a guy you off in the a bar than the street guys.


Wes

thrillbill
October 8th, 2008, 18:10
last time i in BKK i was going to Soi Twlight..... found it so expensive to have a drink and take a boy..i ended up getting a boy from bar outside gogo bars ...is there a better place to go drink cheaper and find a boy i not been anywhere except twlight...thanks guys
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If you find that expensive, you better stay home...but I suppose you could go to McDonald's to buy a small Coke and pick up one of those free lancers on the steps after 2am in front of McDonald's.

Wesley
October 8th, 2008, 18:28
I met a guy similar except I offed him, we were semi lovers for over a year, until I found a guy next door who became my lover. I spend 2 weeks with him and it was as you say a great off and a great guy, we did everythign together, the water market and all the tourist traps neadrby, one of the best two weeks in my life. I ened up setting him up in a business which failed. But, now he is running a massage parlor. He was not the best looking guy I ever met , but certianly had a wonderful heart. Sometimes the looks and a great heart out weigh the rest of wht we go for in Thailand. I still have all the pictures of the two weeks and locked away from the kids in my room, there they will stay until I die and soemone has to go though my stuff to throw it away.

You are exactly right, I can only hope I do as well this two weeks while I am here this time. I tend to stick with guys I feel comfortable with. I hope I find one the first night I am there. It will save a lot of looking for that perfect someone, for sure. Looks really aren't everything, in that you are so right. I never dreamed when I offed him it would be as it was. I honestly picked him because I had looked all night for the perfect guy, only to learn the lesson of picking early or you end up with what the others have left behind. In this case and liekly yours, it was one of the best thigns that ever happend to me. It retored the hope that in life there are people out there who are good looking and who you can find with a heart and genuine love for you. We still talk now, 7 years later and I plan to see him when I go this time;When I figure out with another board member, what day we are going to Bangkok to see Kevin, I will try to meet Noi for a few miniutes as well.

Wes

October 8th, 2008, 20:27
As there is a very good washroom scene going on in Thailand and now we have so many more Middle Class guys, who dont need to Prostitute themselves, as you will notice even the Star Go Go Bar in Thailand. "Future Boys" & Boys of Bangkok a few years ago use to have the most stunning Guys in the world, now very few if at all, even Tawan Boys is only a watered down Product of its previous self, with many of the so called Muscle guys looking Plump to many, where before they use to have stunners of all types with firmed up bodies, now only seem to have medium looking ones. and some of them in there 40s now.
Where as now days as there is many more Truly Bi- Sexual guys in Thailand, unlike the west where it is frowned on, or your made to feel like a pervert, in Thailand there is no stigma it is quite a good thing to have a guy now and again, even many tell there wives or girlfriends and they are happy it is not another lady.
So many seem to go to washrooms in places like Lotus, On Nut or Big C Chitlom and so many others Malls and shopping centers also larger garages, where your not only find the stunning guys of years ago as use to be in the bars, your be amazed how they want a farang of all ages, you'd think they dont want me I'm over 50 but that's not true, its as if they think we are all well built and many want as they think "I have had to try a farang" as they hear they are good at being Bottom which to them does not always mean you take it. it means you do all the work.

Try cruisingforsex dot com Asia, Thailand, forum, your soon see what I mean.

If your not into cruising for sex and its the same as fishing, some times you only get a small one, others a whopper, if your prepared to wait long enough, apart from that most guys, many for free, look on gayromeo, gaydar, just add them to your MSN and all the cruise free web profile sites, for sex and they will cum round to see you?

October 8th, 2008, 21:15
As there is a very good washroom scene going on in Thailand and now we have so many more Middle Class guys, who dont need to Prostitute themselves, as you will notice even the Star Go Go Bar in Thailand. "Future Boys" & Boys of Bangkok a few years ago use to have the most stunning Guys in the world, now very few if at all, even Tawan Boys is only a watered down Product of its previous self, with many of the so called Muscle guys looking Plump to many, where before they use to have stunners of all types with firmed up bodies, now only seem to have medium looking ones. and some of them in there 40s now.
Where as now days as there is many more Truly Bi- Sexual guys in Thailand, unlike the west where it is frowned on, or your made to feel like a pervert, in Thailand there is no stigma it is quite a good thing to have a guy now and again, even many tell there wives or girlfriends and they are happy it is not another lady.
So many seem to go to washrooms in places like Lotus, On Nut or Big C Chitlom and so many others Malls and shopping centers also larger garages, where your not only find the stunning guys of years ago as use to be in the bars, your be amazed how they want a farang of all ages, you'd think they dont want me I'm over 50 but that's not true, its as if they think we are all well built and many want as they think "I have had to try a farang" as they hear they are good at being Bottom which to them does not always mean you take it. it means you do all the work.

yeah, just what Thailand needs, more old queers hanging around the public toilets. great PR for the rest of the gay community, great ammunition for the anti-gay lobby (dont worry, it exists here in Thailand too).
follow the above advice, and see how open minded and understanding the security guys at the shopping centres really are.

October 8th, 2008, 21:24
found it so expensive to have a drink and take a boy

You're going to be real popular here.

TrongpaiExpat
October 8th, 2008, 21:27
There's the bars off Silom soi 6. Then there's all the saunas or try a massage venue. The discos, G star and the door have been active. Soi Twilight is not the only game in town.

October 8th, 2008, 22:13
dave_syd says:

yeah, just what Thailand needs, more old queers hanging around the public toilets. great PR for the rest of the gay community, great ammunition for the anti-gay lobby (dont worry, it exists here in Thailand too).
follow the above advice, and see how open minded and understanding the security guys at the shopping centres really are.[/quote]


You really are out of touch. if you see how many hundreds are at it. you would be amazed, security keeps it to the minimum, worst I've seen over the years is the Ladies Mop Brigade Army, who come in ever 15 minutes, to clean, but if its not your taste, dont worry, I'm sure no one will bother you there, as there is always the many Babylon type saunas, where its a wonderment to me how they find an old man sexy, but then I do keep my tummy pulled in all the time. :geek:

October 8th, 2008, 22:26
"security keeps it to the minimum" or "I'm sure no one will bother you there" - which is it?

yes, i am very much out of touch with the hanging around public toilets scene. thankfully.

from reading the cruisingforsex website, they do talk about an increased presence of security at many of the shopping centres, in fact it seems to be one of the main discussion points regarding cruising the bathrooms. "AYOR" - at your own risk- seems to be about the most common phrase used there. And there are second hand reports on that same site of westerners being escorted away by security. there are much easier and lower risk opportunities for sex around in BKK.

October 8th, 2008, 22:49
"security keeps it to the minimum" or "I'm sure no one will bother you there" - which is it?

yes, i am very much out of touch with the hanging around public toilets scene. thankfully.

from reading the cruisingforsex website, they do talk about an increased presence of security at many of the shopping centres, in fact it seems to be one of the main discussion points regarding cruising the bathrooms. "AYOR" - at your own risk- seems to be about the most common phrase used there. And there are second hand reports on that same site of westerners being escorted away by security. there are much easier and lower risk opportunities for sex around in BKK.

Yes very rarely they escort them off the premises, tell themm not to cum back, they dont want bad publicity, but this is in the most obvious Silom centers, never in the less obvious Lotus, Bang kapi or the Moll and outer Bangkok lotus' some guys are so over powering, they are not discreet at all, for a guy who says he deplores washroom sex, you must have been reading cruising for sex for a while, as this info is at the bottom, in 2007 there's not much now hostile security these days.

October 9th, 2008, 01:41
I can tell you, the guys are out side the bar for a reason and its usally they can't pass a drug test or have other moral problems , or some have just gotten to old to make it any more. but you are safe or, safer with a guy you off in the a bar than the street guys.


Wes

After spending my last night making the rounds at DJ Station and G.O.D., I decided to make my way back to the hotel along Rama IV.

It was late, around 4am, there were a few boys sitting along the side of the street. One guy caught my attention only because he was the size of a gorilla. He approached me, we chatted and ended up going back to the hotel. As it turns out he works at Tawan. He didn't have any customers all that week, (April), said it was slow. He told me he often goes there after the bars close, as well as some of the other guys. I know taste is a personal thing, but this guy was a hunk so it must have been really slow for him not to have had any customers.

He didn't look like he belonged on the street and that's probably the only reason I went with him. Other than that, as erotic as fantasies go, I don't think I would chance taking back a guy off the street.

Brad the Impala
October 9th, 2008, 02:22
As there is a very good washroom scene going on in Thailand and now we have so many more Middle Class guys, who dont need to Prostitute themselves, as you will notice even the Star Go Go Bar in Thailand. "Future Boys" & Boys of Bangkok a few years ago use to have the most stunning Guys in the world, now very few if at all, even Tawan Boys is only a watered down Product of its previous self, with many of the so called Muscle guys looking Plump to many, where before they use to have stunners of all types with firmed up bodies, now only seem to have medium looking ones. and some of them in there 40s now.
Where as now days as there is many more Truly Bi- Sexual guys in Thailand, unlike the west where it is frowned on, or your made to feel like a pervert, in Thailand there is no stigma it is quite a good thing to have a guy now and again, even many tell there wives or girlfriends and they are happy it is not another lady.
So many seem to go to washrooms in places like Lotus, On Nut or Big C Chitlom and so many others Malls and shopping centers also larger garages, where your not only find the stunning guys of years ago as use to be in the bars, your be amazed how they want a farang of all ages, you'd think they dont want me I'm over 50 but that's not true, its as if they think we are all well built and many want as they think "I have had to try a farang" as they hear they are good at being Bottom which to them does not always mean you take it. it means you do all the work.

Try cruisingforsex dot com Asia, Thailand, forum, your soon see what I mean.

If your not into cruising for sex and its the same as fishing, some times you only get a small one, others a whopper, if your prepared to wait long enough, apart from that most guys, many for free, look on gayromeo, gaydar, just add them to your MSN and all the cruise free web profile sites, for sex and they will cum round to see you?

Return of LMTU!

October 9th, 2008, 02:32
Isn't it slightly over prudent if you can afford to get to Thailand, but then find the standard Thai tip & off fee is too much?

Think you are stuck with freelancers, an even cheaper country like Cambodia or finding a way to increase your budget.

Wasn't there a place near the Royal Palace with freelancers going for 500bht ?

October 9th, 2008, 05:49
There is always the back of the restaurant/coffee bar at the Malaysia midnight onwards.

October 9th, 2008, 05:54
There is always the back of the restaurant/coffee bar at the Malaysia midnight onwards.

I wandered over there after closing and sat in a restaurant next to the lobby. Is there another place inside the hotel?

October 9th, 2008, 06:23
You need to go to the very back of the restaurant. Just look around and you will soon see the boys smiling at you every time you glance their way. Take your time and if anyone is to your liking give him a smile, a small nod of your head and glance at the empty chair next to you. It will be occupied in a flash. If he is not what you hoped for give him a small tip (Bt100) and start again.

October 9th, 2008, 07:20
If you can afford to fly into BKK and dtay in hotel why cann't you afford to pay what is due.

Go-Go Bars, Malls and streets after 1pm are best choice.

Or develop contacts over the net for University or college students

camperboy
October 9th, 2008, 08:46
I can tell you, the guys are out side the bar for a reason and its usally they can't pass a drug test or have other moral problems , or some have just gotten to old to make it any more. but you are safe or, safer with a guy you off in the a bar than the street guys.


Wes

After spending my last night making the rounds at DJ Station and G.O.D., I decided to make my way back to the hotel along Rama IV.

It was late, around 4am, there were a few boys sitting along the side of the street. One guy caught my attention only because he was the size of a gorilla. He approached me, we chatted and ended up going back to the hotel. As it turns out he works at Tawan. He didn't have any customers all that week, (April), said it was slow. He told me he often goes there after the bars close, as well as some of the other guys. I know taste is a personal thing, but this guy was a hunk so it must have been really slow for him not to have had any customers.

He didn't look like he belonged on the street and that's probably the only reason I went with him. Other than that, as erotic as fantasies go, I don't think I would chance taking back a guy off the street.

wow....april was a bad month huh ....

October 9th, 2008, 09:33
wow....april was a bad month huh ....

For the bar boys, I guess.

There were plenty of guys partying it up on the Tuesday night, but I was already with someone. The next night, Thursday, there were a lot of guys out, but none really that stood out as well a different crowd. I didn't recognize any from the night before, except the bar staff. After DJ, I followed some boys over to G.O.D., but it closed about 10 minutes after I walked in. A couple cuties from the Emirates tried to pick me outside on Silom, but I just wasn't there. Really prefer the boy next door types.

Soi Twilight wasn't anything special that night. I had walked through a few places, some were busy with shows, others were empty and lots of touts out front.

I've haven't been in BKK during peak season, but I think I prefer being around when the tourist numbers are lower, more space to sit.

camperboy
October 9th, 2008, 10:17
wow....april was a bad month huh ....

For the bar boys, I guess.

There were plenty of guys partying it up on the Tuesday night, but I was already with someone. The next night, Thursday, there were a lot of guys out, but none really that stood out as well a different crowd. I didn't recognize any from the night before, except the bar staff. After DJ, I followed some boys over to G.O.D., but it closed about 10 minutes after I walked in. A couple cuties from the Emirates tried to pick me outside on Silom, but I just wasn't there. Really prefer the boy next door types.

Soi Twilight wasn't anything special that night. I had walked through a few places, some were busy with shows, others were empty and lots of touts out front.

I've haven't been in BKK during peak season, but I think I prefer being around when the tourist numbers are lower, more space to sit.

i wonder if october now is a bad month for them.. hehehe

October 9th, 2008, 13:31
Yes with some friends last night we went to "GOD" late after dinner and "Jupiter 2000" even a guy was trying to pick me up an over 50 year old with bald head, I'm always amazed when I take friends to a bar or dance Place and its as if I was a teenager again back in the States. I dont know so much about pattaya as I have only been 3 or 4 times, but I know in the Saunas in BKK I have to fight handsome guys off. a friend tells me there is now a good sauna in Pattaya so much fun had by all, they seem a bit to slim for me there?

thrillbill
October 9th, 2008, 21:11
Wes[/quote]

After spending my last night making the rounds at DJ Station and G.O.D., I decided to make my way back to the hotel along Rama IV.

It was late, around 4am, there were a few boys sitting along the side of the street. One guy caught my attention only because he was the size of a gorilla. He approached me, we chatted and ended up going back to the hotel. As it turns out he works at Tawan. He didn't have any customers all that week, (April), said it was slow. He told me he often goes there after the bars close, as well as some of the other guys. I know taste is a personal thing, but this guy was a hunk so it must have been really slow for him not to have had any customers.

He didn't look like he belonged on the street and that's probably the only reason I went with him. Other than that, as erotic as fantasies go, I don't think I would chance taking back a guy off the street.[/quote]
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Sounds like the steroid beef boy that always is in that area of silom wearing the (one and only??) navy blue T shirt that says, "US Marines".

October 9th, 2008, 23:50
You need to go to the very back of the restaurant. Just look around and you will soon see the boys smiling at you every time you glance their way. Take your time and if anyone is to your liking give him a smile, a small nod of your head and glance at the empty chair next to you. It will be occupied in a flash. If he is not what you hoped for give him a small tip (Bt100) and start again.


where are these guys talking about help me out plz


The Malaysia is a hotel closer to MRT station Lumpini. From what I've read it's popular with gay tourists and apparently there's a coffee shop/restaurant that stays open quite late at night an is quite cruisey.

I stopped by one night and had a bite to eat, but didn't really see much going on. I'm told I didn't go far enough into the hotel or restaurant.

October 11th, 2008, 05:00
thanks is there any other money boy areas that like thisJust sit at Telephone Bar or Balcony of an evening - a pot of tea or coffee will last you forever, so I'm told. The boys will find you!

October 11th, 2008, 08:02
... still dont understand some words ... example farangYou will hear "farang" or its down-market equivalent "falang" out of the mouths of Thais all the time, and sometimes from foreigners who think they're being sophisticated using Thai words in an English conversation. It means Westerner or Caucasian. "Tout" you can look up in any dictionary

October 11th, 2008, 08:09
so whats a telephone barInstead of wasting people's time, try the online resources at www.dreadedned.com (http://www.dreadedned.com) or www.utopia-asia.com (http://www.utopia-asia.com)

October 11th, 2008, 08:35
there always one hemorrhoid in these places ...seems i found himCongratulations!

andrewcraig
October 11th, 2008, 09:31
so whats a telephone barInstead of wasting people's time, try the online resources at www.dreadedned.com (http://www.dreadedned.com) or www.utopia-asia.com (http://www.utopia-asia.com)

how am i wasting peoples time isnt this what this site about asking a question.... if you don't want to answer just don't ...there always one hemorrhoid in these places ...seems i found him

You are not wasting time coming here to ask a question or for help. On this board some arse holes tend to think their ego is more important that the board , and don't like new posters taking away the limelight from their own witty asides. A recent poll has bloated some egos out of size.

Telephone Bar and the Malaysia Hotel were well established when I first came to BKK in 1990. Telephone bar had about
about 25 booths /tables with old fashioned telephones handsets from which you could ring any table and chat to the boy of your choice. I rarely go inside preferring to sit at an outside table there or across the soi [soi 4 silom road] at the Balcony bar. There are a lot of freelance boys working soi 4 and most of the waiters are offable. Usually you have to wait until the waiter finishes his shift Malaysia can be a long walk from Silom on a hot day but get used to the motorbike taxis to go back and forth. Malaysia does have a lot of freelancers over a 24 hour period. It is just arounfd the corner from Babylon sauna which should be your first stop in BKK

Smiles
October 11th, 2008, 09:58
Although I wouldn't be quite so insensitive as our resident face-sitter has been above, I think the general advice of doing an internet search is hardly a bad idea. I mean come on guys ... the phrasing of the question (specifically the Telephone Bar thing) like this: " ... so what's a telephone bar ... " seems pretty suspicious to me.

But anyway, not to attribute motives ... if you just did a Google search of 'Telephone Bar Bangkok' you'd come up with this: http://www.telephonepub.com/TPindex.htm . Gee ... it's the actual website of the place! Duh!
And I'd imagine the same thing (i.e. Googling) will be found for Balcony (bar/restaurant ... yep, right here http://www.balconypub.com/ ), DJ Station (disco ... uh huh same same http://www.dj-station.com/ ), Malaysia Hotel (gay hotel ... hmmm .. http://www.malaysiahotelbkk.com/ ), Babylon (Sauna/massage ... Sarah Pallin said it best: "you betcha!" http://babylonbangkok.com/home.html ), just to name a few Bangkokian gay icons.
Wouldn't doing that seem to be a reasonable thing to do?

Not sure about gra45 ...

Cheers ...

lonelywombat
October 11th, 2008, 10:33
gra45 at the top of the page is a button "ignore'

You click on a poster's name in a thread and then ignore. Then you never see his negative remarks again

October 11th, 2008, 10:36
ok im new to Bkk i had a fair idea about telephone bar but unsure ...thats why we have this forum isnt it smiles.... also im new to gay seen anywhere as i have not been to a gay area before so yer im new ...but my tips to guys like you is to be like andrewcraig who has been so helpful and polite not like that hemorrhoid that takes over a website like this This is just Bad Boy Billy or some other time waster, isn't it?

lonelywombat
October 11th, 2008, 10:43
ok im new to Bkk i had a fair idea about telephone bar but unsure ...thats why we have this forum isnt it smiles.... also im new to gay seen anywhere as i have not been to a gay area before so yer im new ...but my tips to guys like you is to be like andrewcraig who has been so helpful and polite not like that hemorrhoid that takes over a website like this This is just Bad Boy Billy or some other time waster, isn't it?

Strange people probably thought that about you when you were asking questions about Chardonnay

Please define a time waster, it would be enlightening to hear your thoughts

Beachlover
October 11th, 2008, 11:17
Telephone Bar and the Malaysia Hotel were well established when I first came to BKK in 1990. Telephone bar had about
about 25 booths /tables with old fashioned telephones handsets from which you could ring any table and chat to the boy of your choice. I rarely go inside preferring to sit at an outside table there or across the soi [soi 4 silom road] at the Balcony bar. There are a lot of freelance boys working soi 4 and most of the waiters are offable. Usually you have to wait until the waiter finishes his shift Malaysia can be a long walk from Silom on a hot day but get used to the motorbike taxis to go back and forth. Malaysia does have a lot of freelancers over a 24 hour period. It is just arounfd the corner from Babylon sauna which should be your first stop in BKK

So that explains it lol

I thought the telephones were for show

October 11th, 2008, 17:25
Don't worry Gra45. I have been reading this forum for some time. I also recently joined. There are piles of hemmorroids out there. I take it that English is not your mother tongue. No worries. Do a search on the various sites and this should let you in on all the places you mentioned. As you wil note there is a disparity in prices. The beers in Soi Twilight is expensive but then we didn't realy go there for the beer did we?

If you go to Lebua hotel the beer there is 500baht.

October 11th, 2008, 17:36
ok im new to Bkk i had a fair idea about telephone bar but unsure ...thats why we have this forum isnt it smiles.... also im new to gay seen anywhere as i have not been to a gay area before so yer im new ...but my tips to guys like you is to be like andrewcraig who has been so helpful and polite not like that hemorrhoid that takes over a website like this This is just Bad Boy Billy or some other time waster, isn't it?

Certainly looks that way. The "I'm a innocent newbie" stance, asserting a particular raison d'etre of the board is not new either.

lonelywombat
October 12th, 2008, 13:29
hmmm is soi twilight a bar or a street ..where i was is a short street with many gogo bars at start street on both sides are a bar sit and have a beer ..up a little further the gogo bars on left hand side another small bar with 1 pool table in it with some computers ...so where was i at ?????? sorry but as i said was only there 1 night as i was in Bkk stopover to home

This map on dreadedned.com is not accurate or up to date but it is a good beginning
soi duangthawee between 13 and 14 is soi twilight for some reason only 2 bars are shown out of a busy soi
http://dreadedned.com/directory/map/1/1/

Twilight bar was the first go go bar I went to in Bangkok almost 20 years ago, it was first in that street on the corner and was the first bar I saw male nudity on stage in BKK The unofficial name for the soi was added in the last few years maybe by a poster on this forum Same as the name soi prostitute The go go bars get under way after 9PM

Early evening the action is in the main soi 4 off silom road Balcony and telephone bar are the 2 biggest and best known bars, cafe and places to pick up high price freelancers It is less crowded in busier times to use Thaniya to go between the the two main roads

DJ Station a disco with many freelance boys is a 7 night per week instituition Remember picking up away from a go go bar is AYOR

llz
October 12th, 2008, 15:53
This map on dreadedned.com is not accurate or up to date but it is a good beginning
soi duangthawee between 13 and 14 is soi twilight for some reason only 2 bars are shown out of a busy soi
http://dreadedned.com/directory/map/1/1/
If you have a closer look you will see that although the map shows only one place on either side of the soi, the details below the map list many bars under the same number. For example on 13 you have Dick's Caf├й, Fresh Boys, Future Boys, X Boys and Bonny Massage ; the Soi Twilight regulars could correct and complete the list if needed (Bangkok Massage Boys seems to be missing).

October 12th, 2008, 17:37
There are piles of hemmorroids out there.

No pun intended?

October 13th, 2008, 16:08
Thought never crossed my mind!