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August 25th, 2008, 19:11
Internet cafes must also collect information, such as identity and log-in time, on its customers

Bangkok Post
Wednesday, August 13, 2008
By King-oua Laohong

From Aug 23, private firms, organisations and government agencies will be required to store all internet traffic data for 90 days so it is available as digital evidence for police. Pol Col Yannapol Youngyuen, commander of the Bureau of Technology and Cyber Crime at the Department of Special Investigation, said the IT Ministry order has no exceptions and will include banks, hotels, schools and internet cafes.

He said digital evidence gathered from computers is useful in tracking those engaged in cyber crime.

Cyber offences, ranging from email forwarding of pornographic pictures to posting libellous messages on forums, are on the rise, Pol Col Yannapol said, but police agencies find it hard to gather the evidence to bring the perpetrators to justice.

He said internet cafes will also be required to collect information to identify computer users, such as ID cards, time of logging in and sites visited. Shops that fail to heed the rules will face fines up to 500,000 baht, he said.

http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article-southeastasia.asp?parentid=95909

So will we have to take our passport to the internet shop now? I didn't.

Beachlover
August 25th, 2008, 20:23
This is stricter than anywhere else I know of.

Silom has a post on his blog about it: http://gayboythailand.com/bangkok-thail ... -internet/ (http://gayboythailand.com/bangkok-thailand/passport-needed-to-use-the-internet/)

dab69
August 26th, 2008, 05:17
Balcony sent notice it is closing it's "computer area" upstairs because of this.

krobbie
August 26th, 2008, 13:05
Let's hope this invasion of privacy doesn't last long. What a bloody hassle. Every time you want to check your email when traveling you have to show passport and write down name and what time you arrive and what time you finish.

I know the reasons for this ... internet fraud and the seeking of sights on certain subjects. I would think internet fraud would be less than the unsubtle and blatant corruption that goes on in Thailand daily.

Yesterday my guy went to the internet shop that we have been going to in Sathorn and he said out of the 25 staitions, there were only 5 people using the computers. It is usually packed. I guess this will lead to the demise of some internet shops. People just can't be bothered.

We will see how long this law lasts.

krobbie

August 26th, 2008, 13:21
Let's hope this invasion of privacy doesn't last long. What a bloody hassle. Every time you want to check your email when traveling you have to show passport and write down name and what time you arrive and what time you finish.Those of us with long memories recall the last fiasco of this sort, when everyone with a pre-paid SIM card had to have it registered with the government. That didn't last long, largely because it relied on the phone operators to enforce - and they weren't going to lose any revenue over it. For those who can be bothered among the "I photocopy my passport and laminate the copy" brigade, I suggest you make up some false ID before you arrive in Thailand and just take that along - Internet cafe owners wouldn't know the real thing anyway. As well, True are starting to offer city-wide WiFi, so those with laptops can simply avoid all that nonsense anyway by getting True access - just send some boy alog with the money to register for the pre-paid service - http://www.aboutthailand.info/isp.asp

Any moment now Chao Na will come out of the woodwork and in typical brown-nose fashion tell us why this law is A Good Thing

August 26th, 2008, 22:24
It's amazing how fast bad ideas can get around.

Anyway as soon as they all decide this waste of time could cause everyone more work it will have disappeared.

Lunchtime O'Booze
August 26th, 2008, 23:04
Let's hope this invasion of privacy doesn't last long. What a bloody hassle. Every time you want to check your email when traveling you have to show passport and write down name and what time you arrive and what time you finish.

I know the reasons for this ... internet fraud and the seeking of sights on certain subjects. I would think internet fraud would be less than the unsubtle and blatant corruption that goes on in Thailand daily.

Yesterday my guy went to the internet shop that we have been going to in Sathorn and he said out of the 25 staitions, there were only 5 people using the computers. It is usually packed. I guess this will lead to the demise of some internet shops. People just can't be bothered.

We will see how long this law lasts.

krobbie

I reckon this is something that we wil start to see in the Western world as well. Already in Australia there is talk of something similar..some sort of system I read about where I believe the isp operators must block porn etc and you subscribe or something to be able to access it..rather than the other way around.

I've been saying it for years but will you queens ever listen ??..all this child porn busts etc is an excuse leading up to a "something must be done" scenario

terrorism/porn/ .. Thailand is doing exactly what I thought would happen. Bet the FBI are behind this..

thank God I'm very old and very drunk.

August 27th, 2008, 00:03
I reckon this is something that we wil start to see in the Western world as well. Already in Australia there is talk of something similar..some sort of system I read about where I believe the isp operators must block porn etc and you subscribe or something to be able to access it..rather than the other way around.

I've been saying it for years but will you queens ever listen ??..all this child porn busts etc is an excuse leading up to a "something must be done" scenario

terrorism/porn/ .. Thailand is doing exactly what I thought would happen. Bet the FBI are behind this..

thank God I'm very old and very drunk.

In many ways, the queens are getting their comeuppance. How long will it be before the law against prostitution starts to be enforced for those selling sexual favors on the streets, in the bars, and on the internet. The noose has only begun to tighten.
This is going to be another cash cow for the cops, and a huge one at that. I can see the hand of NGOs in this caper too. They have to keep the pot constantly stirred to rake in the money.
Stay drunk Lunchtime!

August 27th, 2008, 02:16
Bangkok Post
Wednesday, August 13, 2008


From Aug 23, private firms, organisations and government agencies will be required to store all internet traffic data for 90 days


Do they really mean that? My internet connection is not all that fast, but in the last few days it has carried over 20Gbytes of internet traffic - what with downloading the olympics final, some voip calls, etc, etc. In 90 days I could fill one of these new terrabyte drives easily. No way can my ISP store that lot for everyone. Does anyone know what the law actually says?

August 27th, 2008, 03:26
Let's hope this invasion of privacy doesn't last long. What a bloody hassle. Every time you want to check your email when traveling you have to show passport and write down name and what time you arrive and what time you finish.Those of us with long memories recall the last fiasco of this sort, when everyone with a pre-paid SIM card had to have it registered with the government. That didn't last long, largely because it relied on the phone operators to enforce - and they weren't going to lose any revenue over it. For those who can be bothered among the "I photocopy my passport and laminate the copy" brigade, I suggest you make up some false ID before you arrive in Thailand and just take that along - Internet cafe owners wouldn't know the real thing anyway. As well, True are starting to offer city-wide WiFi, so those with laptops can simply avoid all that nonsense anyway by getting True access - just send some boy alog with the money to register for the pre-paid service - http://www.aboutthailand.info/isp.asp

Any moment now Chao Na will come out of the woodwork and in typical brown-nose fashion tell us why this law is A Good Thing


.......... and in the course of his diatribe he will tell us all that we have nothing to fear unless we have something to hide and will also manage to mention Sunee Plaza at least half a dozen times.

August 27th, 2008, 03:55
.......... and in the course of his diatribe he will tell us all that we have nothing to fear unless we have something to hide and will also manage to mention Sunee Plaza at least half a dozen times.You forgot to mention that he will reveal his name and address - after all, what has he to fear?

August 29th, 2008, 23:25
Well, it's August 28th by now. Has anyone been troubled?

August 30th, 2008, 02:33
Well, it's August 28th by now. Has anyone been troubled?

I've been constipated for 5 days worrying about it

August 30th, 2008, 05:46
Well, it's August 28th by now. Has anyone been troubled?My connection's an ADSL line at home; I guess the weary world travelers amongst us who lurk at Internet cafes will be telling us their stories of woe some time soon

August 30th, 2008, 06:15
Well, it's August 28th by now. Has anyone been troubled?My connection's an ADSL line at home.

No doubt possibly the only thing you do have or ever have had connection with.

Have a nice weekend Hommie dear. http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk216/ThaiRakThai/__MLisa3.gif


George.

August 30th, 2008, 09:57
No doubt possibly the only thing you do have or ever have had connection withIt was Forster I think who said "Only connect" - http://musicandmeaning.com/forster/