Candle T-spa need you

Something's up at the Candle T-spa and massage yesterday. The proprietor is all beaten up, large black bruising all around the jaw line. I can't imagine, I know he was having trouble with the competition awhile ago. Something else strange all the competition now also call themselves Candle T something or other. A bit confusing.

I worry him, he is such a nice person, but he has lost all joy and his smile is all gone already. I wanted to ask but he didn't want to talk about much at all. He look me in the eyes like he want to cry instead. The "boys" also seem to want intimidate him.

I hope someone can look him up and see he OK tonight at least. I scared I too far away.

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Sounds like a lot of wild assumptions and rumor-mongering on the part of our young friend Cedric.

Candle T Spa (http://www.aboutg.net/candle-t/contact.htm)

The website gives links to "Friends" : Timeless Tunnel Spa and Gent's Spa. They are in the same area.

[TOQ]

Something's up at the Candle T-spa and massage yesterday. The proprietor is all beaten up, large black bruising all around the jaw line. I can't imagine, I know he was having trouble with the competition awhile ago. Something else strange all the competition now also call themselves Candle T something or other. A bit confusing.

I worry him, he is such a nice person, but he has lost all joy and his smile is all gone already. I wanted to ask but he didn't want to talk about much at all. He look me in the eyes like he want to cry instead. The "boys" also seem to want intimidate him.

I hope someone can look him up and see he OK tonight at least. I scared I too far away.


Is it just me but the style, grammer and syntax of this post doesn't sound at all like his other posts ? Maybe Ive had one too many G/Ts

john

[Irish1972]

Is it just me but the style, grammer and syntax of this post doesn't sound at all like his other posts ? Maybe Ive had one too many G/Ts

I thought the very same thing, and I am sober! :geek:

[TrongpaiExpat]

Can anyone that has been to Candle-T fill me in with what kind of massage venue this is? Specifically:

1. Do you choose your masseur or are they assigned?
2. How are they dressed or do they get undressed from the start?
3. Is this a chuck-wow happy ending place after a decent massage or just an excuse for sex?
4. Expected tips for extra service?
5. How consistent is the service in regard to the massage and extra?
6. Do they give you the full time, 60 or 90 min or cut it short?

Wowpow used to rave about this place. I understand it's not easy to find, that photo of a parking garage is a clue where to walk. I went looking for it once and found Rama City Court but did not see it and got side tracked by all the available boys who live in the area.

The price list is on the high side, 900 vrs. 590 for same-same at say the Body Club, 700 for the new one, Senso. If they keep there clothes on during the massage then other compare at 300 to 500 Baht. Maybe it's worth it? I don't know.

As far as I know, CandleTspa is owned by a Canadian chinese lady. Do you mean the boy in charged of the spa in the absence of the owner?

This is a classy place for massage. You get to choose the boys from an album when you go there. The boys does not massage u in the nude...although u are. You might get a happy ending but don't forget to tip if you do get it. I was there for 4 visits when I was in Bangkok 2 weeks ago and evrything seem fine to me.

Candle T Spa (http://www.aboutg.net/candle-t/contact.htm)

The website gives links to "Friends" : Timeless Tunnel Spa and Gent's Spa. They are in the same area.

I must add some correction. This post was not posted by me, but I did indeed fully sanction it and the use of my computer for this purpose. And I confess to a partial edit before being told off. The concerns expressed are real.

Im not sure who owns the spa now. But as far as I know it was started by a young Thai gay with a single venue. It was very successful. In the same building/carpark there were a few other "massage" places. I must add that Candle T was a straight massage and spa services venue with cute boys and a very proud owner. Things have changed somewhat. The boys are still cute but a bit wild and seem to have taken over along with expansion into the competitions venues. Also if you ask for a body scrub or facial you are likely to be greeted with a deep frown. All are now Candle something or other it's true.

How exactly this all took place Im not sure, because the guy running the original place was having bad vibes and trouble with the other massage places there, owned by a Singaporean Chinese. Never heard of the Canadian woman but if she's Chinese she's from the Hong Kong triad branch.
Candle T spa's web site has also been hijacked the numbers will put you through to timeless tunnel instead.
He was almost forced to close a number of times through pure intimidation and physical abuse, this he openly told me a year ago. Maybe they came up with a "win win" (sic) situation where he would use all the venues adding the "Candle" tag and pay commission on all massage or rent, something like that. But it was obviously not a smooth negotiation and continues.

I believe he is under constant threat and intimidation and physical abuse and this post was indeed intended as a cry for help, and I fully back it up. This is not the first time someone has reported finding him in a distressed state, both mentally and physically.

As far as I am concerned we should stand together as gays and not tolerate this kind of thing. Besides being horrific and distressing for this person, one of our own, just why should we be pushed and shoved and treated like second class citizens, like dirt, like nuisance vermin and not allowed to get on with making a success of life?
Obviously things in Thailand are done a little differently but I think support is the least we can offer. You will know who the guy is running what's left of CandleT he is the only one able to speak any English and has "bruises all over his jaw", just ask for a facial or leg waxing (for some of you a regular treatment Im sure) and he will be forced to come and translate. The original venue is in the middle and is still just called Candle T spa. Though it is a deep dark hollow shell these days stripped of all joy and by the look of it asset too and one very crest fallen boy in the backroom in need of our help.
Before it was pretty white orchids, soft lighting, a welcoming cool oasis. Deep chairs to rest, gentle music and soothing trickling water, smiles and fragrance, and one very happy happy boy, delighted at your arrival as a valued and treasured guest.

If someone starts a business, they are out to make money, whether gay or straight. I'm not sure just because we are gay that we have to solve their problems for them. And it sounds like a serious dispute has arisen, and how do you, or any of us, know what the truth is behind it. Seeing a cute guy with bruises and cuts doesn't prove anything.

That attitude suck. Yes because he's gay does mean we should help, no man is an island. Seeing a "cute guy with bruises and cuts" means he is in trouble, that's what it proves. You think he hit himself in the head for fun! Maybe he can't even sleep with fear.

The milk of human kindness has obviously all but drained from your atrophied cobwebbed udder.

What fun! Let's form a posse! I have the perfect pumps to match my torch and pitch fork.

I suppose having bruises and cuts on his jaw are not enough. Think he slipped on a bar of soap in the shower do you?
Please I would like anyone in Bangkok to contact and make sure he is alright. What can you loose? Maybe get a massage in the bargain.

He isn't particularly cute. That's extremely shallow fat-thing. Im almost sure he was once but that's not the point at all. He's a wonderful sweet and loving person.

[TrongpaiExpat]

Just speculation, but it seems like he was expanding the business, need some capital and borrowed from one of the local loan sharks and is late in his payments. There are so many of these massage venues now in Bangkok and revenues are down. Of course, if you get imaginative it could be anything.

And if, as Cedric says in his ""Love"" thread that he is staying at the Sukhothai hotel then Cedric can easily go to Candle T to find out the truth. And since he can afford to stay at the Sukhothai then he can afford to 'help' the cut and bruised charming boy.

Of course, if you get imaginative it could be anything.

The only credible theory to me is that Cedric has multiple personalities awakening variously in the Sukhotai, Candle and a Uni library. During an episode he awoke to find he'd beaten up the massage palour manager whom he'd mistaken as the Sukhotai butler requesting a heavy SM candle scene.

What an incredibly jaded cynical bunch of old sun blemished hags you really are under that cracked plaster you call a complexion. If I was still in Bangkok of course I would go and make sure he was still alright.

All you're interested in is getting a fucking hand job from some boy young enough to be your grandchild for the price of a packet of fags. No feeling left in the lot of you. Im disgusted. I wonder why you bother with the cost of the viagra tablets. And the types I have seen there ogling and salivating! Going for a beauty treatment? Yea like shitting hell you are, its way too late anyway even as an excuse.

Asked to help out and all you can do is whimper about the costs of my stay at the Sukhothai.

Im horrified.

What an incredibly jaded cynical bunch of old sun blemished hags you really are under that cracked plaster you call a complexion. If I was still in Bangkok of course I would go and make sure he was still alright. All you're interested in is getting a fucking hand job from some boy young enough to be your grandchild for the price of a packet of fags. No feeling left in the lot of you. Im disgusted. I wonder why you bother with the cost of the viagra tablets. And the types I have seen there ogling and salivating! Going for a beauty treatment? Yea like shitting hell you are, its way too late anyway even as an excuse. Asked to help out and all you can do is whimper about the costs of my stay at the Sukhothai. Im horrified.Who needs Aunty ("you are all perverted alcoholic garbage" - http://www.sawatdee-gay-thailand.com/fo ... g.php?w=21 (http://www.sawatdee-gay-thailand.com/forum/weblog.php?w=21) ) when we have Young Master Cedric? Mind you, the forecourt of Dick's Cafe could sometimes be described as "a packet of fags". I must say however that "a fucking hand job" is a concept that's new to me

Cedric, you need to get a life, and a dose of reality. If the guy has been beaten up, do you know how badly beaten up the other guy is. Is your poor guy completely innocent in all this? Wake up.

I can only imagine he is innocent of nothing more than trying to make something of himself. Effeminate gays (and he is) aren't much for getting into fights with gangs operating Mafia style. All he wishes to do is to hold onto what is rightfully his. He has nothing else.

Oh, Cedric. You do have an imagination!

The poor girl probably just got into a cat fight over the last pair of stiletto heels in the Big C clearance bin.

[Aunty]

Who needs Aunty "you are all perverted alcoholic garbage" -

I see. Pressed a button with you, has it Beryl? You poor old rancid cunt.

Cedric, hon, why don't you ring the guy (or email him) and find out how he's doing?

"Pressed a button with you, has it Beryl?"

Maybe he just thinks it's funny? Everything's a joke with The Colonel as far as I can tell.

[bao-bao]

You speak of the manager as though you know him and mentioned in a post a day or so ago that you were in Bangkok тАЬlast weekтАЭ so IтАЩm a little puzzled, sorry.

Since you say he's the only one there who speaks English, why not call/contact him yourself and ask him what's going on?

You allowed someone to make the original post on your computer who wrote as though they were close to "the source" - perhaps they could help you make contact.

A simple search online and through the printed maps, guides and info here at home didn't turn up any info on the place other than one phone number (02 252 0283) but maybe you'd have better luck if you tried.

[Bob]

What an incredibly jaded cynical bunch of old sun blemished hags you really are under that cracked plaster you call a complexion. If I was still in Bangkok of course I would go and make sure he was still alright.

All you're interested in is getting a fucking hand job from some boy young enough to be your grandchild for the price of a packet of fags. No feeling left in the lot of you. Im disgusted. I wonder why you bother with the cost of the viagra tablets. And the types I have seen there ogling and salivating! Going for a beauty treatment? Yea like shitting hell you are, its way too late anyway even as an excuse.

Asked to help out and all you can do is whimper about the costs of my stay at the Sukhothai.

Im horrified.

Young Master Cedric, I've stayed out of this thread due to its absolute weirdness. Let me see if I have this right. You, knowing there's somebody in some joint called the Candle-T Spa in Bangkok that was beaten up and possibly under further threat of physical assault by unknown perpetrators, are so concerned about this you supposedly let somebody else use your computer to post the first message (but you edit it first?). Then, you yourself post a clarifying message that seems to sorta explain the situation and at least impliedly asks that one, some, or all of us go to Bangkok to check up on this guy you are so terribly concerned about? Then you throw childish insults at all those (or everybody) because they didn't mount their horses and go tilting at windmills for you? That about it? If so, I think I got the "absolute weirdness" part right.

I'm currently in the US and I won't be back to LOS until October, and I'm not planning on spending any time in Bangkok. I also don't think that I can slip either my .357 S & W or my 12 ga. shotgun in my luggage. I'm also not a cop. So, sorry, I'm not available for this quest. And, given your expressed concern, why haven't you taken care of it yourself? I didn't realize I was either your minion or your daddy.

I am curious to your post about Candle T and will look into this situation. I have NOT been to Candle for a while but know it the managers, staff, as well as the proprietors.

My first question is; Who are you talking about? Pock the тАЬmanagerтАЭ at Candle T or Tein (at Gents)? They both soft spoken and very nice guys.

The reason I am confused it because you say; тАЬit was started by a young Thai gay with a single venueтАЭ and тАЬthe guy running the original placeтАЭ. Well, that would be Tien who also owns Gents. And then you on to say: тАЬother massage places there, owned by a Singaporean ChineseтАЭ would you be referring to Sanctuary Spa? ItтАЩs on the opposite side of the parking lot, months ago I heard that it was for sale and or possibility closing. But I do NOT know what itsтАЩ current status however, itтАЩs has never been related to CandleT Spa, Gents, Timeless Tunnel or CandleT Plus

But then, Pock is a very sweet young man who speaks the best English and treats customers warmly and is quite professional. But he is NOT the proprietor of CandleT.

I do live in Bangkok.... and here all the numbers

Candle T Spa 662-251-0283
Candle T Plus 662 -251-1009
Gents - 662-251-8187

I would be extremely shock if anyone involved with CandleT's or Gents beat him up and if they did, surely they would be deal with immediately. Perhaps this boy had a non-related bashing outside somewhere, just wondering?

Several of my gay thai friends here have been robbed and beaten before around Silom, not as uncomon as we would like to believe in the LOS.

Along that row of shops in тАЬRama 4 CourtтАЭ there are five massage placesтАж
1. The first one is straight with ladies working there тАУ sorry I donтАЩt remember the name (being a gay man IтАЩve never been there) 
2. Candle T Spa is a bit farther down (where Pock works as manager) and right next door, to the left is also Candle T Spa. (ItтАЩs just an extension of the first one)
3. In the middle closer in the security guards and elevator lobby is Gents
4. Down farther is Timeless Tunnel its by appointment only. Used to be owned by a lady who has now opened a new spa located in the Silom area.
5. To the left of TT is Candle T Plus.

It is true Candle T Spa, Gents, TT and CandleT Plus are all somewhat connected... but not all owned by the same, however they are inter-connected and in that you could get a massage at one and even picked the boys from another for a total of about 34 boys to choice from.
:cheers:

I am curious to your post about Candle T and will look into this situation.

Dear Fixitman. Bless you "fiximan". I can't tell you how truly very happy that makes me. That there are still people out there, real people who truly care about their fellow man. I was begining to despair that the world had become one big black hole.
I did indeed try phoning, desperately, but as I said it looks like their web-sight has been taken over by timeless something or other and they had no clue what or who I was talking about. Clearly the site is Candle T's but they claim never to have heard of them? I will only be back in Thailand in three weeks time, I just cant tell you how much this means to me, and I am sure will mean to him.

I await your report with baited breath.

Kindest regards,
Cedric

All you're interested in is getting a fucking hand job from some boy young enough to be your grandchild for the price of a packet of fags.

Cedric, you must smoke a very exotic and expensive brand of fags ... The LM Reds I smoke now cost 49 Baht a pack ... or do you get your handjobs at a car boot sale?

All you're interested in is getting a fucking hand job from some boy young enough to be your grandchild for the price of a packet of fags.

Cedric, you must smoke a very exotic and expensive brand of fags ... The LM Reds I smoke now cost 49 Baht a pack ... or do you get your handjobs at a car boot sale?

Hmm hm not me, I don't smoke at all. Well I tried it once but it ripped through my lungs like a wild-fire and I fell to the chair like I was going to pass out. I get goose bumps when ever I see someone smoke, how they can take it I just don't know. I like the smell though especially the Turkish or clove tobacco even cigar smoke and enjoy sitting next to smokers for this reason. Its delicious.