Disturbing confession of a moneyboy

Disturbing confession of a moneyboy:

I have know this handsome mb-boy almost 4 years, 2 years ago he confided in me that he became HIV positive, which was no surprise. He has maintained his health except for the usual STDтАЩs crabs, syphilis, herpes ectтАжтАж..

I recently spent a few days with him last month. I found it very disturbing what he was telling me and showing me. To my amazement the first day he wanted to be the top and not use a condom I explained the reasons why itтАЩs so important for safe sex and the need for protection. He then explained back to me that when he тАЬworksтАЭ тАЬhe rarely uses a condom and that when he doesтАж. тАЬHe pops it with his sharp nail to let it drink inтАЭ OMGтАжтАжтАжтАж He explained that certain тАЬcustomers should get the same surprise that he got! I downplayed how upset I was suggested that most of his тАЬcustomersтАЭ would most likely already have the HIV and that it didnтАЩt matterтАж so why bother trying to infect them.

I have returned back from my holiday, and of course IтАЩm scared. My question is what controls does the Thai government have to enforce the practice of safe sex among the independent sex workers. This person can see up 3-5 people in a given week, so do the mathтАжтАжтАж..

Phillip

I had a similar, scary experience, 3 years ago, when I was a "newbie" living in BKK.
though, that was not a MB, just a regular "19-year-old-next-door" who was interested to do it with a Farang. no money involved.
He was the first guy I took to my new apartment that time. He insisted to switch off the light before "playing the game", and then I was shocked to find out, after we finished, that he had let the condom disappear silently before he started action (he was the top). this means, he came inside me.....
as u can imagine, I had a unpleasant time for many weeks, until it did make sense to go to have a HIV-Test. that first test, to my relief, was negative, but then I still didnt believe the result and went to another one few months later, which was negative again. Today I know this guy DID HAVE the virus, and he did pass it to another guy I know (a Hongkong-chinese in his late twenties, who then had to leave Thailand and go back to HKG to get the proper treatment from his social-care-scheme).

its sad to say, but thats just the way the Thais are: they rarely show any kind of responsibility for their actions and wrongdoings (another example: 99% of the bus- or truck-drivers who cause an accident, flee the scene and dont care about injured or dead people).

we Farang wont be able change the attitude of the Thais, we just have to accept it like that and take our own precautions (in my case: never let someone switch off the light again).

[lonelywombat]

I knew a deaf and dumb money boy that worked from soi 4 for many years, and found out much later he had AIDS and was determined to have sex with as many farang as possible. He lived with a farang english teacher who took him to Melbourne several times where the farang tried to palm his boy off to his friends as a favour. He encouraged his friends to take his boy to the saunas, without informing them of his condition. I heard he was able to get HIV drugs for the boy even though he was determinedly spreading the disease. The new name for this practice at least here is "breeders'

Needless to say there were many angry words exchanged and he lost many friends as a result. He still lives in BKK and still is teaching. Rumors and I stress rumors are that he has another deaf and dumb money boy as a live in bf, who is also infected with AIDS and also works soi4.

I have told him he deserves to go to prison. In my city we have had 2 cases of people being put away for failing to advise their HIV status in the last 12 months.

[x in pattaya]

its sad to say, but thats just the way the Thais are: they rarely show any kind of responsibility for their actions and wrongdoings ...we Farang wont be able change the attitude of the Thais, we just have to accept it like that and take our own precautions (in my case: never let someone switch off the light again).

Yes, why can't they be more like responsible farang sex tourists traveling the globe with all their STD's, fucking the shit out of poor people (literally & figuratively) and debating on responsible forums, such as this one, how little they can pay the fuckees?


99% of the bus- or truck-drivers who cause an accident, flee the scene and dont care about injured or dead people
99% of the time people who try to use statistics to bolster their brainless arguments simply increase the stupidity factor. I think someone may have permanently switched off the lights.

its sad to say, but thats just the way the Thais are: they rarely show any kind of responsibility for their actions and wrongdoings (another example: 99% of the bus- or truck-drivers who cause an accident, flee the scene and dont care about injured or dead people).

It is very unfair to condemn an entire country just because of the stupid, selfish and dangerous actions of a few; I remember reading reports of just this happening in a number of Western countries a few years ago, so it is by no means confined to Thailand. Whilst I can understand, but by no means condone, the desire for revenge what I find most upsetting and irresponsible are those who are knowingly infected but who still do not inform their wives. I have known one such for a long time (some 20 years) and they now have two children, even though I persuaded him to tell his wife when she was pregnant with the first child - obviously to no avail.

I think 99% is a bit of an exaggeration, and in any case it may well be a case of self-preservation rather than not caring about the injured - note the recent case of the bus driver who was assaulted and severely injured by the driver of a car he had had a minor accident with, who then deliberately drove his Benz into the bus queue killing one man and severely injuring a number of others (the driver was the 20 year old son of Miss Thailand 1984 and a very wealthy businessman).

Hi,

A very disturbing and frightening thread, no matter where it occurs in the World.

It is downright evil to deliberately do this to another person, with the self forgiving principle of, "someone did it to me!'

If you are interrested a little about AIDS and HIV, you should know that eastern Asia is the part of the world where the infection grow again and again.
Pattaya is N┬░1 in the world for "prostitution", and more and more people are infected.
To act like " I do what others do to me" is very well-known in HIV fighting.
Westerners who begin to win against Aids, invent Bareback, just another way to Kill people.
Thai guy think about days, not so much about weeks and months, and not about future.
They know price are better if "No condom". and they need short or long time, and the best they earn, the best they think "good for their life".
The only way to do and to have is "never without condom" and try to speak, to teach, to say again and again and again.
Because at this time is not only just a few, but so many who are infected and most them still dont know, because accepting to make test is thinking about your way to act. It's so scaring.

its sad to say, but thats just the way the Thais are: they rarely show any kind of responsibility for their actions and wrongdoings (another example: 99% of the bus- or truck-drivers who cause an accident, flee the scene and dont care about injured or dead people).

It is very unfair to condemn an entire country just because of the stupid, selfish and dangerous actions of a few

It is very unfair indeed GF, I totally agree with you, but so much easier for the ignorant and bigoted among us to do, wouldn't you agree? http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/rolleyes.gif


George.

BB is very popular in the west now, because of the treatments, with side effects, yes crazy, but it also reminds me, to always teach safe sex wherever in the world I am. How many time have I not heard the "are you clean?", my answer is always yes I am, but the next will maybe lie to you, therefore.....oh it seems to be easier to be a top ;-)

[Uranus]

What about taking charge of your own life, act responsibly and use a condom every time rather than blaming it on Thai boys?

What about taking charge of your own life, act responsibly and use a condom every time rather than blaming it on Thai boys?
exactly.....you are in a superior financial , educational and hegemonic position,,,so be responsible.

And if beeing responsable was sure to use condom, but also to speak about that, to speak about how barebacking is just a new form of murder, to try to explain to young boys (thai or not) to use condom is not a game or just a choice, to act like if we are "more educated" we have to "shout" and not just only thinking about "our" health and our "own safety".

[Nirvana]

Toronto man gets 18years for telling his partners he was HIV +... (15 counts ..5 have contracted the virus)
small justice ..

[Nirvana]

Sorry ....NOT telling .....his partners

there is always two to a tango.

[dab69]

just as disturbing is that it is the first post of a new poster or a hydra...

anyway, yeah, I believe everything I read
on the internet. right?

Pattaya is N┬░1 in the world for "prostitution", and more and more people are infected.

And where, exactly, did this statistic come from? If personal experience, just what other locations are you comparing it to?

Do you mean "N┬░1" as in the best, the highest number in the smallest area, or exactly what?


It is very unfair indeed GF, I totally agree with you, but so much easier for the ignorant and bigoted among us to do, wouldn't you agree?

Agreed, but this seems to be becoming the acceptable norm. Sad.

And where, exactly, did this statistic come from? If personal experience, just what other locations are you comparing it to?

Do you mean "N┬░1" as in the best, the highest number in the smallest area, or exactly what?

"N┬░1 in the world for number and night venues of this kind of business" from Unicef and Unesco, you have same statistic with international organisation about work.

Cant have real or exact 100% statistic about "prostitution" many countries as China say they no have prostitution.
But I think you can convince Pattaya is one of the most known and most visit place for this activities in the world.

That mean so many sex workers (boys and girls) and then so many problem with AIDS and HIV, but also with all sexuals diseases.

And East Asia (including cambodia, vietnam,...) become the place in the world where HIV ans AIDS grown.

[Uranus]

"N┬░1 in the world for number and night venues of this kind of business" from Unicef and Unesco ...

One day Pattaya will be on the World Heritage List.

[Diec]

Even though I am 66 and have a fiance' we do not live with each other on a full time basis. However we have full trust in each other to not screw around. It is because of this trust that we are able to bareback each other and not have to worry about infecting each other. I test clean and so does he. Sometimes I suck some penis on the side (it does not detract from the love I have for my future husband) but it is always safe...which everyone here should practice as well.

[dab69]

definitely TOO much information

definitely TOO much information

dab69,

So you're not into 66 year olds sucking your whatnot??

Perish the thought eh?................................ How gross!

Sometimes I suck some penis on the side

:idea: You're into the deformed, are you?

[Smiles]

Even though I am 66 and have a fiance' we do not live with each other on a full time basis. However we have full trust in each other to not screw around. It is because of this trust that we are able to bareback each other and not have to worry about infecting each other. I test clean and so does he. Sometimes I suck some penis on the side (it does not detract from the love I have for my future husband) but it is always safe...which everyone here should practice as well.
.... and then there was Diec's description (in another thread) of the visit to the idyllic family farm/village in furthest Isaan (poverty-stricken-yet-still-happy) . All part of the same fantasy with a dash of penis hygeine and a short porn show with the fiance.

Impressive.

Cheers ...

And where, exactly, did this statistic come from? If personal experience, just what other locations are you comparing it to?

Do you mean "No 1" as in the best, the highest number in the smallest area, or exactly what?

"No 1 in the world for number and night venues of this kind of business" from Unicef and Unesco,

I have tried searching Unicef and Unesco sites and found no such reference; I did find a Unicef study naming Calcutta as being believed to have both the highest number and highest concentration of prostitutes in the world - I have no reason to doubt you, but maybe you could give a more specific reference to avoid this being condemned to the now overflowing statistic dust-bin.

One thing I did learn, having mis-typed the search, was that Venus is the patron saint of prostitutes - as well as Mary Magdalene/Mary of Egypt and St Nicholas; St Fiacre is the patron saint of VD, while Homi has Anthony of Padua as his personal patron saint!

That is just sick and outrageous; I am still trying to get rid of the anal-warts from last year that this slut named D*** K**** gave me who is a major infection case. These people should be locked away or arrested if they are trying to infect others.

That is just sick and outrageous; I am still trying to get rid of the anal-warts from last year that this slut named D*** K**** gave me who is a major infection case. These people should be locked away or arrested if they are trying to infect others.

Oh so you got anal-warts?. At least one of you did not use a condom then, logick for chickens. BTW there is an incubation time, where you dont know but can infact infect others without knowing it. Ignorant. In my youth I had is both on penis and in the ass, The ones in the ass was so painful to be removed. 20 years ago I met a 20 years lover, and I could not fuck him in his ass, because he was in treatment. What is the learning from this? Always use a condom and dont be a fool. BTW I would never wanted my parnerts to be locked away or arrested because of that, because they might did know they were infected. What kind of man are you, want to arrest someone because of your own crazy behavour.
You should blame yourself because you had unsafe sex.

[Narakmak]

Condoms do not prevent genital warts!

Condoms do not prevent genital warts!

Yes you are correct, from googling, even I learn something from time to time. ;-)
But this side from BBC recommend condoms when having sex

http://www.bbc.co.uk/relationships/sex_ ... arts.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/relationships/sex_and_sexual_health/stis_warts.shtml)