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thaiworthy-old
March 5th, 2008, 08:38
When you wish upon a star
Makes no difference who you are
When you wish upon a star
Your dreams come true

I first met Jeab on November 16, 1998. I had entered Dream Boys in Pattaya the night before with an off in tow. We had had a few drinks when I started to leave, then someone caught my eye. He was partially hidden behind a pole, but he saw me gazing at him and smiled and inched closer. I came up to him and smiled back. I had never seen anyone so beautiful. I stood there staring at him transfixed like a statue for nearly a minute. I gave him an approving nod and left, determined to return the next night, alone.

Upon entering the place the mamasan came up to me with the usual greeting. "Where you from, sir? How long you stay in Pattaya?" I wasn't listening. I was scanning the stage for the young man I saw the night before. Finally, there he was. I indicated to the mamasan that I would like for the boy to come sit with me. He came and we exchanged names. "This boy name Jeab. I am Opp. (Not her real name.) You like drink for boy?" she said.

It was to be the beginning of a long and budding relationship. Not just me and the new boy. Opp insisted that her presence with my new friend would make things go smoothly. "Boy no speak good English. I speak very good English. I talk to him for you. You tell me what you like, I say to him for you." Ok, fair enough, I thought. This was all new to me. I had no basis upon which to compare with other experiences, so the three of us seemed completely natural, at least at this point.

Jeab and I left together and he held my hand. But then something happened. No sooner had we stepped outside than something else really big was taking place. Everyone was staring upwards to the sky. Jeab pointed up into the night blackness and I could hardly believe my eyes. There were huge balls of fire streaking across the sky. I thought the world was coming to an end. They were coming fast, one after another, they were so close I could almost reach out and touch . . . but then, Jeab squeezed my hand and we took a few steps more, heads still tilted up. It was, I would later learn, the Leonid meteor shower.

It was this trip and many others that crystallized in mind as a desire to return again and again, year after year, just to see him, who was now my boyfriend. I couldn't call him a prostitute, although I did pay him, a bit more generously than the going rate, I have since been told. It wasn't so much payment as it was "taking care of him." When you come to see one person, so consistently, year after year, how can it be called prostitution? I didn't know and I didn't care. It didn't make any difference to me. He was my "falling star" boyfriend.

I came again in '99, twice that year, and twice a year for several years following. He always met me at the hotel when the taxi pulled up, when he knew I was coming. Ever diligent, ever attentive. One year he gave me a rose. Another year I surprised him at the bar. They open the door for you at Dream Boys long before you get up the steps. I think he spied me from the street and was running to me and hugged me just as I passed thru door. He would be at my side then, ignoring his friends for the new moment, as attentive as he always had been, and just as sweet.

Opp came with us on day trips for the first three years, at least 5 or 6 trips total. Her contribution to the relationship was for her companionship and translation. At 500 baht a day, I didn't mind. But after a while, it was cumbersome. She silently demanded to be everywhere with us. One day I asked Jeab, "why does she go everywhere with us?" I wanted to be alone with him. Later, he mentioned to her what I had said. Then we came to Jomtien Beach. Jeab was away from his spot in the deck chair next to me. She was crying. She looked at me with tears in her eyes and said, "I can't help it if you don't want me around." I didn't know what to say. I felt so small. I was a horrible, terrible monster.

But in the trips following, Opp wasn't there. She wasn't anywhere. Opp was dead. The details were lost in a horrible translation by a friend. I'm not really sure what had happened. But I have mourned for Opp. I have many photos of her with Jeab and she had taken many photos of us. And if I find Jeab, and even if I don't, I will honor her in some way. I don't know how just yet, but I want to do it.

It was September, 2003 now. Jeab had just sent me an email asking for a great deal of money. I had a ticket purchased for a Christmas visit. My friends, who are Thailand-intolerant, told me I should find a local bf. I resisted the idea for a long time. Then one day I placed an ad in an online site. The very next day I got a response. His name was Jose. (Not his real name). We exchanged emails for several months, then phone calls for another month, and we finally met. He lived in a college town with his brother about 100 miles away. He made the drive every weekend until it was finally decided he would move in. It was going very fast. Too fast. But I loved him. And he loved me. So, I cancelled the trip to Thailand.

He got a part time job right away to help with the bills, but it was still a financial drain. I couldn't keep sending Jeab money while an even greater outflow was required to keep the new relationship afloat. Then one day Jose quit his part-time job. I was furious. It was the only argument we ever had, but it was enough to spark the beginning of a downturn in our relationship. He was now unemployed. It took him well over a year to find another job. And it could not be a part-time job, I insisted. It had to be full-time so he could support himself, which he was well capable of doing. But by the time that happened, it was too late for us. It was the end of a 4-yr relationship. I had started to think about Jeab again. And now my emails to him were not responded.

In December 2007, Jose moved out, with a new car, a new job in Austin (not the real city) and a new boyfriend. I was happy for him. We still talk at least once or twice a day and we still love each other. He is my best friend. Sometimes we cry on the phone about our history and how much we miss each other. But he has always known about Jeab and hates him bitterly to this day. He is silent about Thailand, but I suspect Thailand just made him feel threatened, too.

I made two more trips to Thailand, but by now, Jose was already making twice-monthly trips to Austin to visit his new bf. And due to that fact, I was now able to turn my attention back to Thailand after a 4-year absence. In those trips, I played butterfly, but it was not very fulfilling. No one had come close to the memory of my falling-star boyfriend. I began posting on SGT forum a month before Jose moved out. I wanted to get my mind off this whole thing. I wanted to make new friends in Thailand. I had read the forum on PattayaGay for quite a while, then Ez-board, until finally what is has become now and finally began posting.

But this is not the end of the story. In the days following, I would think more about when I first saw the meteor shower. The great balls of fire would not mean that the world is coming to come to an end, after all. With Jeab in my life, the world could come to a whole new beginning.

I would think of Jeab and Opp on many a day. I sit alone in my den and look at the pictures on the wall of Jeab and Opp, and me and Jeab together, and there are pictures of Jose, too. I have alienated all of my Thailand-intolerant friends. There is nothing else now but four weeks a year in a place where only shooting stars could have been seen so long ago.

When you wish upon a star
Makes no difference who you are
When you wish upon a star
Your dreams do come true

No one I have ever met before and have ever known since has made me feel that happy, save for Jose. I seem now to have lost the trail to my "falling star" boyfriend. If I do not find Jeab, there is little else I can do. I have done the best I can and I have to accept that.

But unfortunately, there isn't another meteor shower scheduled until 2032.

I will be 82.

Lunchtime O'Booze
March 5th, 2008, 08:49
another tale about a silly old queen.

could have been about me really.

March 5th, 2008, 09:21
I suggest you get over it, mate. Jeab and I have been together for nearly a year now. I've asked the moderators to take down your picture of him but they don't seem to want to for reasons known only to them. Jeab knows who you are but is not interested in reconnecting. Better get on with your life.

bao-bao
March 5th, 2008, 09:42
Thaiworthy тАУ

Thanks for taking what I know can be a chunk of time to craft this story, but there are a few loose ends here that might help make your case a little more sympathetic. ItтАЩs not really clear why you felt the need to walk away from Jeab other than your anti-Thai friends (who may well have deserved no more than an invitation to go piss up a rope, to my way of thinking). ItтАЩs your emotional life, not theirs тАжunless, of course, you couldnтАЩt hush up about it and maybe drove them a bit battyтАж so there was no need to venture online looking for another that I can see.

None of my business to ask, but I'm curious...

1) What did he need to borrow the money for?
2) Did you, after this much time with him, have a "feel" for how genuine the need was?
3) Did you just stop emailing Jeab after meeting Jose? What did you tell Jeab?
4) Did you keep in any contact with Jeab during the four years?

I know this sounds somewhat cold-hearted, but I donтАЩt mean it to. ItтАЩs sad if you let the one in the hand go for the one in the bush, but all of life is choices and maybe this will be a valuable lesson for you to learn.

ThereтАЩs certainly no guarantee the relationship with Jeab would have panned out (or have been possible OR probable) but IтАЩd like to think IтАЩd have told my friends to butt out and do what my heart suggested rather than them.

If you manage to find him and he's willing to pick up where you left off, that would REALLY be a story! Hopefully his heart has healed and he's found someone to share life with. I doubt you'd like to think he's been miserable and pining the past few years. Be happy for him, and think about moving on.

Regardless, I enjoyed reading your story and I hope youтАЩll consider adding a little more to it!

March 5th, 2008, 09:44
Very nice post thaiworthy. Thanks for sharing your story. I wish the best of luck in finding Jeab again

March 5th, 2008, 09:50
None o fyou seem to get the point that Jeab might not want to be found, nor have hi s fotos and intimate details splashed around here and for sure not in Spice Magazine.. He does not. A bit of respect please.

March 5th, 2008, 10:05
So what if Jeab does not want his photo published. Maybe he should have thought about that before embarking upon a career as a prostitute catering to gays. We all have to bear the responsibilityfor decisions we took in our past.

You say emphatically "He does not". How do you know? To be that certain you must be in touch with him.

catawampuscat
March 5th, 2008, 10:27
I get the firm impression that Thaiworthy anticipates the troll response and frankly cynics abound on this
forum..
One should be cynical as the vast majority of long lasting relationships are emotional/romantic for us (farangs) and
mostly financial for the Thai boys/guys.. It is just an economic reality many of us deny but know in our heartsto be true..
But, the world is not black and white but every colour in between.

I have met and known hundreds of farangs and while we all have certain things in common, we are all very
different in attitude, personality, backgrounds and history.. It is the same for the boys, where economic need is
the big common denominator but everything else varies from guy to guy..

Thaiworthy is not a first timer and when someone sticks in your mind and heart for years, it means there is something
there that needs to be taken seriously.. Silly newbie trolls will try to irritate and belittle strong emotions as their own
lives are devoid of any meaning, any relationships, any friends and all they have is the 15 seconds of attention they
can get here.. pathetic creatures, really and silly men who should be ignored and flushed down the troll toilet..

I applaud Thaiworthy for opening up emotionally on this forum and in his PMs and wish him the best, even if it is only simply
closure in the end.. choke dee Ty... :cat:

globalwanderer
March 5th, 2008, 11:29
Thaiworthy,

I hope you succeed in your quest, if only to get closure and move on

elephantspike
March 5th, 2008, 11:56
The Baked Potato guy was the latest incarnation of Boygeenyus. He's gone now.

thaiworthy-old
March 5th, 2008, 12:08
another tale about a silly old queen.

could have been about me really.

I guess I am a silly old queen. I just never knew it before.

TrongpaiExpat
March 5th, 2008, 12:18
Thank you Thaiworthy for having the courage to post that story. I look forward to the rest of the story. Choke dee.

In another post you said your situation is such that you can't move (retire) Thailand, so what are your plans if you do find Jaeb?

If there's any leads or you need something checked out in Bangkok, don't hesitate to let me know.

March 5th, 2008, 13:27
The drunken cynic inside me wants to say:


In December 2007, Jose moved out, with a new car, a new job in Austin ....
Was the new car an Austin?


The emotional side of me wants to wish you all the very best of luck in finding him.
I'm sure that most of us have regrets of some sort about not keeping in touch with long-lost friends and wishing that we could turn back the clock.

There are some Thai boys who are more special to us than others (and our friends can't see why) and we love them and think about them when we are away; we lavish gifts on them and help them out of their problems. We know that even though they work in a bar that they are special to us and we try to convince ourselves that we are special to them.

If you are lucky and find Jaeb I hope things work out for you but if, for whatever reason, he does not want to be in contact again; remember
If you love him .. let him go.

Signed
Another (occasionally) Silly Old Queen

Lunchtime O'Booze
March 5th, 2008, 14:24
possible way thaiworthy, for beneath this rough exterior, nay tortured face. lies a romantic as I'm sure you are as well ( romantic I mean..not tortured old hag like me).

francois
March 5th, 2008, 14:41
I did enjoy reading your story thaiwothy as, in many respects, it echoes my own experiences however rarely have I seen a star in the sky in Pattaya much less a meteor shower! In fact have never seen a meteor shower of balls of fire. Not to doubt you, as I have seen the Aurora Borealis in all its glory and the Milky Way as luminous as clouds on a summer's day. But then, when I first met my bf on the eve of Y2K, I did see balls of fire only they were just fireworks over Pattaya.
And, same-same you, I have so many Thai-intolerant friends who think of I as as fool.
Good news is that there is some sort of meteor shower every year.
Francois

March 5th, 2008, 17:06
That was a great story, and I genuinly hope it has a happy ending for you.

catawampuscat
March 5th, 2008, 17:08
francois, we are all fools..

Falling for young beautiful men,when you are nearing dotage is a fool's game and I wouldn't trade it for
the practical intelligent way, where you rot in your home in some Western country, watch TV and look forward
to the next porno video starring your fantasy guy.
Sure, you save money and don't ride the roller coaster of emotion and pleasure/pain
that we experience throwing ourselves into absurd relationships and forgetting our ages/physical conditions
and remembering the pleasures and joys of male sexuality and sensuality..Actually some of us for the first time if youth was
in the closet, married with kids and living a lie..

francois, your friends think you are a foolish old man but look at their boring lives as they wait for the grim reaper and fuss over
the silly things that preoccupy us when we are shut out from being sexually active gay men..
Your friends have no doubt accepted their invisibility as sexual gay men and accepted our society's attitude that we should forget about
having sex and be contend to sit around and wait TV, go to the opera, and gossip about the neighbors. Your friends are the fools, the impotent old men who accept the eunich roles forced on them by an ageist society,
and they can save their souls from the damnation that awaits the pleasure seekers, the cocksuckers, ass-fuckers, rimmers and French kissers,
bottoms & tops, voyeurs, chuck wowwers etal..,that have rebelled against the bullshit others (including our friends & families) try to impose upon us..
francois you are the sane one and on the right path..Let them die, alone in homes with all their pension money intact and all their possessions and all their regret for not living life every day to the fullest and having the times of their lives.. At least their nieces and nephews will have their money and not some
guys that make our lives so special and so exciting.. in my humble opinion of of course... :cat: