Selling Sex - is Thailand expensive?

Interesting article based on papers presented at the American Economic association meeting appears in this weeks Economist.
Compared with the US , paid sex in Thailand appears expensive!
http://www.economist.com/finance/displa ... d=10533877 (http://www.economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10533877)

The article indicates prostitutes charge $25-30 per hour in Chicago. Here are my thoughts:
1. The price quotes do not including motel fees.
For the tourists in Thailand, they stay in hotels already, so hotel fees is not extra.
2. The $25-30 is in Chicago, I am sure many other major cities cost more, for example, New York, Los Angeles...etc.
3. The article was not clear, but I suppose $25-30 is for female prostitutes. Male prostitutes charge are like to charge more.

A easy way to find out how much gay prostitutes charge in the U.S. is simply checking out the escort service ads on the gay news papers. I've never seen any of them charge only $25-30.

[Marsilius]

Two more points:

1. although the cost of male prostitutes in the US appears to be higher than that for women, in Thailand - as discussed previously on this forum - the fee expected by a boy offed from a bar is almost always less than than expected by a girl.

2. customers in Chicago are more likely to be paying for sex from their normal and restricted weekly income. Farang tourists in Thailand, on the other hand, may well have been saving up for many months for their vacation and so will have more disposable income in the "vacation fund" to shell out on one-off pleasurable activities in which they may not indulge at all back home.

[Alton-old]

So many US prostitutes are drug addicts that it keeps the price down. Here in Baltimore, there was such an upsurge of addiction 10-12 years ago that the price of a Monica Lewinsky got down to $5. (It has since risen) Please note that none of these women would be confused with Elly Mae Clampett or Lt. Uhura in their primes.....

... the price of a Monica Lewinsky got down to $5.According to that piece of Congressional pornography, the Starr Report, Monica performed eleven acts (or was it 10?) of oral-genital sex and one of oral-anal sex. Bill Clitoris masturbated her with a cigar and then smoked it. Which of those is "a Monica Lewinsky"?

[Marsilius]

Who rimmed whom? This is fascinating...

Who rimmed whom? This is fascinating...I think she rimmed him. To return to the topic, when I first came to Thailand 20 years ago, boys expected 500 baht. Now they expect 1500 baht. However the USD/THB exchange rate has also moved, so that 500 then in USD is probably 750 now had the exchange rate remained the same (which it hasn't - just ask WhiteDesire)

[netrix]

gay escorts in the usa charge $100 - $300 per hour.
(or so i hear) :shy: they charge $1,000 to $1,200
or more for an overnight. (or so i hear) :shy: plus
wining and dining, shopping, sometimes airfare, etc.

The american gay escorts don't usually have dying
buffalos or grandmothers, but they often need new
leather jackets or Dior sunglasses, car payments
and rent payments.

so anyway...i vote for thailand.

In the interests of research i had a quick look at Gaydar's escort section, where some of the guys quote their rates. Converting everthing to US$ gives the following:

Australia 160
Paris 220
Hong Kong 130
Amsterdam 180
Zurich 275
London 200


If you are one of the guys that gets it for 500Bht, then it is an order of magnitude cheaper for you here. Pay the boy 1000 and 500bht for off fee and drinks - it is still under 50US, even at todays exchange rate.

The article indicates prostitutes charge $25-30 per hour in Chicago. ... the article indicates that street prostitutes (ie. about as low as you can go in the sex-for-sale hierarchy) charge $25-$30 an hour. Without making that important distinction, everyone has gone haring down various by-ways on what used to be the Forum's most perennial topic - "How much do you tip a boy?". Most posters I'd suggest don't take boys off the street - but in my experience they are definitely cheaper than boys in the brothels (ie. the go-go bars). It's not uncommon - don't all rush to your keyboards now - to be asked for 500 baht by boys met on the Internet rather than two or three times that in a bar (or also on the Internet). Oh, and since we're talking about the Internet - what's happened to Ratefun?

[quote=" "How much do you tip a boy?". Most posters I'd suggest don't take boys off the street - but in my experience they are definitely cheaper than boys in the brothels (ie. the go-go bars). It's not uncommon - don't all rush to your keyboards now - to be asked for 500 baht by boys met on the Internet rather than two or three times that in a bar (or also on the Internet). Oh, and since we're talking about the Internet - what's happened to Ratefun?

I didn't rush to my keyboard, I shuffled myself over to it. Homey, would you chance getting your throat cut to save some baht? Street workers and internet workers are definitely not recommended. Wise up. A bar boy could wield a wicked knife also, but not likely as he has a tie to some bar. Internet whores- straight out of the computer, into your room, and gone completely anonymous. Danger, danger. As Steve Irwin said so many times.
Now for god's sake, someone wheel me into a bar. Quickly.

gwm4asian,

I know little enough about the current bar/rent scene here, and nothing about any elsewhere, but surely you should compare "like-for-like" - ie the advertised rate for Thai escorts in Gaydar, rather than the advertised rate elsewhere and the "street" rate here?

Homi,

I am in full agreement with both you and boogyman. Far from 500 baht, though, the cheapest paid sex I have been offered here (excluding those occasions when it has been free gratis) was 10 baht!!

[lonelywombat]

I am in full agreement with both you and boogyman. Far from 500 baht, though, the cheapest paid sex I have been offered here was 10 baht!!

Oh shit you promised you would not tell. You are so mean!!!!!

[Sen Yai]

I am in full agreement with both you and boogyman. Far from 500 baht, though, the cheapest paid sex I have been offered here (excluding those occasions when it has been free gratis) was 10 baht!!

Yeah, and I've been offered the same price from tuk-tuk drivers "Go anywhere. Only 10 baht. Very cheap!" But I'm wise enough to know that once the services have been rendered, a higher price will be expected.

[latintopxxx]

cheap whores....try Brazil...so much competition that they gazump one another....have paid as little as USD10 for a gorgeous muscle boy in his early twenties. apart from the Thais reckon the Brazilians, especially the darker ones are really enthusiastic when it comes to sex.

... apart from the Thais reckon the Brazilians, especially the darker ones are really enthusiastic when it comes to sex.Is that why there's so much gay Brazilian porn?

[Marsilius]

Yes - and also because (a) the actors are so inexpensive to hire, (b) many people consider the Brazilians to be among the most handsome people in the world.

Brazilian boys are stunning and extremely accomplished. However, prices as I remember from a couple years ago was about US $30 in the so called "saunas". Then there is the "sauna fee" with room, etc. When all said and done about US $50. Agree it can be cheaper but that was the full price without any hassle like the 1,500 baht in LOS.

Problem I could never solve was restrictions by Hotels against bringing boy back to room. Had to use the rooms in the "saunas". Saunas (with bars etc) have same appearance as gay Bath House but strictly whore houses with many many awesome boys at the rush hours. All free lancers walking around with only the towel around them and all available for inspection at the bar or lounge. Strictly money boys where I went.

Attitutes of the boys and their commitment to making it really good for the client was exceptional. Many four and five star boys.
The Latino boy from Brazil can break your heart and also have the six pack abs and beautiful body without being overly muscle boy. I may have been just lucky, but I found the Latino boys are really good at making love. They can almost get me off with just their kissing techniques.

I never found a Forum for Brazil like this so I only know what I could find on my own.

And back to the topic of price......... street boys in Brazil would be very cheap but where do you take them and what is your life worth. I would not trust them like we naturally can with Thai boys. The culture and amazing bar shows in Thailand make it the best in the world.

So, more to the point, what's an airfare BKK to Brazil return worth and where's the best place to go? :drunken:

So, more to the point, what's an airfare BKK to Brazil return worth and where's the best place to go? :drunken:

It would appear surprisingly, that Thai Airways do not fly to Brazil. However, there is a BA/Quantas combined flight to Rio de Janeiro, that goes from Bangkok via Heathrow, for THB92,520.00 As far as the best place to go is concerned, I would personally suggest San Paulo. Shall I book, or wait until your arrival. http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/Wink.gif


George.

[latintopxxx]

RIO: best is anywhere along the Ipanema beachfront; very obvious cruising takes place during the day, guys in tight speedos leaving very little to the immagination think nothing of walking along the beachfront sidewalk proudly sporting a huge erection.
Best place to pick up freelancers is at the various corner bars where the young blue collar Rio locals congregate to watch football and drink cheap beet in 1liter bottles; will think nothing of selling their butts for the equivalent of a days wages.

Sao Paulo: most definitely the "sauna labarinthio" and the road it is situated on leading up the the shopping center; despite other comments I jave not encountered rent boys in the sauna, it is a 24hr operation with a bar situated facing a glass fronted shower area, very erotic, easy to find willing sex partners. Lots of cruising/pick ups take place in the immediate neighberhood and shopping center situated 300meters up the road, real easy to pick up willing/able boys, some rent...most jusy happy to fuck for the joy of it...and most versatile...although nothing beats fucking a young guy with a huge dick.

Visit Brazil every 2 years and absolutely love it, and unless you act like the stereotype American tourist (loud Hawaii shirt, jelwellry and expensive camera around your neck) the locals are pretty harmless.

It would appear surprisingly, that Thai Airways do not fly to Brazil. However, there is a BA/Quantas combined flight to Rio de Janeiro, that goes from Bangkok via Heathrow, for THB92,520.00 As far as the best place to go is concerned, I would personally suggest San Paulo. Shall I book, or wait until your arrival. http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/Wink.gif


George.[/quote]



I recently checked this a few weeks ago and if memory serves me right Emirates return Bangkok - Sao Paulo (via Dubai) is around half that price - 50000 Baht including taxes

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

a man after my own heart. I agree -it's that Latin blood ( do you have some?)

I've never met such randier people..of course Peurto Rico was the place for horny Latins. I once found myself at a fab orgy in San Juan with an American Bishop and Manhattan mafia boss who hired a dozen boys to perform..and my God they needed little encouragement.

Haven't checked out Rio yet but I have no doubt it's another paradise..terribly dangerous now people tell but I find that a turn on.

Really-if I have to go I don't really mind if it's in the arms of muscled brown Brazilian and he does the business before strangling me..as long as I don't go off the balcony on a "suicide" mission..so passe !

I agree -it's that Latin blood ( do you have some?)Bloody vampire

latintopxxx.................As for your comments on rent boys in saunas......... in Rio I specifically looked for the saunas that listed rent boys (think they called them escorts) on their websites or on the Gay Brazil listing for nightlife and baths. In the Cocacabanna area there were only three or four that listed Escorts out of the dozen or more gay saunas listed.

I agree with your comments 100% about beach boys showing it all. I was intimidated by the size of meat showing thru the speedo's. The Latin Lover dreamy eyes and every Latin boy I was with had a kissing/oral technique that was hot.

BUT, how do you get around the Hotel policy of no visitors to the room? They were militant about it at my hotel so I decided next trip I am finding a Condo. Any suggestions?

Also, can't remember the name of the big hot disco bar: but any gay man in Rio must visit that at least once in your life. It was far better than anything in New York or California during the 70's. I didn't use it, but I think it also had an attached sauna. Disco got going about midnight and had about a thousand hot men dancing all night. Many with no shirts. When I left the disco, a young latin lover star with shirt totally unbottoned and a sexy chest showing begged me to take him. He was a super model that could have stepped into any Hollywood movie as a young stud. I was totally spent from an evening at the sauna then the disco all night. As my taxi left I realized I was walking away from the hottest looking young man I had ever seen and he had invited me to take him. I was insane and regretted that loss for the next 364 days.

Brazillian VISA must be obtained well in advance. It takes a long time and is expensive but well worth it. They are usually good for Five Years.

[latintopxxx]

Homintern; you got a wicked sense of humour!!!

lunchtime O'Booze; like the attitude, kinda like the white South African lady who said "I'd rather be killed in my bed than have to get up and make it" and yes do have some ltin blood...Portuguese to be exact.

Think we kinda meandered off the subject here, sounds like a gay Brazil promotion! And splash4, like Thailand I actually had no problem hosting boys in my room, they simply had to register at the reception, this was more for my protection, didn't do clubs much but do remember one between Ipanema and Copacabana 9think (the suburb was Apoador), fantastic go go boys dancing on stage and on the bar itself, they would start fully clothed and as the night progressed end up naked; some wielding dildos...leave the rest to your imagination.
Meanwhile the "trade" lined up against the walls and did their best to display their wares....good times. And if you were really horny an intimate session in the toilets was not out of the question either....inhibitions tend to wane after a few drinks...