Look Bar in Sunny gets hit by Police last night.

At midnight last night, Look bar in Sunny was raided by police.

This is a well known underage bar. Was watching from outside, so i dont know what was going on inside. But they managed to fill a minibus with a lot of underage boys.

On speaking to a member of the door, he informed me that the bar now has big problems?

Were other places in the area raided?

I'm not surprised it hasn't been raided sooner. I think the guy who owns that, also owns 2 more bars in Sunee.
Hope no farangs were arrested, and thank you for letting us know.

Was it associated with this ?

GANG OF TEENAGERS VICIOUSLY ATTACKS MAN IN SOI SUNEE GAY AREA

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownew ... 0000004807 (http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000004807)

I dont know if the above story is related or not. What i can tell you is that all the boys in the picture who were arrested work at Villa Rouge(OLd Kaos Bar). So that bar may not have many boys tonight?

[fedssocr]

After reading that story I would guess that it has something to do with the stabbing.

I thought they paid off the right people to know when regular raids are coming and this sounds like part of the stabbing investigation.

That said, there is nothing very discreet about Look Bar, so it would not be surprising to have it raided looking for the underage boys. Are there programs in place to help the boys who get arrested for working underage in a gogo bar? Or are they just turned out onto the streets?

Are there programs in place to help the boys who get arrested for working underage in a gogo bar? Or are they just turned out onto the streets?How often do you go to Thailand? They're just turned out onto the streets. There are no social services to speak of in Thailand. It's the Fox News dream - rugged individualism and the devil take the hindmost

The boys caught up in the raid are usually just fined and let out onto the streets again. Once in awhile they send them off to different agencies but sooner or later they are back out on the street.

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

the lads are just parked at the police station for some brief questioning..given a drink of water and photoed for the media with one farang looking forlorn and with his cap shoved low..and then

back to the streets for the lads..funny business..where are they meant to go ? no social services..no-where to live..no-one to look after them so you only get one guess= as to where they will go !!

(and it wont be into the wealthy arms of the do-gooder NGO lot..they and visiting cops specialise in keeping the whole merry go round permanently running so they can indulge themselves in luxury Asia living.

Bravo Lunchtime!

[fedssocr]

How often do you go to Thailand? They're just turned out onto the streets. There are no social services to speak of in Thailand. It's the Fox News dream - rugged individualism and the devil take the hindmost

Right. That was basically the point I was trying to raise. What sense does it make to arrest the boys who are just trying to survive as best they can? Unless the gov't intends to help them some way, what's the point?

[bucknaway]

Are you guys crying for the guys who almost killed the guy or are you guys upset that the law wants to stop underage commercial sex with adults?

[dab69]

yes they should be brainwashed oops get help like they would be in the us

Whether underage or not they get no help. I once new of a case (in Pattaya) where a guy got busted for underage boys. I think he probably paid the cops off and left the country.
And the boys? Well about two weeks later I saw two of those boys sniffing glue on the street. I did wonder then what benefit there was in busting the guy if the boys are actually no better off and were probably better off with the guy.

Oh yes, in 'civilised' countries the boys would be counselled and assisted and made to feel like victims irrespective of what actually happened.

When people come to a country like Thailand and have no real idea of how it all works and want to 'make it all better' for everyone they usually cause far more damage than what was going on in the first place.

I wondered at the time whether the feminazi'z thought it was better for them to be sniffing glue than having their dicks sucked. Obviously they do.

But if all this is about someone being stabbed, then it's for sure that the Police should be involved.

[bucknaway]

This is true for all underage boys working in the sex industry? They have no family? No place to go? Where do they go when they can't get any off's?





Whether underage or not they get no help. I once new of a case (in Pattaya) where a guy got busted for underage boys. I think he probably paid the cops off and left the country.
And the boys? Well about two weeks later I saw two of those boys sniffing glue on the street. I did wonder then what benefit there was in busting the guy if the boys are actually no better off and were probably better off with the guy.

Oh yes, in 'civilised' countries the boys would be counselled and assisted and made to feel like victims irrespective of what actually happened.

When people come to a country like Thailand and have no real idea of how it all works and want to 'make it all better' for everyone they usually cause far more damage than what was going on in the first place.

I wondered at the time whether the feminazi'z thought it was better for them to be sniffing glue than having their dicks sucked. Obviously they do.

But if all this is about someone being stabbed, then it's for sure that the Police should be involved.

[thaiguest]

I dont know if the above story is related or not. What i can tell you is that all the boys in the picture who were arrested work at Villa Rouge(OLd Kaos Bar). So that bar may not have many boys tonight?

There's a fairly rigid line between the boys who work at Sundance and Villa Rouge though both places have common ownership.
The media report specifies that the culprits worked in Sundance NOT Villa Rouge alias Kaos.
I'm relieved.
I know most of the boys in Villa Rouge/Kaos and I can honestly say they're good boys. I don't recognise any Villa Rouge/Kaos boys in the media photos.

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

in his usual tongue in cheek manner..as opposed to his legendary real tongue in cheek escapades.

[Dodger]

I'm surprised there were that many under aged boys still in the bar at midnight to begin with - as they're usually offed already by that time at night. It must really be slow business on the sois. They'll be set free and be back on the working scene within 24 hours...TIT

I agree with the other posters about the fact that there are no social support systems in place to address this issue, similar to the way there are no support system in place for yaba addicts, which ironically, ranks as the # 1 problem in the Kingdom effecting the society.

IMO, Thailand is totally reactive to these types of things and lacks in any real proactive measures (or programs) to prevent their recurrence. It's the same way they survive up on the farms. They eat whatever looks the greenest in the garden - with a slice off the ass of the slowest running chicken that morning. That's just the way it is.

[Geezer]

тАЬThey eat whatever looks the greenest in the garden - with a slice off the ass of the slowest running chicken that morning. That's just the way it is.тАЭ

ThatтАЩs almost exactly the diet the doctor mandated for me.


I walked past Look Boys last evening, and again this evening about 8:15. The sign was turned off, the door standing open, the stage lights off but general lighting on, and about twenty-five boys in street clothes were standing around seductively. I got the impression trysts were available.

This is true for all underage boys working in the sex industry? They have no family? No place to go? Where do they go when they can't get any off's?How naive are you, Bucky? Many of these boys will have been put into the sex industry by their family. I know of one under-age boy who is there because his mother (very early thirties herself so still working the "straight" scene) told him to go and work there. That won't be unusual. Thailand exemplifies the Republican idyll that you and your Fox News mates want for America - rugged capitalism - exploit your assets, even if it is your ass, because no-one else will be looking out for No.1, especially not the government (there's nothing in it for them)

[bucknaway]

Well that must make it true for all the kids......





This is true for all underage boys working in the sex industry? They have no family? No place to go? Where do they go when they can't get any off's?How naive are you, Bucky? Many of these boys will have been put into the sex industry by their family. I know of one under-age boy who is there because his mother (very early thirties herself so still working the "straight" scene) told him to go and work there. That won't be unusual. Thailand exemplifies the Republican idyll that you and your Fox News mates want for America - rugged capitalism - exploit your assets, even if it is your ass, because no-one else will be looking out for No.1, especially not the government (there's nothing in it for them)

[thaiworthy-old]

Well that must make it true for all the kids......



This is true for all underage boys working in the sex industry? They have no family? No place to go? Where do they go when they can't get any off's?How naive are you, Bucky? Many of these boys will have been put into the sex industry by their family. I know of one under-age boy who is there because his mother (very early thirties herself so still working the "straight" scene) told him to go and work there. That won't be unusual. Thailand exemplifies the Republican idyll that you and your Fox News mates want for America - rugged capitalism - exploit your assets, even if it is your ass, because no-one else will be looking out for No.1, especially not the government (there's nothing in it for them)

Well, I can see there are some flaws in the use of the "Ignore" button. If someone quotes a poster, the whole thing is there for me to read anyway. However, in this case, Homintern's remarks imply a certain amount of logic, which I can appreciate, and agree with-- up to a point. At least I can be grateful this time that the quote did not reveal something unpleasant (for me) this time. In this case, the family unit in Thailand is one which certainly can cultivate what he states. I'm not sure if it's capitalism that motivates them-- seems more like survival to me. With respect to the woman and her son, it appears to be a "family business," and whether there are "many" of these is a guess. How many is "many?" A majority? I hope not. I would not want to off a boy in this circumstance, but I would probably never know it anyway. Bucky is expressing compassion, not naivete, and FWIW, he is hopefully not also a Fox News fan.

Bucky is ... is hopefully not also a Fox News fan.You've obviously missing out on the Board gossip - Bucky is a born-again Republican and open admirer of Bill O'Reilly

Well, I can see there are some flaws in the use of the "Ignore" button.

I too!

For once I agree with what Homintern says in the quote.

Thaiworthy is 100% correct. The boy who happily spends his weekends sharing a bed with a farang, last seen going into a popular bar and a well known Cafe in Boyztown together, well after midnight at Christmas, would probably find his mother to be far less co-operative if his financial support was not helping her "survival". I, too, hope that this is as rare as it deserves to be.

I, too, hope that this is as rare as it deserves to be.Buddhism's Second Noble Truth: "The cause of suffering is to be in denial"

[bucknaway]

You always try to discuss me..... This thread is not about me......




Bucky is ... is hopefully not also a Fox News fan.You've obviously missing out on the Board gossip - Bucky is a born-again Republican and open admirer of Bill O'Reilly

You always try to discuss me..... This thread is not about me......But it incorporates your attitudes. "Don't they have a home to go to?" is a political comment about how you think a society should be organised

[bucknaway]

Well... since you think you know me sooo well... No need for me to reply to you while you listen to the Bucknaway voices in your head.

Anyway... You keep looking for your fight but you will have to find a different board member because I am not interested.

Take care.




You always try to discuss me..... This thread is not about me......But it incorporates your attitudes. "Don't they have a home to go to?" is a political comment about how you think a society should be organised

[bucknaway]

This just came to me... We are told not to buy things from the flower kids or the others selling pencils because they are being exploited and if we don't buy from them than their exploitation my stop.

But if a boy or girl is peddling sex than that is a different story?

I know that the child sex industry won't end anytime soon. We have a child sex industry here in the USA and they have homes and support networks.

Anyway... You keep looking for your fight but you will have to find a different board member because I am not interested. As I kept telling Hedda, I'm only here for the laughs. Dissin' you is (mildly) amusing

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

do you have Hedda voices in your head as well ?:shaking2::shaking2::shaking2:

do you have Hedda voices in your head as well ?Are you able to help? Should I cut back on the gin?

At midnight last night, Look bar in Sunny was raided by police. This is a well known underage bar. Was watching from outside, so i dont know what was going on inside. But they managed to fill a minibus with a lot of underage boys.

On speaking to a member of the door, he informed me that the bar now has big problems?

I have avoided this thread like the plague for reasons I do not wish to go into. However, after the posts that have been made in it, which have been based on nothing more than rumours, along with theories that the 'visit' Look Bar recieved on Friday evening, may have been connected to an unsavoury incident involving a street fight that took place earlier in the week and last but not least; the fact that the thread is now being totally derailed and going way off topic, I have made the decision to post in the belief, that there are members here that would be interested in hearing what the real truth was and is, behind the bars closure.

I don't particularly enjoy having to call anyone a liar and will stop short of that here. Instead I will ask Sin City Queen, if his account of what transpired the other night outside Lookbar, could possibly have been made as a result of perhaps him having been slightly inebriated, or because of failing eyesight.

I say this, as I have it on good authority, as well as knowing it personally to be a fact, that as opposed to what he said which was: "they managed to fill a minibus with a lot of underage boys", the truth of the matter is; that not one single boy was taken away from the bar either in a minibus, or any other mode of transport.

Out of interest and with regard to your statement here: "This is a well known underage bar." Although I am not insinuating your claim to be false, as I did your previous one, I am just wondering whether the statement you have made above, is knowledge based on your own first hand experience, or gained by here-say.

I can categorically say, that the incident at Look Bar was in no way whatsoever connected to the fight that took place a couple of nights earlier, nor was the fact of it being closed anything to do with boys, underage or otherwise. The closure of the bar was as a result of a licensing irregularity, as was the closure a short time earlier that night, of another Go Go bar in Day Night.

Nothing should be read into the fact that Look Bar still remains closed as of this evening, it is solely because the owner is unable to do anything about the situation until Monday, this being because the incident took place during the weekend and, when the licensing authorities as always, are closed.

I can also state that there is also no truth in the rumours currently being circulated, that the bar has been closed for a period of between 60 and 90 days, the time depending on whom you heard the rumour from.

I am sure that the following information of mine will be received with mixed feelings, I say this in the sense that there will some who I am sure will be very happy with the news, whilst some no doubt, gauging from some of the posts here, that will be very disappointed to hear it. This information being, that you can expect Look Bar to reopen in the very near future and even as early as the coming week.


Chok Dee,




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[Dodger]

George...

Thanks for the facts.

That also clears up a question I had regarding the bar having enough under aged boys to fill a mini van at midnight to begin with. I have first-hand knowledge, that any bar in Thailand that has UA boys gracing their stages, don't have them hanging around for very long. They're usually the first ones offed - and offed - and offed again.

TIT

George...

Thanks for the facts.

That also clears up a question I had regarding the bar having enough under aged boys to fill a mini van at midnight to begin with. I have first-hand knowledge, that any bar in Thailand that has UA boys gracing their stages, don't have them hanging around for very long. They're usually the first ones offed - and offed - and offed again.

TIT

Well you may well very say that Dodger, but as to whether I personally believe what you have said to be true and really does happen, I am afraid that I couldn't possibly comment. http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/whistle.gif


Chok Dee Dodger,


George.

Well you may well very say that Dodger, but as to whether I personally believe what you have said to be true and really does happen, I am afraid that I couldn't possibly comment.But George, you're a pimp yourself, surely you know about these things?

[dab69]

thanks for setting the record straight.

don't let losers with nothing better to do than run up
their post count on internet forums get to you.

keep us informed of further developments if possible.
cute avatar.

which bar is yours? - you have one I am guessing

which bar is yours? - you have one I am guessingIt's called Lost Boys, and here's a report on it - http://www.sawatdee-gay-thailand.com/fo ... .php?e=372 (http://www.sawatdee-gay-thailand.com/forum/weblog_entry.php?e=372)

Coming to this thread rather late, so I was amused by all the disinformation. 'A minibus of underage carried away to Soi gau!!!!....well really.
The truth of the matter is that it was all about licensing problems, possibly about cameras that needed to be installed. Of interest to some might be the fact that all the boys who would work in Look bar were working in Villa Rouge the following night.
Last night saw another police prescence in the Plaza at the very early hour of 7-00pm. About 6 police ambled around, wandered into Villa Rouge and the other gogo bar opposite, generally put the frighteners on many boys who would normally wander about the sois, and then disappeared.

For those here that may be interested, Look Bar will be re-opening tonight.


George.

I know most of the boys in Villa Rouge/Kaos and I can honestly say they're good boys. I don't recognise any Villa Rouge/Kaos boys in the media photos.

Unfortunately I can't say that of one of the waiters. First he pleaded with me to take him to a disco, for which I firstly had to pay the bar's off fee, and then said that I did not have to pay him any "tip"; he just wanted to get out of the bar and go dancing, not to be offed. But at the end of the night he demanded that I pay him several hundred bahts and claimed there was no such thing as not being paid any "tip". He insisted I couldn't leave until I had paid him; I of course had to. The next day I related the incident to a couple of the other guys working in the bar and they told me that he does that all the time to customers.

... he just wanted to get out of the bar and go dancing, not to be offed. But at the end of the night he demanded that I pay him several hundred bahts and claimed there was no such thing as not being paid any "tip". He insisted I couldn't leave until I had paid him; I of course had to.

There are a few loose ends here, which maybe you would clear up:

"at the end of the night ... " - was this "after disco" or "after sex"?

"He insisted I couldn't leave ..." - leave the disco, or a hotel room / condo, etc?

"not to be offed"

all at the disco, na.

"not to be offed"

all at the disco, na.

Then you were conned, plain and simple. At the first mention of a "tip" you should have excused yourself to the toilet and left, if possible leaving him with the bill! At the least you should tell the mama-san or the manager - they would be unlikely to support him, particularly if other bar staff already know about it. It all depends what you think an easy life is worth.