Yank navy comes to town in May, I am told

[andrewcraig]

On talkback radio this morning, a caller mentioned she had been to Pattaya at the same time as the US Navy,
and there were sailors everywhere. Over 7,000. Can it be true?
Why has no one told me about this, do they go to Boyztown the discos or the beach.
Where do you find the dates of the next trip.
PPPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE. I am horny already

They aren't allowed to go to Boyztown. They have MP spies. They could be kicked out of the navy for being gay and lose their pensions. Land of the free ...
However, if they like the pussy, no worries mate.

[andrewcraig]

They aren't allowed to go to Boyztown. They have MP spies. They could be kicked out of the navy for being gay and lose their pensions. Land of the free ...
However, if they like the pussy, no worries mate.

After seeing all those marines in gay porno movies, they would have no one left if they purged gays.
Whatever happened dont ask dont tell?

"Yank navy comes to town in May, I am told"

Gawd, that's the back end of April (Songkran) and now May as well in which to stay clear of Pattaya next year.

7000 drunken, boorish Yank sailors !!! - regardless of whether they are in the gay areas or not - can you just imagine how prices in shops, bars and restaurants throughout Sin City are going to sky-rocket whilst they are in town.

[Geezer]

тАЬтАжjust imagine how prices in shops, bars and restaurants throughout Sin City are going to sky-rocket whilst they are in town.тАЭ

Well, youтАЩll have to imagine it, because I haven't seen it to happen.

I wish you had told the Navy how you feel nine, and again six decades ago. They could have stayed home instead of dying to save your sorry butt.

[Alton-old]

Fear not, gentleman!! First, 1/3 of the sailors must stay on the ship at any one time. Second, only a handful will be in uniform, so the gays can have discreet fun. (Some of the gays will go to Bangkok and really let their hair down.) Third, some will not be into "rice", so they won't compete with you fellas. If you are American, buy them a beer, because they are either going to or returning from a long boring stay at sea in the Persian Gulf Area.

I speak from experience!! ;-)

I wish you had told the Navy how you feel nine, and again six decades ago. They could have stayed home instead of dying to save your sorry butt.
Trouble was, not enough of them died - the chicken-livered Americans entered the two World wars far too late !

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

ohhh...that's right you do !!!

look down side alleys..you will find the odd young sailor lurking in civvies..you get a sixth sense about them.

[Wesley]

I wish you had told the Navy how you feel nine, and again six decades ago. They could have stayed home instead of dying to save your sorry butt.
Trouble was, not enough of them died - the chicken-livered Americans entered the two World wars far too late !

The Chickens were there in time to save your sorry ass, if it had not been for them you would be typing in German now, think about it. better late than never. So, now we take the opposite view and get our nose in way too soon. Either way some one will complain we are either too late or to involved. Which way do you want it?

Wes

[Brad the Impala]

After seeing all those marines in gay porno movies, they would have no one left if they purged gays.
Whatever happened dont ask dont tell?

Don't how to break this to you gently, but all those porn stars in uniform are not necessarily actual marines!

Since don't ask don't tell implemented: ten thousand discharges as of 2003 and more since then, and I am not talking happy endings.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 39QR51.DTL (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/11/30/EDGTH39QR51.DTL)

[bing]

Last April or Early May the fleet was in town, I was watching a Thai Boxing at the ring on Beach Soi, just up from Boys Town. They had youngsters boxing, some of the little ones were 9 or 10, a young American wandered up beside me and mentioned he thought the kids were too young to be fighting. We chatted a bit and I told him to watch how much the kids collected after the match whether they win or loose, just about everyone gives them 20 baht, some give even more. He had never seen Thai Boxing before. He was just off a tour of 6 months at sea. I would have thought him a college student if he had not mentioned being in the navy. Many months have passed and I'm still happy to have met this unassuming representative of the armed forces. Snowkat, I respect you ability to vent your spleen on these fine young men, who serve their country with pride. How puerile to have fantasies about being more secure sans their service.

7000 drunken, boorish Yank sailors !!! - regardless of whether they are in the gay areas or not - can you just imagine how prices in shops, bars and restaurants throughout Sin City are going to sky-rocket whilst they are in town.


Sorry, not the reality. I have always been in town when the fleet arrives (at least the last 10 years).

Both the sailors and marines are very well behaved and polite beyond belief. They are noticeable, because some are damn good looking. They tend to flock to Walking Street and can be found mostly in the girly bars.

And the prices don't "sky-rocket".

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

"Don't how to break this to you gently, but all those porn stars in uniform are not necessarily actual marines!"...

and not all men in uniforms perform like porno stars !! ( nothing personal Colonel !)

[TrongpaiExpat]

can you just imagine how prices in shops, bars and restaurants throughout Sin City are going to sky-rocket whilst they are in town.


And the prices don't "sky-rocket".

Some people just feel the need to speculate on situations without first or even second hand information. Is is so hard to just keep your mouth shut if you don't know what your talking about?

Snowkat, I respect you ability to vent your spleen on these fine young men, who serve their country with pride. How puerile to have fantasies about being more secure sans their service.

My father served with a US marine unit in WW2 in France as a liaison officer and he related to us all as kids just how brainless and inefficient and in some cases downright cowardly they actually were.

You fall into the trap that catches most Americans that the puerile, flag-waving patriotic nonsense that emanates from Holywood is historical fact instead of being mostly fiction and, in war films made around the time, blatant propaganda encouraged by the US Government to raise the spirits of the 'folks back home'. The same thing happened during the Vietnam war.

There is no doubt that the Americans helped to shorten the war in Europe but it would have ended much sooner, by sheer weight of numbers and equipment, if they had been there earlier. Incidentally it was the Russians who had more influence in Hitler's downfall than anything the Allies did.

[TrongpaiExpat]

Snowcat, are you the same poster known as Snowy on BahtStop?

Snowcat, are you the same poster known as Snowy on BahtStop?
NO.

[Geezer]

Snowcat, IтАЩm sure you are quite right concerning the US Marines in France being cowardly in the extreme.

The US Navy website http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq11-1.htm indicates that while three Marines were killed in the N. African landings and one in the Sicilian, not a single Marine was killed, wounded or captured in the landings in southern France or in the Invasion of France. Those spineless leathernecks must have done some spirited running to achieve such a shameful record.

Likely some rascally Yankee apologist will offer an excuse such as the Marines fought in the Pacific, while it was the Army which fought in Europe.

Now just what was the name of that US marine unit in France with which your father served as liaison officer in WW II?

Or perhaps your father was confused as to which war it was. The Marines fought in Europe in the First World War.

[andrewcraig]

Hey this has got off topic so quickly

Can someone find a you tube or similar of the Village People and"In the Navy"

I am sure my right hand will not object, and I personally will rise to the occasion

[adman5000]

Snowkat - portions of many countries populations are well manipulated by propaganda including your own. It is also an incorrect generalization to say most Americans fall for what the media provides them as they do not.

Generalizations, stereotyping, and negative venting about any group is really pointless and divisive. It is propaganda itself. I view those activities as the source of many problems. I try to go by my own experiences and observations and not believe what I am fed. Many things I have read regarding something I had true personal knowledge about, I found biased and incorrect. I remind myself of that fact when I read something negative or inflammatory including your own posting.

If I met a young Brit sailor in Pattaya, I would not view him as the representation of any negative thoughts I had about the UK or it's long past relationships with many areas of the world. I would judge him on our interaction.

Now just what was the name of that US marine unit in France with which your father served as liaison officer in WW II?
He definitely said at the time that is was a 'marine' unit (but that may have been poetic license). I'm afraid I cannot re-check the story as he departed this mortal coil some thirty years ago. I don't now the unit but he was seconded to Eisenhower's staff and joined whichever US unit it was in the Normandy landings and push into France.

If Americans hadn't fought in WW2, we would all be speaking German. Or actually we would all be killed for being gay.

тАЬтАжI wish you had told the Navy how you feel nine, and again six decades ago. They could have stayed home instead of dying to save your sorry butt.

you think military men nowadays are really in it for the sake of the country or his people?
they are in the military because of the pay and the pension!

[cottmann]

If Americans hadn't fought in WW2, we would all be speaking German. Or actually we would all be killed for being gay.

Probably not. An argument can be made that US involvement - at least in Europe - had little effect as Germany would probably have collapsed anyway because empires tend to weaken when engaged in war. Europeans might all be speaking Russian, however, if the US had not become involved because the US befriended Stalin. As a human slaughterhouse, there is little to choose between Stalin's Soviet Union and Nazi Germany. Stalin was responsible for a minimum of 20 million deaths resulting from the terror famine in the Ukraine, the purges, and the Gulag. By becoming Stalin's ally, the US gave him a respectability he never could have earned, provided military assistance that may have saved his regime, and enabled his army to occupy half of Europe for 45 years.

See http://www.secondworldwar.co.uk/casualty.html for a listing of military and civilian fatalities in WWII.

It is unfortunately to late to let those soldiers whose bodies fill all those graves in the American cemetary on the Normandy coast that their death was for naught or that they were spineless and cowardly men. It certainly is a revelation to me that the English could have salvaged the situation in their war with Germany without the help of America. Would the Brits have been swimming across the channel to invade France and push back the Germans? Were the British building enough bombers and fighters to sustain air attack on Europe. I think not. I think it was the ability of the Americans to manufacture military arms and equipment along with their soldiers who saved the day. That does not mean that British soldiers and those from France and other countries did not contribute greatly to the invasion of Europe. However, to state that Germany could have been defeated without the sacrafices made by America and its soldiers is shear fantasy. Further, had not the Americans given aid to the Russians (as bad as they were) it is quite possible that Russia might not have been able to sustain fighting on the Eastern Front thus allowing Germany to concentrate on defeating the British on the Western Front. Had not the United States been there to assist in the invasion the whole of Europe might have ended up in Russian hands.

It is all very easy to make conjecture about what if this and what if that, but the fact is Britain was NOT winning the war at the point America entered into the war in Europe. It seems like Winston Churchill was working like crazy to get the Americans involved in the war. There must have been a pretty good reason.

If it makes those of you who continually bash America and Americans feel superior go right ahead but to call men who fought during the invasion cowardly is a bit much to suit me. I think one should tread lightly on that subject.

Just maybe IF our "fearless leader", George "Fuckhead" Bush, had not received the support from Tony, he would not have been so keen on attacking Iraq. If you righteous Brits on this forum will recall Tony seemed to also be a keen supporter of the activities in Iraq. Of course now Britain is bailing out of this mess, not a bad thing mind you, but I don't see any of the guys in your govenment saying this was a big mistake or putting any pressure on Bush to develop some kind of exit stategy. Let's just face the fact that all countries have the good, the bad, and the ugly and stop bashing others with these broad strokes.

To get this thread back on track, all those young american sailors are good for the Thai economy and I will bet that the girls in those bars are happy as hell to see all those 18 to 25 year old horny guys hit town. Must be a real treat to get a good fuck from some 22 year old versus some fat 55 year old farang. To those of you who don't wish to interact with young male meat, stay home for a week. Yes these guys will get drunk and probably behave somewhat obnoxiously at times but then so do soldiers and sailors from every country including Britain.

[cottmann]

President Franklin D. Roosevelt told Prime Minister Winston Churchill in August, 1941, that he was looking for an incident to justify opening hostilities against Nazi Germany. . . . On August 19 Churchill reported to the War Cabinet in London on other aspects of the Newfoundland [Atlantic Charter] meeting that were not made public. . . . "He [Roosevelt] obviously was determined that they should come in. If he were to put the issue of peace and war to Congress, they would debate it for months," the Cabinet minutes added. "The President had said he would wage war but not declare it and that he would become more and more provocative. If the Germans did not like it, they could attack American forces. . . . Everything was to be done to force an incident."