the most profitable gay gogo bar in Pattaya

[lonelywombat]

I had my ear bent at the airport by someone who recognized me from Pattaya. He is a big fan of Kaos and

feels it is the most profitable bar in gay pattaya

Look at how happy they are compared to other bars, he said. someone please do this for me

They get paid a wage and 1OO baht for a show maximum of 2O boys each night. MOST BOYS WANT TO BE IN THE SHOW.

Then whilst the farang are sitting there eyes bulging, they collect tip of 1OO baht per customer to pay the boys.

Most nights there are more than 2O customers and the show costs nothing in fact returns a profit

Bar sales are all profit, floor show makes a profit and boys are happy. boss very happy

I cannot remember the cheap charlies complaining about drink prices in Kaos

Can you imagine the reaction if any other bar charged 1OO baht cover charge for a show

OK its a happy bar, but you said the bar sales are all profit. Who pays for the liquor and beer? Also, the 100 baht tip per customer is not a entrance fee. You don't have to cough up a hundred if you don't want to.
After several visits it actually gets boring don't you think? Just my opinion. Kindly old Boogyman

[dab69]

push katoey "buy me drink"

now tip me because I sit with you
and bother you...

[lonelywombat]

OK its a happy bar, but you said the bar sales are all profit. Who pays for the liquor and beer? Also, the 100 baht tip per customer is not a entrance fee. You don't have to cough up a hundred if you don't want to.
After several visits it actually gets boring don't you think? Just my opinion. Kindly old Boogyman

Ah boogyman I have made your day. A 9 hour flight and a few too many G and T

It never occured to me that the 100 baht donation would be knocked back. Probably by those who complain about overpriced drinks .Has there been a recent thread re drink prices in Kaos.

Now what else can they complain about. The boys being too old, their willies not---------------------------

too late and I am jet lagged.

Kaos boring???? I seem to see some of the same guys either cuming or going from the show everynight that I have been in Sunee. They must not be bored. :bounce:

I am very glad to see a profitable bar in Pattaya...no profit, no bars, no shows, no boys. Thank heavens for profit. Yes, I can imagine paying 100 baht to see a show, especially at Kaos because you can see the management hand the money directly to the boys as they leave the stage. The cheapness of some of the posters on this board is amazing. If one can't affort to give a boy a 100 baht tip one has no business being in Thailand on vaction or bing an expat.

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you've seen the boys trying to get it hard 3 or 4 times what else is there?

5 ?

Kaos boring???? I seem to see some of the same guys either cuming or going from the show everynight that I have been in Sunee. They must not be bored. :bounce:

. If one can't affort to give a boy a 100 baht tip one has no business being in Thailand on vaction or bing an expat.

Small minds would not be bored seeing the same thing every night. Others have not made this bar a second home/first life.
So you think those who are not wealthy have no business being in Thailand? This is certainly the most stupid sentence
ever submitted on this forum. Congratulations for achiving this status.]

[puckered_penguin]

I had my ear bent at the airport by someone who recognized me from Pattaya. He is a big fan of Kaos and

feels it is the most profitable bar in gay pattaya

Look at how happy they are compared to other bars, he said. someone please do this for me

They get paid a wage and 1OO baht for a show maximum of 2O boys each night. MOST BOYS WANT TO BE IN THE SHOW.

Then whilst the farang are sitting there eyes bulging, they collect tip of 1OO baht per customer to pay the boys.

Most nights there are more than 2O customers and the show costs nothing in fact returns a profit

Bar sales are all profit, floor show makes a profit and boys are happy. boss very happy

Profit -hmmm how much?

Some figures: (best guesstimates)
Costs:
Police bribes 50,000 Baht per month to various forces in low season. add 50% more n high season
Staff wages not less than 100,000 p.m.
Food and subsidised accomodation 20,000 p.m.
drink and other consumables 80,000 p.m. (low season)
Ammortized fit-out costs, rent and maintenance say 40,000 p.m.
Utilities 20,000 pm
Quarterly fines to police following raids 50,000 = 17,000 pm

Income
About 9,000 per day and up to 25.000 in high season.

Profit Nitneung krub. in low season at least

Benefits for owners: First choice of boys and can feel them grow up!

My guess would be Jim Jimm James for the most profitable bar. Good service nice boys and a loyal client base.

Profit -hmmm how much?

Some figures: (best guesstimates)
Costs:
Police bribes 50,000 Baht per month to various forces in low season. add 50% more n high season
Staff wages not less than 100,000 p.m.
Food and subsidised accomodation 20,000 p.m.
drink and other consumables 80,000 p.m. (low season)
Ammortized fit-out costs, rent and maintenance say 40,000 p.m.
Utilities 20,000 pm
Quarterly fines to police following raids 50,000 = 17,000 pm

Income
About 9,000 per day and up to 25.000 in high season.

Profit Nitneung krub. in low season at least

Benefits for owners: First choice of boys and can feel them grow up!


Dear puckered_penguin,

honestly you are wrong with your figures. Brown bribes are between 9.000 - 15.000 Baht, but only for GO GO Bars, Karaoke Bars, sex massage places. Places with underaged Staff or Sex show places have to pay more and beloved from the Browns. I don't know how you figure out staff wages, income and the other stuff.


:diabloanifire:

[Dodger]

Soi Tom Quote


I am very glad to see a profitable bar in Pattaya...no profit, no bars, no shows, no boys. Thank heavens for profit. Yes, I can imagine paying 100 baht to see a show, especially at Kaos because you can see the management hand the money directly to the boys as they leave the stage. The cheapness of some of the posters on this board is amazing. If one can't affort to give a boy a 100 baht tip one has no business being in Thailand on vaction or bing an expat.

Tom...I couldn't agree more, and very well stated.

Do you suggest we round up those who don't tip what you think is correct? Why not include those of the wrong color or race? How about those who wear sox with sandals? My personal favorite would be the fat, bald guys.
Come on lets wear our swastika arm bands and run this trash out of Thailand.

You freakin creep Dodger. There, now I feel much better. the Boogyman

[puckered_penguin]

krazyDragon

honestly you are wrong with your figures. Brown bribes are between 9.000 - 15.000 Baht, but only for GO GO Bars, Karaoke Bars, sex massage places. Places with underaged Staff or Sex show places have to pay more and beloved from the Browns. I don't know how you figure out staff wages, income and the other stuff.


Exactly , does Kaos not have to pay 3 times as they have all the items that attract the 'Brown bribes' namely under-age staff, sex shows and they are a go go bar?

[llz]

Exactly , does Kaos not have to pay 3 times as they have all the items that attract the 'Brown bribes' namely under-age staff, sex shows and they are a go go bar?
I would have thought of another one which could explain why some boys are so restless when they are on the scene - not that I don't like the atmosphere of course ....

[Dodger]

Boogyman Quote:


Do you suggest we round up those who don't tip what you think is correct? Why not include those of the wrong color or race? How about those who wear sox with sandals? My personal favorite would be the fat, bald guys.
Come on lets wear our swastika arm bands and run this trash out of Thailand.

You freakin creep Dodger. There, now I feel much better. the Boogyman

Those who don't know how to be considerate when tipping, or are just too selfish and self-centered to recognize the obligation to pay for things you receive, have already rounded themselves up...they don't need me to do it for them.

As far as your "freaken creep" remark goes...you've just put yourself in the same circle.

mai pen rai

... Snowcat hasn't yet contributed to this thread. He's a veritable expert on the profitability of bars in Thailand and, according to him, they are all highly profitable, uniformly ripping their customers off to the maximum with their liquor prices

No reason for selling a profitable business

If an owner is staying on with his business, it is profitable.

If businesses are undergoing permanent changes of owners, layout, concept, it’s hardly profitable. That’s it.

This might help you to identify well and less profitable businesses. Including gogo-bars.

Those who don't know how to be considerate when tipping, or are just too selfish and self-centered to recognize the obligation to pay for things you receive, have already rounded themselves up...they don't need me to do it for them.



Obligation to pay for things you receive..... seems if you don't pay for things you receive you will be tackled at the door as you leave. What on Earth are you babbling about Dodgy? I thought we were talking about tipping not buying.
I hope you can enjoy your stay in Thailand even if you must share it with others who do not share your view. Amen.

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[Dodger]

I hope you can enjoy your stay in Thailand even if you must share it with others who do not share your view.



I don't mean to offend you (as you did me). but the farangs I associate with when on holiday never have a problem tossing a few baht in a hat after enjoying a show. I tend to avoid those who don't. A cheapskate isn't a person who doesn't have the baht to drop - it's simply a person who's too self-absorbed to understand the value of giving.

I have to compliment you for finding my comments discriminating - because that was my intent.

mai pen rai

[Dodger]

John Quote


Dodger & Soi10, you think I have no right to be in Thailand. I am correct? The fact that I employ 6 Thai staff, pay them above the going rate, pay them holiday pay, pay their social security for them, positively contribute to the legitimate Thai economy by paying my taxes counts for nothing because I don't tip the boys in a gogo bar 100 baht fro trying to get a public hard on?

Exactly,...either give him the tip he deserves or stay at work. Don't give us that..."I gave at the office" bullshit...55555

I''ll buy you a drink next week, but I'll have one eye cracked to see if you leave the tip.

I don't mean to offend you (as you did me). but the farangs I associate with when on holiday never have a problem tossing a few baht in a hat after enjoying a show. I tend to avoid those who don'tOh no! Dodger won't be spending time with me while he's on holidays

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[Dodger]

John,

Who said anything about your employment record (other than you)?

And what does your employment record have to do with tipping boys???

If you're in business it's for one reason, and one reason only, to make money. I think it's wonderful that you pay your Thai staff for working for you, but let's keep it real, you're not paying them as some sort of donation, you're paying them because you need them to accomplish your objective...of making money for yourself.

I'm confused why you're trying to rationalize not tipping a boy who provides you with a service, based on the fact that you have your own business??? If your customers didn't pay you, how long would you be in business?? Are you suggesting that the working boys in the bars you frequent deserve less?

I look at it this way...what goes around - comes around.

[PinkSilom]

I'm with Mr Botting on this one. Next time I eat out in the UK, I shall take along a photocopy of my tax return. When the waiters see how much I'm already contributing to the community pot, they'll understand why I'm leaving no tip.

If someone is paying high taxes it can only mean that he is earning a lot of money and so there's no reason why he can't be generous with tips.

That 20 baht tip means so little to us but to a working thai with a family to feed it helps greatly. When you are in a bar it is for enjoyment so why not show the satff that you appreciate them. Its so little an amount.

[Dodger]

Cheapness...

The man who is born stingy can be taught to give liberally-with his hands; but not with his heart...

The man born kind and compassionate can have that disposition crushed down out of sight by embittering experience; but if it were an organ the postmortem would find it in his corpse.

Mark Twain

John,

Who said anything about your employment record (other than you)?

And what does your employment record have to do with tipping boys???

If you're in business it's for one reason, and one reason only, to make money. I think it's wonderful that you pay your Thai staff for working for you, but let's keep it real, you're not paying them as some sort of donation, you're paying them because you need them to accomplish your objective...of making money for yourself.

I'm confused why you're trying to rationalize not tipping a boy who provides you with a service, based on the fact that you have your own business??? If your customers didn't pay you, how long would you be in business?? Are you suggesting that the working boys in the bars you frequent deserve less?

I look at it this way...what goes around - comes around.

Right on Dodger. http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/luxhello.gif


G.

It's imposible to have a rational conversation with one who thinks that they should be paid for their services, but they should be exempt from paying others for their serivces. You go to anothers place of business....you partake in the entertainment serivce that they provide...you pay for the service...seems staightforward to me. I'm sure that there is a twisted arguement as to why one should not pay for services rendered, but using that twisted logic prehaps the next time I need to rent a car I can just drive off with it without paying......seem logical enough...if one is a bit twisted in their thinking.

The only logic thats twisted is yours. How do you equate renting a car with going in a bar and buying a drink?
I pay for that drink. I pay for the rental car. Same, same.
Not paying 20 baht to some sullen, ungrateful twit to bring it to my table has nothing to do with buying goods.
In some countries it is customary to say thank you when being tipped. A nod of the head or a bit of a smile will suffice as well. Not so here in most places. They think its their 'right' to get a tip. THAT is what rubs my fur the wrong way.
I don't want to imply that I do not tip anyone. Just those who have done something to warrant it. NOW do you get it?
Or is everything beyond your understanding? Amen

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And I notice that twat George has come out the wood work as he thinks he can smell blood.

Let's set the record straight here Botting. As far as I am concerned, there are only two twats on this board and you are both of them. I have also come out of no woodwork, I just happen to have been very busy in my real life, as some of us here are.

As far as smelling blood goes, you couldn't be more wrong. The only thing I smell where your posts are concerned, is bullshit, you pompous prick. http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/2finger.gif


G.

[catawampuscat]

It is somewhat mystifying why other farangs care if JB tips 50B. or 100B. at Villa Rogue (old Kaos).
There are always going to be those who tip different amounts and those who rationalize and pontificate
about not tipping at all..
At the end of the show the boys walk off with an average of 100B. each. Some nites more, some nites less.
It all averages out in the end...

For all the small tippers, there are a couple of whales (casino term for big spenders) who make up the difference
and drop big tips on the boys.

One sport gave every boy in Krazy Dragon 200B. each and this must have set him back 5 or 6,000 Baht. This should
somewhat balance out the farangs who fondle and then don't tip. It isn't worth getting upset about..
Easy boys.. it is all about having the time of your life and if some farangs can't part with a few baht, don't fret, others
will balance it out in the long term... :cat:

Probably the thing that amazes me the most on this board is just what you said. So many posters love to put words and thoughts into others mouths. They feel reading a few sentences from a poster gives them a total insight into the life of that poster. And what they extrapolate from the post it is never in favor of the poster. Ain't life grand?
And John, don't let the bastards get you down. Give em' hell.

[Dodger]

Boogyman Quote:


Do you suggest we round up those who don't tip what you think is correct? Why not include those of the wrong color or race? How about those who wear sox with sandals? My personal favorite would be the fat, bald guys.
Come on lets wear our swastika arm bands and run this trash out of Thailand.

You freakin creep Dodger. There, now I feel much better. the Boogyman

Boogy...seeing as my first comment on this post, which was no more than a simple agreement with another posters point of view, has to do with racism, discrimination or swastikas, is beyond me. You then felt compelled to throw in an additional insult.

Now, after all the daggers are drawn, you slither back into the conversation with a statement that you don't understand why some posters try to put words in others mouths. You're a real piece of art.

If anyone here wants a good laugh, just follow Boogeyman's comments on this post from the beginning.

Do you feel much better now Boogy?

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Do you feel much better now Boogy?[/quote]

Dodgy I always feel good. Thanks for asking anyway.

Let's set the record straight here Botting. As far as I am concerned, there are only two twats on this board and you are both of themI do so love these posts where Our Resident Bodhisattva George provides us with examples of the value of the Buddhist lifestyle for detachment and all those other strengths of the spiritual life. I must also say that I'm feeling left out that I am not one of the two twats, and think it's rather selfish of John to be both of them

I must also say that I'm feeling left out that I am not one of the two twats, and think it's rather selfish of John to be both of them
No dearie, most of us just see you as a senile old cunt.

[krobbie]

... we started off talking about the most profitable bar / club in Pattaya, (which I know nothing about(, and was looking forward to the comments. Oops!

Gents, we seem to have gone off point and it's turned into a shit fight ... again.

Kiss and make up!

Cheers
krobbie :blackeye:

[Shuee]

well here's my 1bt worth, for what its worth!!

if a older guy is has the decency to pay for the show in this particular bar, & is trying to make his small pension last for the years he thinks he has left, then its up to him what he gives.
i have seen other farlangs much younger, (probably still working), just wave the tip pot away & pay nothing on a regular basis!!

i have always paid the 100bt, BUT the show is not as good as it used to be, & the people on stage can at times really not put much effort in.
Also if the mamasuns are doing a sh*t job as they mostly do, by standing outside bar & not keeping an eye on things inside. Or waiters screaming & persturing for tips/drinks, or sarcastic boi's, then now i pay LESS, as i am not made to feel in a good mood & put up with sh*t cervice.
i obviously think show is still worth seeing & hope for the night that it is as good as when it first started, & that i still at this stage do contribute something to wards its, but this may stop in the future??

... we started off talking about the most profitable bar / club in Pattaya, (which I know nothing about(And clearly you are one of a substantial majority

Well Georgie, I thought you had this pompous prick on ignore?

Can't get enough of my bullshit eh????

Put make back on ignore dear, if you dare.

To set the record straight once again Botting DEAR, I have never had you on ignore, I have just chosen to ignore yours bullshit ramblings most of the time, as I do those of that senile old cunt Hommie. Choc Dee my DEAR, you have a nice day.

G.

[Dodger]

This is just Great.

I'm really sorry I've been so inactive on this Board for the past few months. I never realized the amount of fun I was missing.

Let's do a run-down of this thread posted by Lonelywombat (who, by the way, must be feeling really lonely about now):

In chronological order:

Boogyman starts the ball rolling by inferring that Soi 10 has a "small mind."

Boogyman then calls me a "freakin creep."

The Colonel (Homi) then insults Snowcat who hasn't even muttered a word on this thread.

John calls George a "twat."

George calls John a "pompous prick."

Boogyman then refers to those who opposed his position as "bastards."

Homi then takes a swipe at George for his Buddhist beliefs.

Buageng calls Homi a "senile old cunt."

End of Play

Maybe it's the scorching summer heat...the effects of a dull low-season, or just the boredom that parallels the aging process, who knows. But one things for sure, if any newcomers are reading this stuff they have to really be impressed by the closeness we all share as senior members of the Forum.

So, to any newcomers who may be reading this stuff, just go fuck yourselves. If we wanted your opinions we'd ask for them, you cock suckin' mother fuckin' assholes.

[Aunty]

I'm not feeling the love!

The Colonel (Homi) then insults Snowcat who hasn't even muttered a word on this thread.

Oh dear me, have I missed another dollop of shit from Homoturd? Thankfully it shows just how effective the ignore button is :geek: .

[Dodger]

Oops...We missed a late comer.

Snowcat now arrives and refers to Homi as "Homoturd."

I'm still wiping the tears from my eyes from laughing my ass off.

[lonelywombat]

The fact that some guy in the airport wants to talk to you about this shows that he must lead a very sad life IMHO.

I thought I should reply as JB seems to think this guy came up to me and raised the subject.

My international flight from BKK was cancelled and all passsengers were required to sit around the check in area

whilst they tried to get us onto other planes. There are few seats in check in and most of us were sitting on our bags,

or up against counters. He put his suitcases next to mine and after chatting about where we were going he mentioned

he knew me from Montys .

Fascinating he was flying business class. I saw his ticket.

Puts a new spin on cheap charlies doesnt it

Sad life--- I wonder whose is the saddest

This thread was like red rag to some unfortunately.

I am now back in Pattaya and amused the way the thread turned out

[thaiguest]

By far the best bar is JimJimmyJames.
New renovations now complete results in a beautiful bar designed for our pleasure.
The bar is professionally run, the boys are handsome and polite and there's an outside area for casual drinking at a very reasonable price.
You can expect a big influx of new boys for the high season....but i think i'll stick to my old favourites...unless of course Jimmy recruits above and beyond the average...which is very possible....in which case i'll be torn between old reliables and new. Oh, help me God.

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This thread was like red rag to some unfortunately.

I am now back in Pattaya and amused the way the thread turned out

Yup, you said the word "tip" and it was off to the races.

This is just Great.

John calls George a "twat."




No he does not. Georgie Porgie calls John 2 twats. John calls Georgie Porgie nothing. But he should do, and he will. George is a cunt. There you go, now add that to your list.

And I notice that twat George has come out the wood work

Apart from being a bullshitter Botting dear, you are obviously a lying cunt as well. But hey, after slandering Geoff the new owner of Bondi and not apologising for it when you fucked up and got the wrong information, we already knew that didn't we? Carry on with your bullshit Botting, from your comment above, everyone can see exactly the type of person you are, as well as being a liar. What a disgrace you are. President of Rotary? I have shit better Presidents. http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/shake_head.gif


G.

[catawampuscat]

Sad to see JB self destructing in front of our eyes.
JB must realize he is taking over from boygeenyus and alienating many on this forum
with his overly caustic personal statements. JB should also realize that tooting his own
horn about his business, employees etc. just doesn't come across as humble.

I don't think anyone has to concern themselves with the ignore button as JB has pushed
the self destruct one. :cat:

Sad to see JB self destructing in front of our eyes.

"If you want to test a man's character, give him power".- Abraham Lincoln

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[Smiles]

" ... George is a cunt. There you go, now add that to your list. ... "
And it just goes to show that I was absolutely correct in my previous supposition regarding the '4th Law of Message Board Thermodynamics': that is to say ... "Any thread which has surpassed 2,500 views ... OR ... 4 pages in length, shall inevitably deteriorate to the point where responders are calling each other cunts, Nazis, or mother fuckin' assholes".

You heard about it here first and I hope you all feel warm and fuzzy.

Cheers ... 'Smiles Newton'

Quote by John Botting: "Well George is an insignificunt piece of dirt who lives in a world far from reality."


Well Botting, you have really surpassed yourself this time. To make the above comment about someone without knowing anything whatsoever about them, says more about the type of person that you are than I ever could in response. For the record, I live as I have always done in the real world, which is the only one I know. Living in a world far from reality in my opinion, would be whereby one has delusions of their own self importance and where they believe, that unlike everyone else, there shit doesn't stink. Now I wonder who that would be a very fitting description of? http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/whistle.gif

Quote by John Botting: "Interestingly, as well as having several PM's from people supporting me. "

What a coincidence! I have also had several Pm's from members supporting me advising me not to let you bully me away from the board. I have assured them, that they would have more chance in getting shit from a rocking horse, than my ever allowing that to happen.

One thing in life you obviously never learned Botting, which is understandable taking into account your previous vocation. It is: If you can't take it, don't dish it out. http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/no_no.gif


G.

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One thing in life you obviously never learned Botting, which is understandable taking into account your previous vocation.

G.


OK, now I understand! Anyone who makes the above comment about a dedicated and worthwhile vocation is not worthy of knowing. BTW Georgie dear, you'd also be interested to know that I am a Police Volunteer here at Soi 9. Just keeping my hand in the old vocation.

And. That should worry me? I hope Botting dear, that the above statement is not some kind of veiled threat!


G.

you'd also be interested to know that I am a Police Volunteer here at Soi 9. Just keeping my hand in the old vocation.
Crikey, not only President of the Rotary Club but a member of the brown mafia as well!! The poor guy seems to be power mad?? :geek:

"That should worry me? I hope Botting dear, that the above statement is not some kind of veiled threat!" Georgy said.


Ummm I would have to say the Burka is off.

[PinkSilom]

Well, at least if the 'hobby bobby' gets roped in to helping out at a Sunee Plaza raid, he'll know everyone by name. LOL

[Smiles]

Mr John Botting (Corporal) . . . Rotarian, Morality Cop, Brown Mafioso, Veiled Threat. And decent package:


http://my.photodump.com/sawatdee/burka.jpg

Cheers ...

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[Wesley]

So, you are there to help helpless farang not the police with information on who they can extract THB from? Is that accurate.

Wes

[catawampuscat]

Those of us with some memory cells still working can remember the policy on this forum about staying on topic.

I can even remember when the moderators would break off a wandering thread that lost any connection to the topic..

I am glad to see JB regain his composure and no longer see him as the next boygeenyus, spinning out of control and
making threats (later described as non-threats).

One benefit of using handles is that ones ego and need to promote oneself lessens as no one knows who you are.
However, using ones actual name (unlike one poster who insisted everyone on the planet knew who he was but he used
many handles and never his actual name in this forum) promotes self aggrandizing and personalized the attacks from
other posters.

A bit scary now with Smiles posting his photo (to some acclaim) and the notorious posting of badboybilly's photo which
thankfully was later removed.

There is something to be said for anonymity and for the moderating of wayward threads. What that is I will leave to you boys... :cat:

[quote="John Botting":3ote6x65] you'd also be interested to know that I am a Police Volunteer here at Soi 9. Just keeping my hand in the old vocation.
Crikey, not only President of the Rotary Club but a member of the brown mafia as well!! The poor guy seems to be power mad?? :geek:

There seems to be some misunderstanding about being a President of a Rotary Club. So let me explain the system.
--------------As for the police volunteer role, we wear a black uniform not brown! And again I have no power. [/quote:3ote6x65]
Apologies to JB - I used the wrong adjective - for 'power' insert 'ego' :geek:

[quote="John Botting":281ndlwa] you'd also be interested to know that I am a Police Volunteer here at Soi 9. Just keeping my hand in the old vocation.
Crikey, not only President of the Rotary Club but a member of the brown mafia as well!! The poor guy seems to be power mad?? :geek:



There seems to be some misunderstanding about being a President of a Rotary Club. So let me explain the system.

Firstly, to be a Rotarian you must be invited to join by an existing Rotarian. You can't just say "I'm going to join a Rotary Club, where can I sign up?" I was asked to join Rotary initially.

Then to be a member of the board (which you must be before you can be a President) you must be selected as a board member by the membership. Again, I was selected as a board member 3 years ago. Lastly to be the President you are nominated by the membership. You can obviously turn down nomination, but it is an honour to be nominated. Then if the members nominate more than one candidate it goes to a secret vote. Who ever gets the most votes is elected. This happened to me. There were 2 nominees and I won.

So, its nothing to do with power. Its to do with being selected, and the membership having confidence in your ability to lead the club for a year. And anyway, what power does a President of a Rotary Club have?

As for the police volunteer role, we wear a black uniform not brown! And again I have no power. The Soi 9 volunteers (all 65 of them and including some gay people who will be known to some of you here) sit in the station and are there to offer support and guidance to foreigners who have reason to attend the police station. They are guided by us to which department they need to go to after listening to what the problem is. We sit in on interviews (when asked to) if there is a communication problem between the police and the victim/criminal. We do not patrol the streets (as the Tourist Police Volunteers do), we are purely there as an assistance the the foreign population of Pattaya. They are the facts, and not the fiction that will be in some peoples minds![/quote:281ndlwa]


Dear John,

honestly there is something, what I not understand. What make a foreigner wearing some Black Uniform to a Brown Volunteer without any Power? Is that some Honor? Why casual clothes not enough! Who make the black uniform role? Mean that to have a kick in some Uniform to be something? Why the Browns need Foreigners for there work? They cannot do there Job anyway! I am not accusing, I am questioning only!

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For the life of me I can not see why you bother with some of those on this board.
I hope its not some sort of self-mutilation. All the best, boogy

For fuck sake stop scratching your arse all the time and put some clothes on. You look revolting. http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/vomit.gif


G.

Boy, 5 pages of trading insults. This must be some kind of record....even for Sawatee! :argue: :bootyshake: :cussing: :thefinger: :violent3: :box:

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Well what do you expect kenc? George has been active on this thread 5555

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OK Guys,

What about the people who are volunteers [ not in the station ] that go out and "off" Foreign prostitutes eg Russian etc and get to the room allowing the Police to make an arrest and extort monies from them??

Why not go out and entrap the Thais?? or is that too easy, not newsworthy and the Browns cannot extract enough monies from them??

OK Guys,

What about the people who are volunteers [ not in the station ] that go out and "off" Foreign prostitutes eg Russian etc and get to the room allowing the Police to make an arrest and extort monies from them??

Why not go out and entrap the Thais?? or is that too easy, not newsworthy and the Browns cannot extract enough monies from them??

A very good point Kevin.

Choc Dee,

George.

[paulg]

There is a very detailed debate going on ThaiVisa Pattaya section at the moment all about the Tourist Police Volunteers, and then the FPV also. It is interesting and for a change not turned into a slanging match. Take a look.

Obviously it will start to go down hill when you start posting like every thread here does