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July 1st, 2007, 17:18
Previous such reports of shipments of virgins have been greatly exaggerated.

July 1st, 2007, 17:54
Great report with interesting detail,

do we know what is to happen of Boi Esan that JJJ is extending into, are they to relocate or is that the end! oh no.......!!

July 1st, 2007, 18:16
Last night I visited Kaos Bar for the first and the last time. I never saw in my life such a kindergarden packed with paedophile costumers. This place is absolutely discusting and have to be closed for ever. All the responsible persons for this bar have to be arrested and jailed. I hear that a foreigner owns this place. How he can go away with that dirty shit. When none corrupt officials arrest him some day, he will not see the daylight again. I not even nipped on my drink. 3 min was enough what I saw and went away. I saw in the past Sri Lanka, the Phillipines and Indonesia are almost gone for Gay people, because of the paedophiles.

catawampuscat
July 1st, 2007, 21:02
The new Jimmi James will still have an open air beer bar in front of where Boy Isan was. There are still many bar beers on
this soi and I don't think you will have any trouble finding what you are looking for. :cat:

Up2U
July 1st, 2007, 23:42
K2Y is going to be called LA LUNA (Hope they have more luck then the last one) and OPENING TONIGHT with a hot new batch of young Virgins, .....

Y2K opened tonight.....no name change at this time. Didn't see the new virgins but many of the ladyboy staff and dancers from Kaos now work here.

I think salamanca needs an eye exam. The police regarly visit the bars and do I.D. and drug checks. Bars risk 60-day or permanent closures.

July 2nd, 2007, 01:04
I think salamanca needs an eye exam. The police regarly visit the bars and do I.D. and drug checks. Bars risk 60-day or permanent closures.

Pedo bars such as Kaos have no worries about anything suspect being found in the raids as they are fully paid up members of the 'Police advance notice of a raid tip-off' club.

July 2nd, 2007, 01:46
well what of k-boi's, or is that still shut like euro?

is holiday2 (butt bar) & its other bar - bar 69 round the corner still going too.......

catawampuscat
July 2nd, 2007, 12:10
The new and improved Y2K is Kaos 2.
It looked like the same bunch of ladyboy mamasans and lady-boy wait staff.

The boys were packed on the stage and looked like the rejects from Kaos but for those who admire skinny Isan boys of questionable
legal age (I didn't look at IDs but many looked doogy agewise), it will be a new spot to stop off in.

If you like young guys, the handsome and hot ones are over at Jimmi James in Sunee and but while some are beauties, not all are quite old enough to bring back to your hotel.
The new boss at Y2K, or maybe manager is a delight and chainsmokes as he nervously patrols the narrow aisles. I for one, hate it when the staff smokes and when the boss smokes, it is criminally stupid.
If this farang is not the boss or the manager, he sure acted like one and cigarette smoking by the management is enough of a reason to not frequent a bar as any.

Maybe the la luna signage is late but la lunatic would be more appropriate if the screeching ladyboys and cigarette smoke continue.. :cat:

catawampuscat
July 2nd, 2007, 12:29
K-Boys looks dead in the water and there is no talk of reopening at the moment. It was a hellhole of depravity and
baby boys and pathetic after the exodus to Kaos when management changed. It would be stupid to reopen as they
would just be closed down again in a flash.

Euro Boys was cleaned out by a dishonest staff member trusted with keys and I don't know if there is anything remaining.
The owner was in town recently and would like to sell but it is also no loss.

Holiday 2 and "69" open and close frequently and for a while 69 was for the lady-boys and Holiday 2 for the boy boys.
Both are depressing dirty bars and brutality of the part of the owner's (son?) was openly displayed in front
of customers when a boy was beaten. The monk should consider elevating his choices of bars as these are
not quite heaven sent. These observations are from a farangs with zero interest in underage skinny Isaan boys and
should be understood to be biased against that scene. Include lady-boy mamasans, lady-boy waiters and lady-boy dancers
in my no interest section.

My personal guess is that this scene will die a slow death in Sunee as police pressure is kept up on the yaabaa drug scene
as well as the underage. Classy joints like Jimmi James, Krazy Dragon and Top Man will survive but the other go go bars will have
to change or risk extinction. I wonder is anyone sees this differently?

July 2nd, 2007, 16:19
Last night I visited Kaos Bar for the first and the last time. I never saw in my life such a kindergarden packed with paedophile costumers. This place is absolutely discusting and have to be closed for ever. All the responsible persons for this bar have to be arrested and jailed. I hear that a foreigner owns this place. How he can go away with that dirty shit. When none corrupt officials arrest him some day, he will not see the daylight again. I not even nipped on my drink. 3 min was enough what I saw and went away. I saw in the past Sri Lanka, the Phillipines and Indonesia are almost gone for Gay people, because of the paedophiles.

I take it from this post of yours, that you didn't enjoy the experience of Kaos then? http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/whistle.gif

G.

andrewcraig
July 2nd, 2007, 18:47
Last night I visited Kaos Bar for the first and the last time. I never saw in my life such a kindergarden packed with paedophile costumers.

The frequency of the posts promoting or just mentioning Kaos, is an interesting subject.

Those who make a living promoting bars,cafes and restaurants, have a tendency to gloss over the unpleasant bits.

In return they get free drinks or a freebie meal in a "friends restaurant" for their promotions.

But are any Kaos dancers under 18. The answer has to be yes.

Are the majority under 18. Once again probably yes

Are there dancers under 16 . I doubt it

Are the patrons of these bars paedophiles, or are paedophiles more into under 14 or even under 12.?

You will see far worse in the open bars in Sunee than in Kaos.

I am not interested in defending Kaos but if that is your bitch you have not seen much of Sunee.

July 2nd, 2007, 20:20
Last night I visited Kaos Bar for the first and the last time. I never saw in my life such a kindergarden packed with paedophile costumers.

The frequency of the posts promoting or just mentioning Kaos, is an interesting subject.

Those who make a living promoting bars,cafes and restaurants, have a tendency to gloss over the unpleasant bits.

In return they get free drinks or a freebie meal in a "friends restaurant" for their promotions.

But are any Kaos dancers under 18. The answer has to be yes.

Are the majority under 18. Once again probably yes

Are there dancers under 16 . I doubt it

Are the patrons of these bars paedophiles, or are paedophiles more into under 14 or even under 12.?

You will see far worse in the open bars in Sunee than in Kaos.

I am not interested in defending Kaos but if that is your bitch you have not seen much of Sunee.


Extremely well put andrewcraig. I could not agree with you more in your comments.


G.

Lunchtime O'Booze
July 2nd, 2007, 21:13
" I never saw in my life such a kindergarden packed with paedophile costumers. This place is absolutely discusting and have to be closed for ever."

of the defence given by a Town Clerk in a South Croydon court after being busted at the infamous Janie Jones Luncheon Club where customers purchased and exchanged luncheon vouchers for sex with painted tarts.

"Why did you keep returning ?" asked the Magistrate..

"your worship", said the man" it was such a disgusting place and I was so shocked at the sordid goings-on, I couldn't believe my eyes..I had to go back several times to see if it was really true and that's why unfortunately I was arrested in a police raid..the reason I was dressed in a French Maid's outfit and being led on a leash by Ms Jones was part of my investigations !"
The case was dismissed.

July 2nd, 2007, 21:58
" I never saw in my life such a kindergarden packed with paedophile costumers. This place is absolutely discusting and have to be closed for ever."

of the defence given by a Town Clerk in a South Croydon court after being busted at the infamous Janie Jones Luncheon Club where customers purchased and exchanged luncheon vouchers for sex with painted tarts.

"Why did you keep returning ?" asked the Magistrate..

"your worship", said the man" it was such a disgusting place and I was so shocked at the sordid goings-on, I couldn't believe my eyes..I had to go back several times to see if it was really true and that's why unfortunately I was arrested in a police raid..the reason I was dressed in a French Maid's outfit and being led on a leash by Ms Jones was part of my investigations !"
The case was dismissed.

What you wrote is crap, Booze! Do you live in Tacka Tucka Land? There is no comparision with your reminds. Prostitutes in the bar have to be 18 and not under. Are you busted, you f...ked! True or not? So if some Tourist went in some Go Go bar, he expect, that the the boys are 18 yo and not children. Open your eyes men, b4 it is to late. And by the way, that was my first visit, as I wrote. With your easy minding, you are one of them, may destroy the last paradise!

July 2nd, 2007, 22:20
So proof your maintaining Mr. Salamanca! Names and pictures and copy of id-card???
I visited in february about 10 times kaos and dont saw any underage boys and i only saw normal customers.
Dont spread such a shit. So if you never visit the bar again so we can be happy.

July 2nd, 2007, 22:42
I dont think your find any underage boys in KAOSnow days.... but Im sure it is good for Publicity to let the masses think there ,well last time I was there, you could not find a seat and in low season that is not too bad for the cash register Im sure. nice if more then the normal 4 could gat it hard have they not heard of Viagra.


Are you saying that the majority of readers here are into underage boys? It's hard to understand WHAT you're saying through all that broken grammar and pidgin spelling.

Wesley
July 2nd, 2007, 23:01
yes, there is help for spelling; I think he is a bit to much in a hurry to take pot shots at the next poster to use it.

July 2nd, 2007, 23:13
yes, there is help for spelling; I think he is a bit to much in a hurry to take pot shots at the next poster to use it.

"to much in a hurry?" What's your excuse?

July 2nd, 2007, 23:35
So proof your maintaining Mr. Salamanca! Names and pictures and copy of id-card???
I visited in february about 10 times kaos and dont saw any underage boys and i only saw normal customers.
Dont spread such a shit. So if you never visit the bar again so we can be happy.

If you can not see what is going on, stay home men. I think you are not only blind, you are also stupid. What is for you a normal costumer? By the way german leather short boy, the shit spreader are you, because you let the people believe there is nothing wrong with the Kaos. Some gays playing with their life and their furure. Allegations are enough for jail you the next 10 new years days or more. So you can read Thai Language, very good men. Or you must ask some herassing Mama Sun, how old is the Boy? Thailand not wait for people like you! Gosh!!!!

July 3rd, 2007, 00:53
I'm gonna read Harry Potter. It's got to be easier than this.

July 3rd, 2007, 01:24
I dont think your find any underage boys in KAOSnow days.... but Im sure it is good for Publicity to let the masses think there is,

At last LMTU admits that the 'masses' go to Sunee looking for children.

Geezer
July 3rd, 2007, 02:43
I often like to have a lad who is younger but legal, and am exceedingly conscientious about checking ID cards. I occasionally wonder if I havenтАЩt checked more IDs in Sunee plaza than anyone except the police. From reading previous posts I expect someone to shout, тАЬpedophileтАЭ. Well, have at it. The only opinion in which I am interested is that of the boys in brown, and they say 18 is just fine.

Every time I have visited Kaos there have been underage boys. In fact, every time I have visited, including three nights ago, I have checked the ID card of at least one boy who proved to be underage -- not including those who тАЬlostтАЭ their cards.

July 3rd, 2007, 03:00
Thanks catapuss for the informative update -

but you should understand that just becuase the Monk ask's for the 'whole' picture, (& the bars missed from LMTU report also), of how sunee is doing in the low season, doesnt mean that i necessary prefer freqenting such bars as apposed to others.....

I would say that in some way i am intreguid by the sunee area as to how fickle the bars/resturants/hotels can change/be built - quite astonishing

I feel that i should like to therefore add at this point that you will also find me in BT bars on many accassions, & if your up late enough, i will be in Maya & X-zyte too, obviously the bs i take in here need to be at least 20 YR OLD...

Dboy
July 3rd, 2007, 03:11
At last LMTU admits that the 'masses' go to Sunee looking for children.

Don't think I've ever seen "masses" of anyone in Sunee. It's an expat area. The masses go to Boyztown. Reports of children running all over Sunee are greatly exaggerated.
I've seen the boys sniffing glue from plastic bags, and the obviously underage boys sitting on motorbikes in Sunee, but really its not that bad. There are other areas
in Pattaya (guess I won't say where), where there's far more going on. Just enjoy Sunee and quit bitching and whining. If you want your world safe, pretty, and boring, then go back to farangland.

btw lmtu:
Thanks for the report on the latest goings-on in the Sunee area. Why no info on that new italian place next to Crazy Dragon? Check it out. They have a new menu, good food.


Dboy

andrewcraig
July 3rd, 2007, 03:17
I dont mind saying I was in the Hotel business, oh I forgot to say I owned it lol

Then you will not mind confirming what you sold it for. The figure mentioned a lot is 800,000 baht not euros.

Was that your ex partner that was in Pattaya was it last year or the year before? Nice chap.

Lunchtime O'Booze
July 3rd, 2007, 08:17
luv your work Salamancar !!

alas it's true-every word I write is crap. :crybaby:

July 3rd, 2007, 08:59
Seems to offend is more easy to you Mr. Salamanca than to proof your shit you tell about some bars? I also really believe that you are a "new member". Just visiting thailand over 20 years and my friends always waiting for me but i doubt somebody is waiting for you.

July 3rd, 2007, 09:45
I'm gonna read Harry Potter. It's got to be easier than this.

I think Salamanca is trying to challenge LMTU to a bad spelling/grandma' duel.

Its all too much for me.

the horror, the horror....

July 3rd, 2007, 13:15
this web site goes out to about 100,000 people a month



What kind of drugs are you on? Can I have some?

July 3rd, 2007, 18:39
Seems to offend is more easy to you Mr. Salamanca than to proof your shit you tell about some bars? I also really believe that you are a "new member". Just visiting thailand over 20 years and my friends always waiting for me but i doubt somebody is waiting for you.

YOU JUST MISSED THE 20 YEAR JAIL SENTENCE. Yeah, I think the kids waiting always for your money. I don't need to proof my shit, because it is fact. Oh, I forget you can't read Newspapers!

July 3rd, 2007, 19:16
Why do most threads evolve into a name calling contest between a couple posters? Its like we're back in kindergarden trying to understand what is written and why it has nothing to do with the original post. I suspect in this case one poster of old is using a new name and just trying play his usual games. The moderator should step in an delete the post when it evolves into one such as this.

July 3rd, 2007, 19:32
while tons and tons of writing attacking or defending sunee, etc--but from one who has spent 4-6 months a year here for going on 20 years, it is obvious and well know to all that sunee has some bars that employ underage boys--kaos happens to be one of them--i have not been there in many years, but some friends have, regardless of the warnings I give them, and report back that there are many obviously underage boys working. A year ago I did a quick tour of sunee one night with some friends from out of town and it was still a shocker at what appeared to be the large amt of underage boys workingin the bars--we all know that there is selective enforement for various reasons that have all been covered many times before,, but to visit any of the bars there and deny that it exists because as a farang you cannot offer "proof"--just read about the raids in the past year and see what bars were impacted--it is usually those who rush to defend sunee that love the underage boys and try to defend what they are doing. If you ask many boys how old they are, they know to tell you 18 or 19 (and even if they say 18 and in their minds they are telling you the truth, you should understand that most Thais will quote their age based on what it will be at the next birthday--so for the 17 yr old, once he has hit his 17th birthday, he will most likely answer 18 when asked how old he is. But, in the eyes of the law, he is 17 and jailbait!

Obviously, this problem is not only Sunee's--I have seen some very young looking lads in B-town bars as well. If asked, I have been told they are 18, but if you ask the lad, they will sometimes admit they are 17. Anyone been to Gentleman's Club lately?

Lunchtime O'Booze
July 3rd, 2007, 21:21
..."and even if they say 18 and in their minds they are telling you the truth, "

it works for me. I was 18 for about 10 years and I've been 39 for 15.

July 3rd, 2007, 21:41
Seems i must go down to your level in the language salamancha-i am every year 3-6 times in thailand and never have had problems because i obey the thai law always. I have never been interested in kids or underage boys. The only shithole was kboys in sunee. Your facts are about kaos and you still have not proofed anything. Ok i can also : i know 100% a monkey is always looking out of your arsehole and crying for freedom-you are yourself a gosh
shut the fuck up and ..............

July 3rd, 2007, 21:43
i obey the thai law always.

Perhaps you were not aware that prostution is illegal in Thailand?

July 3rd, 2007, 21:48
i obey the thai law always.

Perhaps you were not aware that prostution is illegal in Thailand?

Have you ever seen me paying for sex? I know it is illegal but ask the other millions of (sex)tourists. Who cares about?

July 3rd, 2007, 21:50
i obey the thai law always.

Perhaps you were not aware that prostution is illegal in Thailand?

Have you ever seen me paying for sex? I know it is illegal but ask the other millions of (sex)tourists. Who cares about?

How silly of me. The money you gave to the boy was for his companionship -- right? He genuinely liked you and let you fuck him for free.