Good news, I hope (The Witch is Dead)

Jerry Falwell goes to meet his virgins (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070515/ap_on_re_us/jerry_falwell)
No crocodile tears from me ...

It will be very interesting to see which politicians go to his funeral. Bush owes people like him his presidency.

Will McCain go?
Guiliani?
Romney?

This man was a force of hate and evil in the world.
His death is to be celebrated much as we would celebrate the death of Osama Bin Laden.

http://danielking.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/christiantaliban.jpg

His death is to be celebrated much as we would celebrate the death of Osama Bin LadenI'm sure you're in the majority, returning like for like as how they feel about you. That makes you just as morally corrupt as they are

His death is to be celebrated much as we would celebrate the death of Osama Bin LadenI'm sure you're in the majority, returning like for like as how they feel about you. That makes you just as morally corrupt as they are
Would that be the Moral Majority? Are you an American? Are you aware of this blackguard's deeds and words?
I know it sounds unseemly to celebrate any death. But, let me ask you, is there any person so evil that you would do so? If so, is it that you think he wasn't evil enough? OK. I think he was evil enough.

President Carter to Jerry Falwell: GO TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me remind you:


I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say "you helped this happen." This being the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

The villain also stated many times that Aids is God's punishment for homosexuals, fanning the flame of anti-gay hate crimes and murders in America. His power base also was vital to get George Bush elected, who as we know has turned out to be the worse president in American history.

JERRY FALWELL

May you now find your just reward.

I expect there's going to be a BIG PARTY tonight in the CASTRO in San Francisco!
http://pabloonpolitics.com/images/falwell2.jpg

... to turn the other cheek - it's the Christian way, after all. No doubt George can come up with a Buddhist alternative

... to turn the other cheek - it's the Christian way, after all. No doubt George can come up with a Buddhist alternative

Not all Christians think like you. Not to mention not all of us are Christians.

"In a very Christian way, as far as IтАЩm concerned, he can go to hell."

US President Jimmy Carter - (Speaking of Reverend Jerry Falwell)

[Jetsam]

Ah... come on , he was an angel compared to Fred Phelps

R.I.H. Jerry

[Smiles]

Good news, I hope (The Witch is Dead
(Falwell): The Christain Taliban
There is something thoroughly indecent (almost unmanly ~ in an odd way ... the closeted schoolyard bully finally getting his last cheap licks?) about crowing over anyone's death simply because of their opposing views, or ~ in this case ~ their unfathomable politics.

Makes me hope very much not to ever run into these two gents' company by mistake or coincidence. I have always felt that uncomfortable way about Jingthing (and his ranting on this one does not surprise). But Mr jaafarabutarab does surprise.

Cheers ...

Not to mention not all of us are ChristiansNeither am I, but I'm a fellow-traveler. In your case it's very clear you're not a Christian - "By their fruits you will know them" - Matthew 7:16. He's dead. There is no life after death, no cycle of re-birth where his karma will catch up with him. So your hatred and bile just turn back on you, since they have no other target, and corrupt you like acid rain. And while he was alive (as Osama bin Laden probably is) then there's the chance for redemption and forgiveness. Either way, the only correct behavior towards our fellow human beings is compassion, and everything else falls short of what we should be

Fellow Traveler - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_traveller

[Bob]

Now that he has passed on to the moral majority mobile home park in the sky, may he rest in peace.

As concerns his politics and moral rantings during his life, he was a sack of shit.

[rincondog]

The Rev was a real nut case. He attacked the tele tubbies because Tinky Winky was a homosexual. I think the Rev had his own issues, probably nothing but a big perv.

[Aunty]

He's dead. There is no life after death, no cycle of re-birth where his karma will catch up with him. So your hatred and bile just turn back on you, since they have no other target, and corrupt you like acid rain. And while he was alive (as Osama bin Laden probably is) then there's the chance for redemption and forgiveness. Either way, the only correct behavior towards our fellow human beings is compassion, and everything else falls short of what we should be

Fellow Traveler - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_traveller

What's this? Geeze you really are FULL OF IT.

Teaching the things we most need to learn again, I see, Beryl.

Remind me would ya, what do they say about those spots on the leopard?

These are my people:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... PRFS85.DTL (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/15/BAGGDPRFS85.DTL)

[Dboy]

I'll register myself as a Falwell hater. In a way I'm happy that soi dog is dead..BUT he was very useful to have around as a public example of what christianism is all about. It's a very hateful religion that speaks of peace but brings only a sword. Thinking people world-wide have already abandoned monotheism and exchanged it for rationality.


Dboy

[quote=The Thoughts of jaafarabutarab]Good news, I hope (The Witch is Dead
(Falwell): The Christain Taliban
There is something thoroughly indecent (almost unmanly ~ in an odd way ... the closeted schoolyard bully finally getting his last cheap licks?) about crowing over anyone's death simply because of their opposing views, or ~ in this case ~ their unfathomable politics.

Makes me hope very much not to ever run into these two gents' company by mistake or coincidence. I have always felt that uncomfortable way about Jingthing (and his ranting on this one does not surprise). But Mr jaafarabutarab does surprise.

Cheers ...[/quote:1ov0wpy4]
Let me ask you, are you an American and did you live through the period of Falwell's greatest power?

Would you rejoice at the death of Hitler?

Would you rejoice at the death of Pol Pot?

Now, Falwell wasn't as bad as those guys, but he was very bad. This is about much more than a mere political opponent. I personally would not care about the death of people like Bob Dole or Ronald Reagan either way.

This man led of mass movement to try to make my beloved home country a theocracy based on radical right wing Christian fundamentalism. (Not only tried, but succeeded to a limited and increasing degree.) The type of fundamentalism that ultimately leads to the murders of homosexuals and other "undesirables." Every time a teen boy in America beats up or murders a faggot they get support by the likes of Jerry Falwell and during his time he was the leader of this evil movement. Without using hatred of homosexuals as a money raising tactic, he would have gotten nowhere. It should not be any surprise that millions of American homosexuals are indeed pleased at the death of their mortal enemy. I am not a saint. I don't remember feeling this way about the death of anyone, but I feel it about the death of this scumbucket, and I am not ashamed about it. Perhaps, you are a better man, but at least I am human and I am honest about it.

I prefer to turn the other cheek - it's the Christian way, after all.

Is, "Turn the other cheek," what you tell your...face sitters?... When one side of your face gets tired?...tireder...tiredest!


All this fuss about old Miss Foulwell! The poor Mullah Abdulah, who also...'met it'...this week must feel left out...
but he has his virgins to cheer him up. Sure he has.

I wonder how many virgins Mullahdulah has rounded up so far?... And does everyone get 72 virgins? Each?
Or are there only 72 virgins in all of heaven and everyone shares--Which makes far more sense.
I mean, Damn!... There's always a catch to everything: all I heard was you'd get 72 virgins--NOT 72 all to yourself.
On the other hand; maybe there are only a very few men in heaven. And maybe the 72 virgins all look, etc. like Mother Theresa?... Seventy-two would seem more than enough to go around! And seems reasonable there'd be so few men in heaven: everyone else went to the fun place: where sluts go when they die. (No, not Pattaya!)
And consider this: If there are no sluts in heaven...well...someone sure doesn't understand the concept! (Of heaven.)

You're SAD that Jerry Falwell died?To whom is this question addressed? Me? I haven't commented at all about Falwell's death, merely the reaction to his death. They are two very different things - even in far-off Chiang Mai

[Smiles]

You're SAD that Jerry Falwell died?" ... To whom is this question addressed? ... "
Perhaps to me.
Jaafarabutarab, turning my remarks above ~ regarding the childish and mean-spirited cackling over his death ~ around and on it's head and then somehow interpreting them to suggest I am expressing some kind of support for Falwell's life work, says far more about yourself and your mindset than anything I could write on this Board.

Jingthing's pack of hoary old platitudes of course requires even less response: the 'fanatique' wiggling furiously to appear calm, in the face of a previous public diatribe.

Cheers ...

I am an atheist. I rely on my reason.Atheism does not rely on reason. It is a belief system, just like theism. The only intellectually honest approach is agnosticism. I don't know. On the balance of probabilities there is no God, and the likelihood that any religion is "true" is infinitely small. I'm not so arrogant about my beliefs that I'm prepared to state anything with certainty - hence my statement "Judaism, Christianity and Islam are the Axis of Evil". They do believe in themselves, to the exclusion of others. My scepticism doesn't preclude an understanding of the accumulation of understanding about the human condition among the vast detritus of improbabilities those (and other formal religions) promote. The old "throwing out the baby with the bathwater" aphorism applies here as elsewhere

You are not a person who relies on his reason. Your posts are full of logical fallacies (your famous one about the Holocaust being directly caused by the Enlightenment, for example). You made an extremely silly and immediately disprovable statement in a recent post about Thais not being homophobic. Your atheism, like Judaism, Christianity and Islam - and for precisely the same reasons - is part of the Axis of Evil

[Smiles]

For those who love smilies ...


" ... Your atheism ... is part of the Axis of Evil ... "

Pardon for making light of a serious observation Mr Homintern, but :blackeye: :bom: :bom: :bounce: :drunken: :cyclops: :compress: :cyclopsani:

Cheers ...

[Bob]

Editorial cartoon today by Cardow (The Ottawa Citizen):

[Aunty]

Atheism does not rely on reason. It is a belief system, just like theism. The only intellectually honest approach is agnosticism. I don't know. On the balance of probabilities there is no God, and the likelihood that any religion is "true" is infinitely small. I'm not so arrogant about my beliefs that I'm prepared to state anything with certainty - hence my statement "Judaism, Christianity and Islam are the Axis of Evil". They do believe in themselves, to the exclusion of others. My scepticism doesn't preclude an understanding of the accumulation of understanding about the human condition among the vast detritus of improbabilities those (and other formal religions) promote. The old "throwing out the baby with the bathwater" aphorism applies here as elsewhere

You are not a person who relies on his reason. Your posts are full of logical fallacies (your famous one about the Holocaust being directly caused by the Enlightenment, for example). You made an extremely silly and immediately disprovable statement in a recent post about Thais not being homophobic. Your atheism, like Judaism, Christianity and Islam - and for precisely the same reasons - is part of the Axis of Evil

Christ you're thick. I just didn't realise how thick.

... so I don't get to read what my niece Tourette is writing these days, but even she, toiling away in her drug-industry-funded laboratory where her brain's comfort level (other single-cell organisms) enables her to gain some simple pleasures dissecting amoebae, knows that acid rain is a scientific phenomenon that has nothing to do with being a "Greenie". Equally taking a position that a Christian might take (and quoting from the Bible to do so) doesn't make anyone a Christian. As my dear old sparring partner Hedda was often reminded "even the Devil can cite scripture for his purpose" ( http://history.enotes.com/famous-quotes ... is-purpose (http://history.enotes.com/famous-quotes/the-devil-can-cite-scripture-for-his-purpose) ). Personally I think the God of Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed is a bloodthirsty tyrant who is simply unworthy on ethical grounds (even if he exists, which is improbable) of our regard, let alone worship. My gay bishop cousin Cedric (not to be confused with the Hun using the same name who posts here), when not frequenting the leather bars of Wolverhampton, tries to persuade me that I am really still an Anglican at heart, since they don't actually have to believe in anything. Everybody's favourite theologian these days is Canon Don Cupitt, an Anglican and (technically) an agnostic - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Faith

Jaafarabutarab on the other hand is what we might call a fundamentalist. His atheism assumes that words have only a literal meaning, without subtlety or nuance, and certainly no recognition of irony or even simile. In fact (and here's another gift for Smiles) Jaafarabutarab is the Jerry Falwell of atheism

This man was a force of hate and evil in the world.
His death is to be celebrated much as we would celebrate the death of Osama Bin Laden.


You wish creep, I just love the American wet dream of catching and killing Osama, does it get you up in the morning to suck on some Starfucks Mocha grande?

Thought you might like to read some of the gems from the dead scum bucket Falwell:


"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."

"The abortionists have got to bear some burden for [the attacks of Sept. 11] because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.'"

"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."

"Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions."

"I listen to feminists and all these radical gals -- most of them are failures. They've blown it. Some of them have been married, but they married some Casper Milquetoast who asked permission to go to the bathroom. These women just need a man in the house. That's all they need. Most of the feminists need a man to tell them what time of day it is and to lead them home. And they blew it and they're mad at all men. Feminists hate men. They're sexist. They hate men -- that's their problem."

"When you have a godly husband, a godly wife, children who respect their parents and who are loved by their parents, who provide for those children their physical and spiritual and material needs, lovingly, you have the ideal unit."

"The ACLU is to Christians what the American Nazi party is to Jews."

"I am saying pornography hurts anyone who reads it -- garbage in, garbage out."

"I am such a strong admirer and supporter of George W. Bush that if he suggested eliminating the income tax or doubling it, I would vote yes on first blush."

"I believe that global warming is a myth. And so, therefore, I have no conscience problems at all and I'm going to buy a Suburban next time."

"It is God's planet -- and he's taking care of it. And I don't believe that anything we do will raise or lower the temperature one point."

"I truly cannot imagine men with men, women with women, doing what they were not physically created to do, without abnormal stress and misbehavior."

"It appears that America's anti-Biblical feminist movement is at last dying, thank God, and is possibly being replaced by a Christ-centered men's movement which may become the foundation for a desperately needed national spiritual awakening."

"There's been a concerted effort to steal Christmas."

"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!"

"The First Amendment is not without limits."

"Someone must not be afraid to say, 'moral perversion is wrong.' If we do not act now, homosexuals will 'own' America! If you and I do not speak up now, this homosexual steamroller will literally crush all decent men, women, and children who get in its way ... and our nation will pay a terrible price!"

"If he's going to be the counterfeit of Christ, [the Antichrist] has to be Jewish. The only thing we know is he must be male and Jewish."

"The argument that making contraceptives available to young people would prevent teen pregnancies is ridiculous. That's like offering a cookbook as a cure to people who are trying to lose weight."

"The whole global warming thing is created to destroy America's free enterprise system and our economic stability."

"You'll be riding along in an automobile. You'll be the driver perhaps. You're a Christian. There'll be several people in the automobile with you, maybe someone who is not a Christian. When the trumpet sounds you and the other born-again believers in that automobile will be instantly caught away -- you will disappear, leaving behind only your clothes and physical things that cannot inherit eternal life. That unsaved person or persons in the automobile will suddenly be startled to find the car suddenly somewhere crashes. ... Other cars on the highway driven by believers will suddenly be out of control and stark pandemonium will occur on ... every highway in the world where Christians are caught away from the drivers wheel." (from Falwell's pamphlet "Nuclear War and the Second Coming of Christ")

"God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve."

"You know when I see somebody burning the flag, I'm a Baptist preacher I'm not a Mennonite, I feel it's my obligation to whip him. In the name of the Lord, of course. I feel it's my obligation to whip him, and if I can't do it then I look up some of my athletes to help me. But, as long as at 72 I can handle most of the jobs I do it myself, and I don't think it's un-spiritual. When I, when I, when I hear somebody talking about our military and ridiculing and saying terrible things about our President, I'm thinking you know just a little bit of that and I believe the Lord would forgive me if I popped him."

"The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etcetera."

"The National Organization for Women (NOW) is the National Order of Witches."

"God doesn't listen to Jews."

"Tinky Winky is gay."

[Smiles]

"The National Organization for Women (NOW) is the National Order of Witches."
I rather like that one :bom:
Most of the rest of the list is unreadable: Falwell was not exactly Santayana.

Cheers ...

The man killed 3,000 innocent people.A typical irrational comment from a "rational" man. Many Americans financed the IRA who in turn killed hundreds if not thousands of civilians. Not a single one of those Americans has ever been put on trial; equally none of them have been accused of mass-murder, since it simply isn't true that they killed anyone. Hitler did not kill 6m innocent people in concentration camps - he facilitated it. In a court of law (even an American one), Osama bin Laden is guilty of conspiracy to murder - but since that satisfies no-one a new crime has been made up called "terrorism", just as "war crimes" were made up to cover the Nazi killings. If you want to argue using your emotions, please go ahead, but none of us are fooled that that is a rational way to argue

Thought you might like to read some of the gems from the dead scum bucket Falwell:



First off, not to be too picky Jingthing, but you should have credited SF Chronicle columnist Mark Morford for the above quotes. Not just to be correct, but this guy is really hilarious and deserves a much broader circulation. see www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford/archive/ (http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford/archive/)

My take on Fallwell was he was the perfect man at the perfect time for what he represented - conservative puritanism/christianity with a hint of millenialism. Remember when Reagan hooked up with the Religious Right things were pretty gloomy in America and it did seem to a lot of people that the USSR, the Arabs and the Japanese were about to take over and destroy our "way of life". There was also an undercurrent against all the gains of the "Women's Movement" and especially the fallout from years of desegregation and the end of "Jim Crow" in the US (that was the aparathied-type system in the US for those of you not familiar).
Falwell's answer was "Come back to 'God' and tradtional "American Values" and it played quite well in many quarters of society here.
Of course the Millenium came and went and Jesus never showed up. The USSR is finished. Japan is broke. Y2k was a bust. SARS, Bird Flu, West Nile Virus and even AIDS has not created millions of zombies waiting to eat us all up.
The only thing the Millenialists have left is The Terrorists (and less and less people believe in that boogeyman anymore) and Global Warming, which is a Left Wing cause.
George Bush is the last of the Falwell acolytes and he's going down in ignonimity.

Falwell's passing, ironically, is coinciding with the passing of his legacy.

So it's a big American wet dream to catch Osama Bin Laden?

Pardon my French, but where the fuck are you coming from, Cedric? The man killed 3,000 innocent people. They were not all Americans, Cedric. As I recall, about 200 Brits died on 9/11. Many Muslims died as well.



http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/no_no.gif Not true jaafarabutarab, not true. It's about time that both you and a lot of other Americans realised, that it was not Osama that was responsible for the 9/11 tragedy, but that it was a tragedy that was caused as the result of an inside job. Osama is as much guilty of this crime, as Saddam was for that of having WOMD.

No jaafarabutarab and before you say it, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I would be more than happy to provide you with some good documentary evidence as to my claim. However, it would be up to you as to whether you wanted to take your head out of the sand long enough, in which to have the time required that would be necesary in which to read it.


G.

Of course the Millenium came and went and Jesus never showed up.

It's not that I didn't show up, I was just hanging out at Jim Jimmy James and lost track of time. Before I knew it, this fat bastard Jerry Falwell came along and said some embarassing things while I was busy offing #17...a very nice boy by the way. But now I have smited teh anti-tinky winky crackpot and he will no longer be a burden on the people of Earth.

Jesus

[Bob]

Not true jaafarabutarab, not true. It's about time that both you and a lot of other Americans realised, that it was not Osama that was responsible for the 9/11 tragedy, but that it was a tragedy that was caused as the result of an inside job.

Oh Georgie, Georgie. You're fairly new to this board and I was willing to give you a chance; however, now that I realize that your idea of heavy/serious reading is the National Enquirer, you shall be forever labeled a crackpot in my book.
Let's see......the moon landing was a fake, there were 16 other guys shooting from the grassy knoll, large and goofy-eyed aliens were at Roswell, and, of course, Tinky Winky was as limp-wristed as they come. What I reallly want to know, however, is whether the woman really gave birth to the wolf boy and, if you should know (but don't tell Virginia), is there really a Santa Claus and is he gay too?

Thank you, one and all. This thread has been most amusing ... and really, that's all one can ask. It was reported that the actor John Le Mesurier's dying words were "It's all been very lovely". It's what I think about this thread. They won't be my dying words, I hope - a bit hard to get out with my tongue up some boy's arse, which as many posters recall, is part of my preferred mode of death

Not true jaafarabutarab, not true. It's about time that both you and a lot of other Americans realised, that it was not Osama that was responsible for the 9/11 tragedy, but that it was a tragedy that was caused as the result of an inside job.

Oh Georgie, Georgie. You're fairly new to this board and I was willing to give you a chance; however, now that I realize that your idea of heavy/serious reading is the National Enquirer, you shall be forever labeled a crackpot in my book.
Let's see......the moon landing was a fake, there were 16 other guys shooting from the grassy knoll, large and goofy-eyed aliens were at Roswell, and, of course, Tinky Winky was as limp-wristed as they come. What I reallly want to know, however, is whether the woman really gave birth to the wolf boy and, if you should know (but don't tell Virginia), is there really a Santa Claus and is he gay too?

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/no_no-1.gif Oh Bobby Bobby, you obviously missed the part in my post where I said: No jaafarabutarab and before you say it, I am not a conspiracy theorist. For the record Bob, I have also never read the National Enquirer.

I don't know about 16 other guys on the the grassy knoll, but having personally visited the Texas Book Depository in Dallas, I can say that the way everything is set up there, it is 100 per cent accurate as far as the day the shooting of Kennedy goes; including the fact that Oswald is not there. I am unable to comment on Tinky Winky however, as I do not have any information about him whatsoever, as I was never as big fan as you quite obviously seem to be.

Furthermore, I am extremely skeptical about aliens being at Roswell, but do remain open minded as to whether or not Virginia gave birth to the Woolf Boy. However, one thing I am 100 per cent certain on is: There is definitely a Santa and dressing in the way that he does, how could he not be gay? http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u152/GeorgeThai/biglaugh.gif


Choc Dee Bob,


G.

There is definitely a Santa and dressing in the way that he does, how could he not be gay?

Santa is a fat old farang who invites little boys to sit on his lap in return for gifts. So do the fat old whities in Sunnee Plaza. It's Christmas all year round in Sunnee!

George believes that 9/11 was an inside job. But he denies the label of "conspiracy theorist."

Ho ho ho. Loser nutjob, is what George is.

What are you still doing here? Didn't you have a hissy fit and leave?

I now have returnd

Lucky us...

George believes that 9/11 was an inside job. But he denies the label of "conspiracy theorist."

Ho ho ho. Loser nutjob, is what George is.

The only looser nutjob, is you jaafa, if you won't even accept the possibilty of it being an inside job. I suppose it is also a conspiracy theory, that whilst not one single American was allowed to fly, there were several planes in American air space flying members of Bin Ladens family out of the States and back to Saudi?

G.

[Wesley]

I can't imagine wishing anyone would go to hell if there is one or that they would die or relish in their death. It makes you no better than they were

Wesley

It makes you no better than they wereSo you think some people are better, morally superior, or whatever than others? I've always believed in "There but for the grace of god go I", but I also happen to believe in humility and thinking that perhaps I might be wrong, concepts a million miles away from many Forum posters

[Wesley]

no, you have it all wrong, I wish no bad thing happens to anyone not my enemy or my friend. I hope I am at peace with all men, if they agree with me great, if not I still wish them no bad thing to happen to them either here or in the next world to come. For all that is with in me I wish to be at peace with all men. That is neither humble nor accurate in some circles. however, if some bad should happen to you I would not relish in The thought that you disagreed with me. I would hope that if there is an after life of some sorts, you will be at peace. I simply wish no harm to come to any man great or small. That is neither humble nor great but it is the way I feel about all living things, be they human or you.

Wesley