cosmetic surgery

[thrillbill]

OK, this forum seems to have answers/ solutions to everything. Question: Though I stay fit and watch what I eat, I have no control over the worry lines on my forehead, and sagging face. --So I am interested in having some work done by a plastic surgeon. Has anyone out there had it done??? How painful is it? How many weeks does it take to get back to "normal"? Any doctors/ hospitals in BKK or in the area that is known to do good work? (no, I don't want breast inplants!) :colors:
Thanks.

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

botox injects to iron out wrinkles are like a tiny pin prick..

If you are having a face lift you won't feel a thing as your'e out like a light and afterward there is minimal pain..just swelling that takes a while to go down. The full effects won't be seen until everything settles down in about 6 months.

You can get a half-face lift or if you have turkey neck you can neck lifts which is only a recent thing and the results are great...or you can have lipo underneath your chin if there is fat there.

None of this is painful and you only need a few days to get out and about again..even if you have your eyes done the stitches are so tiny and usually in a normal crease no-one would notice..especially if your wear dark glasses.

The only very painful thing...is lipo suction on the stomach and that feels like having gone a few rounds with Mohamed Ali...but you wear a special corset to hold it all together but it's pretty painful for about 6 weeks. No problem..they'll give you endones and life looks even better if you take a few.

Bumrungrad is great..you can get good package deals there and then spend a week in Pattaya recovering.

All of this knowledge is from personal experience...you should have seen me 20 years ago..I looked like Fatty Arbuckle..now I get mistaken for Arnold Schwarzenegger..( yes that's right..I've got Arnie's toupee as well but no-one could ever pick it !!).

with all of the above! Just come to Pattaya. Guarantee you will be one of the youngest, handsomest, and thinnest of the bunch. :idea:

Without doubt the best is the guy at The Bumrungrad in Bangkok. He is the most expensive. His experience in Harley Street London and California is top drawer.
http://www.bumrungrad.com/

Most hospitals offer plastic surgery but there is one, The Yanhee, that specializes though it is not as grand as the Bumrungrad it is 1/3 to 1/2 cheaper.
http://www.yanhee.net/Others/Bangkokinformation.html

From people that I know who have had face procedures it is not painful but takes some months to settle down afterwards.

The bummer is that in most cases your friends will not notice the difference. Thai boys don't care much how you look. You are doing this for yourself and nothing wrong with that.

botox injects to iron out wrinkles are like a tiny pin prick..
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The only very painful thing...is lipo suction on the stomach and that feels like having gone a few rounds with Mohamed Ali...but you wear a special corset to hold it all together but it's pretty painful for about 6 weeks. No problem..they'll give you endones and life looks even better if you take a few.
That's reassuring abot the botox injections. A friend of mine had botox done once at Apex in Bangkok, and said each injection was excruciatingly painful and that the doctor cackled: "There is no beauty without pain!" My friend said she missed the ability to look upward without tilting her head back. <g>

OMG, are you serious? Lipo is painful for 6 weeks???

I've not considered cosmetic improvements in the past, but I know myself well enough to "never say never," so thanks for the first-hand feedback.

Never forget the Essex face lift - cheap, non-invasive. Grow your hair long and tie it back tightly in a pony tail. You look like a prat, but a wrinkle free prat.

Never forget the Essex face lift - cheap, non-invasive. Grow your hair long and tie it back tightly in a pony tail. You look like a prat, but a wrinkle free prat.I was thinking that O'Booze's description of Botox injections could be applied to some of our posters - little pricks :bounce:

Never forget the Essex face lift - cheap, non-invasive. Grow your hair long and tie it back tightly in a pony tail. You look like a prat, but a wrinkle free prat.I was thinking that O'Booze's description of Botox injections could be applied to some of our posters - little pricks :bounce:

And you will be the first in line :colors:

- little pricksAnd you will be the first in line :colors:I'm well beyond the little prick stage - I'm a bald, fat, old cunt

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

"bald fat old cunts" can be fixed...there is a doctor at Bumrungrad who specializes in vagina improvements !

but I too looked like bald fat old cunt before...now I just look like a young cunt.

Wowpow is sort of right..your friends will just think you are looking "very healthy" which means that they really know you have had a face lift...but they say the best plastic surgery should make you look 10 years younger and refreshed..and mentally you will feel good so you project a better aura...and what ,with a box of Viagra the world is your oyster.

you can still look like a great corpse !!

the pain from the stomach lipo is bearable...just annoying..!!!

what are you ?..a man or a wimp !!..come on you know your'e dying to have it done..go for it..

[Up2U]

Without doubt the best is the guy at The Bumrungrad in Bangkok. He is the most expensive. His experience in Harley Street London and California is top drawer.
http://www.bumrungrad.com/


And his name is, please?

every doctor has his/her own specialty. No one doctor can be good at all procedures. You need to spend some time to do research and consult doctors.

every doctor has his/her own specialty. No one doctor can be good at all procedures. You need to spend some time to do research and consult doctors.

Does your statement apply to cosmetic surgeons also?


G.

[thrillbill]

Thanks to those who took time to give me some information (but what is the name of the doc in BKK?). I unfortunately have a poker face forehead (due to my Irish/German background) and have tried Botox... It DOES make a difference but have to have it done 3 times a year. I hope I get enought balls to just have my forehead stretched or whatever you call it!
Unfortunately in our Western society, trying to look young is important when applying for a job or being out and about.

I hope I get enought balls to just have my forehead stretched or whatever you call it!



Don't stretch it too much or your balls will be on your forehead! :diabloanifire:

If his balls are all the way up there on his forehead then he must be a dick head as well

:hlp:

... the first step I would do if I had wrinkles is to have the "botox" treatment (there is an alternative to botox now and it is better, I don't know what it is called, but the same process) - it is done over a period of weeks and eventually a lot of the fine lines disappear. At one time, you had to have them redone after about 3 months, but the treatment today is probably around 12 months before it needs re-doing. Having this type of treatment, at least if you are not pleased with it you can stop having it and eventually the wrinkles will come back (sounds awful doesnt it) - but it is gradual.

The alternative is a face lift - now we are talking no turning back here - once done then its forever - as Michael Jackson knows.

The alternative is a face lift - now we are talking no turning back here - once done then its forever - as Michael Jackson knows.I've aways thought Michael Jackson was trying to pass himself off as Liz Taylor

Please consider growing old gracefully as a healthy alternative to surgery. No surgery wont make you look younger, it will make you look like you have had surgery. Just keep various images in your mind, all those Hollywood stars that have gone under the knife, has it really helped them, has it fooled anyone even themselves? No. We just end up ogling them like some freak show. Like Joan Rivers, she doesn't even look like Joan Rivers anymore, more like a lacquered blow up doll, even her hair looks like it is a product of some cottage industry in the Philippines. And remember even with all the surgery their pictures are airbrushed into oblivion and we men do not wear make up, all the time, so there is no hiding the painful truth. Every time you go for a refreshing morning swim, you'll look less like Venus arising and more like the crap the pool-boy forgot to vacuum up of the bottom of the pool. People may actually be put off their toast and marmelade.

Wrinkles are good, not that I have any yet, but they give a person character and I love them, it attracts me to to a person,even a young person with wrinkles looks so sexy I immediately in love, especially if they are blonde and have blue eyes. A face is a treasure, its your identity your valuable and irreplaceable map of life. Wipe it all away and you look like a blank piece of paper, how interesting is that?

Leave plastic surgery to those that need it, like train smash victims, and begin to respect yourself.

Cedric,


You make a good and very valid point.

Also, if Michael Wacko Jacko, who was stunningly handsome before, can't make it work with massive money and access to the best surgeons in the World, how can we hope to???

OR, is it a case that, he along with many others, went too far!

I certainly agree, the victims of accidents, war, born disfigurements are the people this kind of surgery benefits the most.

Great, I won't waste my money on that.

[Smiles]

" ... Michael Wacko Jacko, who was stunningly handsome before ... "
He was that: Michael Jackson (c. 1976-1979 era)

http://www.photodump.com/direct/sawatdee/Jacksonsera10.jpg

Cheers ...

Ouch!

[Impulse]

Wish I had a picture to post,but what about Micky Rourk? I know he was a boxer as well as an actor but he really looks bad now. The problem as we age is that theres not enough bone in the lower face for the skin to cling onto,hence jowels etc. Use sunscreen.

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

look Cedric, Joan Rivers may look like a plastic Barbie doll but at 70-what else should she look like , that Governor General of Australia Dame Edna Everage ??

That picture of Michael Jackson Smiles is after he had plastic surgery and skin whitening..he just didn't know when to stop-even when the tip of his nose fell of.

Why didn't you say you just wanted your forehead stretched thrillbill ?..that's not even a difficult operation..for God's sake man book yourself into Bumrungrad and get it done now...you won't regret it. You'll look like a milion dollars !

Despite what Cedric says.. sometimes you look older than your age due to hereditary features. One of the simplest things you can have done is to have the bags removed from under your eyes and the upper droopy eyelids fixed. It's outpatient, almost no post surgery pain, fast recovery, and can take 10 years off your face. I would never do a full face lift, but at age 48, I had mine done and people are amazed how much more "awake" and "refreshed" I look. I'd do it again in a minute. About $3000 in US, about half or less that price in thailand.

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

just take a look at how I was 3 years ago..even though I was popularly sought out lunch companion around Pattaya..after a few nips and tucks my new look is slightly more pleasing and I feel 20 years younger....

before..
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/jono2007_2007/les20patterson1.jpg

after:
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/jono2007_2007/w146-1l.jpg

look Cedric, Joan Rivers may look like a plastic Barbie doll but at 70-what else should she look like , that Governor General of Australia Dame Edna Everage ??

That picture of Michael Jackson Smiles is after he had plastic surgery and skin whitening..he just didn't know when to stop-even when the tip of his nose fell of.

Why didn't you say you just wanted your forehead stretched thrillbill ?..that's not even a difficult operation..for God's sake man book yourself into Bumrungrad and get it done now...you won't regret it. You'll look like a milion dollars !

Thrillbill leave your lovely forehead alone. Look at Seen Canary, what a wonderful brow that man has, and that drunken Australian whats his name from Gladiator, its manly and sexy and very expressive. If you have it stretched it wont function any more, you won't be able to show disapproval or concern or even raise an eyebrow, you will just have a flat forehead and people will think you are a cabbage. The mask look died in the 80's it's only desperate old tarts that want the altered look.
Joan Rivers for gods sake, who would want to get into bed with that sack of shit. Take off the clothes and the bad wig and you are looking at a 70yrold that looks like it stuck its head in a furnace.

I was devastated when Fay had it done away, she looked so different and boring afterwards and it seriously affected her acting abilities. At least David Bowie decided against it, he was seriously thinking about it for awhile. Some scary monsters out there like Mrs Reagan and oh my god that singer the platinum one who couldn't move her face anymore, she had to sing/drawl through the corner of her mouth at 80, and Tom Jones, who now looks just like Joan Rivers.
Take comfort, the natural look wins hands down every time. See forehead job bellow.

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

""it's only desperate old tarts that want the altered look.'..this is one desperate old tart that now looks like a desperate young tart !!.

I suppose it all depends upon how you look in the first place. You are right ( just a little bit) Cedric..I was disappointed when the wonderfully craggy faced Robert Redford had his face done-he's almost unrecognizable now !.

However I'm going to disappoint you about your hero David Bowie. About 20 years I worked ( yes I used to work !) on a pop video Bowie was making with the wonderful director Mike Mansfield.

It was for that song "Lets Dance" and after a day of takes during which Bowie has to whirl around in a scene...you can image the shock on the crew when the entire top of his head seemed to come off and flew off the stage..yes it's true..David Bowie wears a toupee and has for at least 20 years..All those great quiffs and and different looks Bowie has had over the years..have all been enhanced with a superb hair piece !!

(the film footage was destroyed at Bowie's direction but knowing Mansfield..I'm sure there's still a copy that's rolled out at parties to amuse friends)

from the ears up..all fake Cedric..same same M.Jagger

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t93/jono2007_2007/David20Bowie.jpg

Toupees are generally an uncomfortable, sweaty and necessary part of "show business", it saves the scalp from all the gunk and toxins hair products contain. May I ask what was under Bowies toupee? I was never a great fan, but did see one of his last concerts and along with the audience it all felt like a bit of a stroll down his dusty memory lane. I was particularly unimpressed when he called me a fucker to my face after I never showed much enthusiasm for the "show", must be the age thing, can I help it that he is old enough to be my great grand father? What passion, no wonder he had to have a triple by-pass.
I think he left all the plastic surgery to that weirdo Iman whose face seems to be frozen for all eternity, luckily it set in just that one look (the only look) she is so famous for.

I bumped into Jagger in the lounge at Heathrow and he looks like a lumpin bag lady, it took me awhile to recognise who I was shoving aside to get to the chicken salad, yes he should retire, he has a kind of sour resentment going on, that only looks good on a teenager.

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

I believe it's commonly called "the scalp"..I'm not too sure what else you thought may be there but he wasn't hiding anything unnatural there.

I also saw him about 2 years ago up close and I believe I detected and slight smoothing of the face..he was always thin but there seemed to be far less wrinkles !! He's also finally had his teeth completely re-modeled..he was infamous for having the most disgusting green teeth. (His ex- Angie Bowie once tried to seduce me but that's another story.)

I once lunched with Mick Jagger and found him to be a completely charming gent..that working class stuff is all a pose with him..very Home Counties and Middle Class...he told me he believed that his "worldliness" and mass appeal was because he could openly be friendly which he put down to having an Australian mother !!!..I guess that explains Monty's appeal !

### Jagger also gave me one snippet which I can now tell..he said he wrote the song "Brown Sugar" about a night he spent in a bar in a southern US state and he was in a dilemna because he couldn't chose which to take home...some very sexy French sailors or black hookers. Eventually he took both.

I believe it's commonly called "the scalp"..I'm not too sure what else you thought may be there but he wasn't hiding anything unnatural there.


Just a scalp? No hair on it? Yes I agree about Jagger, yes, it is all a front, the middle England bit, and he did so want a knighthood, sadly, his what must now look like a small shred of "beef jerky" appendage got in the way. Just because he sent his kids to Eaton, don't be fooled into thinking he went there himself, no its just a boorish yob at heart. And those famous lips, well they just keep on pouting but unfortunately these days its no more than flapping labia in the wind.

Well, Darl, Pete Burns (the lead singer from 80's band Dead or Alive) shows that surgery can be a gret success!

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What happened - all those funny photos showing when paul2257 is on my IGNORE list? Why banished to Global I wonder? The mystery of the Moderator mind?

Mai Pen Rai I will resist the surgeon's knife for another year.

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Who is Piet Burns? Must be before my time. Is that wrap around fuel injected lip real? Ouch! It looks sore, or is just trying to get em to move that is causing the problem. He was so sexy au natural with the blue tattoos. The Ronald mc Donald look is a mess.

Yes strange what a moderator will do, and I thought this thread was about Thai surgeons.

The mystery of the Moderator mind?jinks' mind is indeed a mystery. Sometimes a thread veers off topic and gets split into two threads. Other times nothing happens. Threads get moved out of the Thailand Forum (but never back) on the flimsiest of reasons. And then of course there's the mystery of the disappearing thread, the one that jinks himself started, about the redneck sheriff and the tent prison; when challenged jinks claimed that anyone who starts a topic can delete it even if there are threaded responses. Both Smiles and I proved that not to be the case - he had to have done it only because he was Moderator. One rule for the moderators, another for the members. (I'm not saying that's a good or a bad thing, merely that it happens)

From people that I know who have had face procedures it is not painful but takes some months to settle down afterwards.

People you know? Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha!