I love my boyfriend

[bucknaway]

Good for both of you!

http://users.cis.net/sammy/spiral.htm


Oh, I love you more today than yesterday
But not as much as tomorrow
I love you more today than yesterday
But, darling, not as much as tomorrow

[bao-bao]

You didn't mention anything about how he feels about you, but assuming it's the same as you profess here I wish you both

... true willingness to communicate openly

... an enormous amount of patience with each others differences (age, education, culture, religion, goals, etc.)

... a long, happy, healthy and rewarding life.

:love7:

Thanks for giving me the warm fuzzies!! You and your boyfriend deserve the best life can offer!!

American Don

[bigben]

Artist: Jackie Wilson from his "Higher and Higher" CD-Rhino R2 71850

-Words and Music by Gary L. Jackson, Carl Smith, and Raynard Miner

Your love, liftin' me higher
Than I've ever been lifted before
So keep it up, quench my desire
And I'll be at your side forevermore

Now once I was downhearted
Disappointment was my closest friend
But then you came and he soon departed
And you know he never showed his face again

When we sleep together, the warm feeling flow all over us.
It's called spunk, dear :cheese:

I love my boyfriend
He is smart. He is funny. He has a sunny disposition.

He is incredibly handsome, and incredibly friendly.

When we sleep together, the warm feeling flow all over us.

I love him. I have been loving him for almost three years now, and I think I will love him forever.

My God, he is a wonderful boy. I love him.

Um Honey, SO WHAT...............

What a pointless post. Darling, I am gonna puke

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

I love your boyfriend too !!! :cheers:

...and so did all the other punters who purchased his services before you hooked up with him.

Wow! What a lot of sad, bitter and lonely posters. I hope I never reach that point.

By the way, I am saving my pennies for a trip to -- Hawaii, or Italy -- in the next month or so. I hope I will actually be able to take my beloved boy on a trip out of the country.



Him leaving the country is not the problem. The problem is getting him into some place respectable. Why don't you try Hong Kong or Singapore first?

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jaafarabutarab, Shout it from the hills. May your love happiness and joy last forever.

"Words of Love

Hold me close and tell me how you feel
Tell me love is real
Words of love you whisper soft and true
Darling I love you
Let me hear you say
the words I long to gear
Darling when you're near
Words of love you whisper soft and true
Darling I love you"

Beatles

[bao-bao]

jaafarabutarab, Shout it from the hills. May your love happiness and joy last forever.

"Words of Love

Hold me close and tell me how you feel
Tell me love is real
Words of love you whisper soft and true
Darling I love you
Let me hear you say
the words I long to hear
Darling when you're near
Words of love you whisper soft and true
Darling I love you"

Beatles

The Beatles did indeed do a lovely version of "Words of Love" but it's a Buddy Holly song.

"And, if that doesn't work; Smile just because it pisses people off," those you would most like to piss off.
Looks like, one-way-or-the-other, it worked.
Good on you--and your friend too.

It's nice to get his passport decorated with other visas before trying for Europe or America.

Your friend will need a lot more than ASEAN stamps in his passport to get a visa to Europe or (especially) America. Don't get your hopes up.

[Smiles]

" ... since I HAVE obtained an American visa for a Thai national before. Really! Amazing but true! ... "
Please, more information needed here.

It is my understanding (admittedly not experienced) that 'in the end' it is the person applying for the visa who has to approach an Embassy (stark naked in a sense), and to either successfully receive a visa (or be rejected) on his/her own presentation and circumstances. Other parties may present certain evidence or support documents, but in fact cannot do any more than that. If I am incorrect in this ~ and I'd be pleased to be so ~ please explain to me/us how.

For you to say " ... I obtained an American visa ... " for someone else smacks of ~ at the very least ~ exaggerating one's own importance to the process. Could you please explain at greater length how in fact "you" obtained a visa for another person.

Cheers ...

Please, more information needed here.

It is my understanding (admittedly not experienced) that 'in the end' it is the person applying for the visa who has to approach an Embassy (stark naked in a sense), and to either successfully receive a visa (or be rejected) on his/her own presentation and circumstances. Other parties may present certain evidence or support documents, but in fact cannot do any more than that. If I am incorrect in this ~ and I'd be pleased to be so ~ please explain to me/us how.



Eighteen months ago, B/f then age just 18 obtained a tourist visa to visit the UK on his first attempt.

I have dual Thai/British nationality so supplied supporting documents as to his work/residential status/financial status ( his & mine) and showed proof that he had full time employment in Thailand.

As you correctly say, the applicant has to face the interviewers alone and the decision is made on that interview but taking into account any supporting fact. Only the applicant can obtain a visa it will not be granted on his/her behalf to a 'friend'.

The interviews are a little less formal now that most of them are not carried out by British Embassy staff but are farmed out to a specialist agency.

Since the first trip b/f has been able to revisit the UK four times without any problems in obtaining a visa.

I helped by getting my U.S. Senator to write a letter of support to the ConsulateIs that your recommendation - all the Americans here just need to contact their local US Congressman and hey presto? Or did you know the particular US Senator and he applied the personal touch?

Eighteen months ago, B/f then age just 18 obtained a tourist visa to visit the UK on his first attempt.

So how old was he when you first started seeing him, assuming that it must taken sometime for you to get serious about him before you decided to take him to the UK?

I'm afraid another Silom wannabe has just outed himself from the sandbox, or are you him?

[Lunchtime O'Booze]

you have a passing resemblance to that John Mark Karr character..are you perchance related ?

[quote="Naughty But Nice":memvckao]

So how old was he when you first started seeing him, assuming that it must taken sometime for you to get serious about him before you decided to take him to the UK?

I'm afraid another Silom wannabe has just outed himself from the sandbox, or are you him?[/quote:memvckao]

Oh dear I am going to dissapoint you.

Firstly it may be worth you remembering that you should never judge people by your own lack of moral standards.

I first knew b/f when he was 17 & 8 months of age and he started to work for my company.

I first took him out for a drink along with another 30 members of our staff on his 18th birthday and as his work within the company had always been liasing with the UK office and I was due to visit London on business a few months after his birthday I decided to offer him the trip. Things developed from there

Next question?

[TrongpaiExpat]

Next question?

How old are you?

Next question?

How old are you?

Over the legal age :bounce:

and as his work within the company had always been liasing with the UK office and I was due to visit London on business a few months after his birthday I decided to offer him the trip.

Sounds like the lad was a good candidate to obtain a UK visa on his own merit...unlike the type of boys most of the people here hang out with. 6th grade education, former prostitute, no job, no assets, sashay to the interview in hip-hugging fuck-me jeans and a white patent leather belt...no visa. Sorry, guys.

I first knew b/f when he was 17 & 8 months of age and he started to work for my company.You screw the hired help?

He said he knew him then; he didn't say he screwed him then, unless, of course he used the word "knew" in the biblical sense.

He said he knew him then; he didn't say he screwed him then, unless, of course he used the word "knew" in the biblical sense.

I first took him out for a drink along with another 30 members of our staff on his 18th birthday and as his work within the company had always been liasing with the UK office and I was due to visit London on business a few months after his birthday I decided to offer him the trip. Things developed from thereThat still reads like screwing the hired help to me

It will probably help, but it will also definitely help if the Senator can say something positive about the applicant, e.g. "Mr. Puangwongsa was the valedictorian of his high school class, and graduated in third place (GPA). He speaks fluent English and has already been accepted to further his English studies at U.C. Berkeley extension. It seems to me that issuing a student visa to Mr. Puangwongsa would be in the best interests of both Thailand and America, especially since he has already spent four weeks studying in America, and returned to Thailand exactly as planned when that course of studies was complete."This is like drawing teeth. First of all you boast that you got a Thai boy a visa for the US, then when pressed it's "Well, as a matter of fact ..." and now it turns out that it was a student visa for someone who isn't your average Thai boy. Why can't you be be open and honest and give us the full story first up?

That still reads like screwing the hired help to me

And I'm sure the lad's youth and fuckable good looks had nothing to do with his being hired -- at 17 and probably fresh out of high school -- for such an important job to begin with.

and as his work within the company had always been liasing with the UK office and I was due to visit London on business a few months after his birthday I decided to offer him the trip.

Sounds like the lad was a good candidate to obtain a UK visa on his own merit...unlike the type of boys most of the people here hang out with. 6th grade education, former prostitute, no job, no assets, sashay to the interview in hip-hugging fuck-me jeans and a white patent leather belt...no visa. Sorry, guys.

You are of course spot on.

The boy comes from Udon Thani and whilst at High School and with excellent results in the major subjects he decided on his own initiative to apply for employment in Bangkok where his married sister lives.

He wrote to about 20 companies and had 12 interviews, from which he received 6 job offers. He ended up in the same company as myself although in a different department and was at the company 5 months before I met him.

Our company have a strict formal dress code and when he attended the interview for a visa to the UK he wore exactly what he would do at work - smart formal.

He was advised to answer every question truthfully no matter how intrusive they appeared, he produced references from his former school, references from his department head, his bank account book which showed that he had been receiving a regular income from the company and proof that he did not have to support his family as they have their own small business.

My only involvement in the application was to stand as guarantor for any expences that would be incurred if he needed medical treatment whilst in the UK and confirm that the visit was for company business.

As you rightly point out there are many boys who do not bother to think about how they dress for the interview. Many also lie about their relationship with the farang and their intentions of what they plan do do if they are granted a visa.

He said he knew him then; he didn't say he screwed him then, unless, of course he used the word "knew" in the biblical sense.

Congratulations, unlike Homitern you interpreted my remark accurately.

He said he knew him then; he didn't say he screwed him then, unless, of course he used the word "knew" in the biblical sense.

Congratulations, unlike Homitern you interpreted my remark accurately.

And you still haven't categorically denied that you routinely had sex with a minor before his 18th birthday. Not saying that you screwed the boy doesn't mean you didn't screw the boy. Anyway, with your past history and the kind of places you frequent, I think we have a pretty good idea as to where you stand on the underage sex issue, m'dear.

Posted: Tue 27 Feb, 2007 8:54 pm

Oh dear I am going to dissapoint you.

Firstly it may be worth you remembering that you should never judge people by your own lack of moral standards.

I first knew b/f when he was 17 & 8 months of age and he started to work for my company.

I first took him out for a drink along with another 30 members of our staff on his 18th birthday and as his work within the company had always been liasing with the UK office and I was due to visit London on business a few months after his birthday I decided to offer him the trip. Things developed from there

Next question?


Last edited by Naughty But Nice on Wed 28 Feb, 2007 12:05 am; edited 1 time in total

I see you cleverly edited your reply 3 hours and 11 minutes after you initially posted it when your Romper Room activities were put under the spotlight; it now says "you first took him out for a drink...on his 18th birthday." You didn't make that distinction in your original reply, m'dear. Whatever it is, you obviously couldn't wait to get your dirty old hands on that poor boy from Udon, Grampa Naughty.

And you still haven't categorically denied that you routinely had sex with a minor before his 18th birthdayI could care less about that. I'm more interested in NbN having sexual relations with an employee in an inferior position to him, which still hasn't been denied

I'm more interested in NbN having sexual relations with an employee in an inferior position to him, which still hasn't been denied

Yes, yes, I see your point. He was sexually harassing an underage employee. But homi, you were caught buggering your manservant (or was it the other way around?) and we didn't hold it against you. When you think about it, all Thai boys with farang sugar daddies are de facto employees of their farang although in most of these situations both parties are volunteers. If not for his monthly stipend and the fancy trips to London, the nubile teenager from Udon wouldn't be caught dead in the same copy room with that perverse, smelly, old rat Grampa Naughty. The issue here is that Grampa Naughty made use of his office to coerce the poor teenager into bed.

What did you do, Grampa, ply the kid with Jesus juice at the office soiree?

Yes, yes, I see your point. He was sexually harassing an underaged employee. But homi, you were caught buggering your manservant (or was it the other way around?) and we didn't hold it against you.I disagree - there's nothing to suggest the boy was underage when sexual misadventures began. Indeed, I was caught buggering my soldier-servant - and cashiered (ie. punished). It should not have happened, and I am sorry for it (and if you read my Blog you will see that I found him a new emotional attachment when we both left the Army). One may joke about droit de seigneur but it's to be avoided, really

And now (noblesse oblige) I must prepare to inject some more money into the domestic Thai economy - a wealth transfer from me to a couple of the deserving poor - so it's off to the shower

... - there's nothing to suggest the boy was underage when sexual misadventures began.

There was until Grampa Naughty edited his post. At least we agree that it was/is a sexual misadventure. The poor Isaarn tot is now officially Jesus juice dependent.

... - there's nothing to suggest the boy was underage when sexual misadventures began.

There was until Grampa Naughty edited his post. At least we agree that it was/is a sexual misadventure. The poor Isaarn tot is now officially Jesus juice dependent.

I am afraid you are wrong yet again.

I edited the post to change the spelling of the word 'new' to 'knew'.

Sorry to dissapoint you.

And you still haven't categorically denied that you routinely had sex with a minor before his 18th birthdayI could care less about that. I'm more interested in NbN having sexual relations with an employee in an inferior position to him, which still hasn't been denied

I thought the Spanish Inquistion had finished but never mind I will play the game.

1. I never had sex with the boy until he was well over 18, by about 6 months I recall.

2. Not the hired help scenario etiher. Both of us work ( are hired help) by the same company. I am not in a superior position to him work wise as we are in totally different departments of the company. He answers to his department head who in turn answers to the Finacial Director of the company. I have no influence, nor would I wish to have any say in his work. He makes his own way in the company and to date has proved himself to be quite capable of doing so on his own merits.

Inquisition over?

Naughty but Nice says:



I was due to visit London on business a few months after his birthday I decided to offer him the trip. Things developed from there:

then in another post he says:



Both of us work ( are hired help) by the same company. I am not in a superior position to him work wise as we are in totally different departments of the company. He answers to his department head who in turn answers to the Finacial Director of the company. I have no influence, nor would I wish to have any say in his work. He makes his own way in the company and to date has proved himself to be quite capable of doing so on his own merits.

So if you have no influence over this employee and if you have no say in his work then why did you offer him the trip to London? How could you offer him the trip to London if you are not in a superior position to do so and more importantly why did HIS department head agree to let him go - (given this 18 year old paragon of industry is so essential to the company?) - and considering you are in totally different departments.

Or was he granted annual leave - after being there less than 12 months

Sounds like shit to me - bull shit that is

[quote="Miss Sybil Thrope Anyway, with your past history and the kind of places you frequent, I think we have a pretty good idea as to where you stand on the underage sex issue, m'dear.[/quote]

Put your money where your mouth is an point me to my past history and the places I frequent.

In fact over the past two years I have been in two clubs, one, that along with two of my fellow directors, was a private Thai club where we were invited to celebrate the company making a lot of money on their portfolios and I seem to recall posting details of that visit on this forum and another a club in Soi Cowboy where two visitors from Canada wanted to 'meet' some girls.

You appear to have this annoying little habit of assuming that your own sexual deviances are characteristic in eveybody else. :geek:

No company hires a 17+ year old Isan boy to "handle liaison with their London office"...I don't care what kind of marks he got in high school. The whole store is pure BS.

1. I never had sex with the boy until he was well over 18, by about 6 months I recall.


Reminds me of that little scene by Bill Clinton: "I never had sex with that woman - Miss Lewinsky."

Careful, m'dear, your stained blue dress is bound to show up soon.

No company hires a 17+ year old Isan boy to "handle liaison with their London office"...I don't care what kind of marks he got in high school. The whole store is pure BS.

He was not handling liason with the UK office, he was liasing with the UK office under supervision for the position he had applied for.

Our company has an excellent record of training new employees for the appointed job and this boy was no different to anyone else. We have over 400 employees in our two Bangkok offices and all new employees are given hands on training under at least one supervisor for a period of at least 6 months.

We have over 400 employees in our two Bangkok offices and all new employees are given hands on training under at least one supervisor for a period of at least 6 months.

And you obviously have got your hands all over the comely 17-year-olds.

Six months? Is that how long it takes the tiny tots to develop an addiction for Jesus juice?

[TrongpaiExpat]

Our company has an excellent record of training new employees for the appointed job and this boy was no different to anyone else.

You used to use the pronoun, "my". I had assumed that you were some big-shot hi so business man and owned this company where you put your out of town guest in essentially a gay hotel whether they liked it or not.

I own a model train set, does that make me the owner of a transportation company? I'll take one of those 17 year old boys as a trainee conductor.

How old are you again, you never answered my question?

The poop just gets thicker every time he opens his mouth, doesn't it?

It will probably help, but it will also definitely help if the Senator can say something positive about the applicant, e.g. "Mr. Puangwongsa was the valedictorian of his high school class, and graduated in third place (GPA). He speaks fluent English and has already been accepted to further his English studies at U.C. Berkeley extension. It seems to me that issuing a student visa to Mr. Puangwongsa would be in the best interests of both Thailand and America, especially since he has already spent four weeks studying in America, and returned to Thailand exactly as planned when that course of studies was complete."This is like drawing teeth. First of all you boast that you got a Thai boy a visa for the US, then when pressed it's "Well, as a matter of fact ..." and now it turns out that it was a student visa for someone who isn't your average Thai boy. Why can't you be be open and honest and give us the full story first up?

If you actually bothered to read what people post, you could have easily seen that my original statement ("I got an American visa for a Thai national") -- which was badly worded -- was immediately followed by the statement in the very same paragraph that the boy came and studied in San Francisco for three years. Do you imagine he would do that on a tourist visa? Do you imagine that he could do that without an excellent knowledge of English? Do you imagine that he could do that without working very, very hard? All of this is implicit in the fact that he actually went to study in America.

As another example: I would like to take credit for being his main English teacher during this whole adventure, and indeed I was, but HE was the guy who declared on arriving to live in my home that from there on out the language spoken at home would be English only! So my progress in Thai slowed down immensely, but it was clear to me that English was much more important to him than more Thai was to me. He also signed up for regular courses at AUA and went every day. I helped in every way I could, but HE had to be a self-starter, and he was. You don't seriously imagine that a Thai lad gets from the Chiang Rai sticks to San Francisco without exerting any effort, do you? (That is, unless he's a rich kid to begin with...)

Somehow, I get the feeling that you're hard to please!

:geek:

Telling pork pies again, m'dear? UC Berkeley Extension doesn't offer English studies or ESL support. You can take one-off courses in literature but as the name of the school implies, they only offer short-term extramural and continuing education courses for people who have had some form of post-secondary education. The longest course an international student studying full time can take up is a one-year diploma in business-related studies and that is a graduate course, ie, you must already have a degree. Definitely not three years.

If he went to the US to do a bachelor's then it would have taken him four years not three.

Stop lying! One Grampa Naughty is bad enough.

Our company has an excellent record of training new employees for the appointed job and this boy was no different to anyone else.

You used to use the pronoun, "my". I had assumed that you were some big-shot hi so business man and owned this company where you put your out of town guest in essentially a gay hotel whether they liked it or not.

I own a model train set, does that make me the owner of a transportation company? I'll take one of those 17 year old boys as a trainee conductor.

How old are you again, you never answered my question?

Trongpai, m'dear, my is a possessive determiner, not a pronoun. Basic pronouns are nouns that replace other nouns, for eg, he, she, they. Everything you say about Grampa Naughty is correct. Worthy of full marks but for the grammar infraction. 9 upon 10.

Somehow, I get the feeling that you're hard to please!Yes - just be grateful you don't work for me. Actually, based on this thread you would only last a day working for me

[Dodger]

It's fascinating watching a bunch of guys attacking someone because he's perceived as possibly having a relationship with a 17 Y/O, when the attackers themselves are having sex with guys who are old enough to be their grandsons- or great grandsons...if in fact, they are still capable of even having sex. And if that wasn't the case, they wouldn't be walking around with their half stiff boners in Thailand to begin with. I don't want to draw any misperceptions here.

The average age of the gay farang who chooses LOS as his playground is around 52 and the average age of the boys they have sex with, regardless of how you try to frame the relationship, is around 20. Considering the variation defined by the laws of basic statistics, you can assume that >70% of gay farangs are having sex with boys who's ages range between 17-23 years old. If you struggle with understanding basic statistics - just wipe the fog from your spectacles and use your eyes...it works every time.

I first met Boy Special when he was 17 or 18...can't really remember...and don't really give a flying fuck. The sex was great for the 5 years we were seeing each other, and from what I understand, he is now enjoying a similar relationship with a gentlemen who is eleven years my senior.

Personally, I'm more interested in hearing the erotic details of NbN's trip to London with the cute office boy.

Mai pen rai

[PeterUK]

Well said, Dodger. I'm often reminded of some words of Goethe (and why not?) when perusing this board and the contributions of some posters in particular: 'Beware those in whom the urge to punish is strong.'

Let's face the truth Dodger. If it weren't for Viagra and its follow-ons, Most of these old codgers chasing young thai boys around would instead be back in their home country watching TV and reminiscing about the days when they could get a boner LOL

It's disgusting to watch these grandpas running around The Babylon with their viagra engored dicks.

It's fascinating watching a bunch of guys attacking someone because he's perceived as possibly having a relationship with a 17 Y/O, when the attackers themselves are having sex with guys who are old enough to be their grandsons- or great grandsons...if in fact, they are still capable of even having sex.As far as I can tell, "a bunch of guys" = Sybil Thrope. In just a few more years I'll be able to have sex legally in Thailand with someone a quarter my age. Rock on

Good luck jaafarabutara.b, may the love gods smile on you