My Real plans!

I will be having very big plans this year.I see hundreds of Thai boys in Sydney as students.Already im planning on buying a 3 bedroom unit in the heart of the city and renting the rooms out to Thai only students even though i like chinese ladyboys too.I dont like Korean much.
Anyway i plan to go to Thailand and pick up a boy and bring him back here and work here to help pay off the mortgage.There are heaps of thai restaurants where he can work.I dont know how to do this yet but im thinking maybe student visa and then applying for a permanent visa so he can get a job to help pay the bills.Has anyone else brought out a guy from Thailand.I need him to work 12 hour shifts to help pay the mortgage.
Maybe a 12 month tourist visa might be better then if he s agood worker apply for permanent visa. It cant be that hard,how come we have Filipinos migrating to Australia? What visa is a Filipino on?
How do they get in? Theres not many THai residents in Sydney .I dont understand this immigration website,maybe i should go to a immigraton agent? I want to help out thai boys who want to study in Sydney.

[dab69]

how much of a class load can he handle after working a 12 hour shift paying your mortgage for you?

Sounds very dodgy to me.

Sounds like you just want someone to pay your mortages for you. How is that helping the thai guy? Renting the rooms out is an idea but having someone move in to just help pay the mortages sounds like you would be helping yourself more than the boy. WHERE do you get these crazy ideas? What happened to the bar (bars) you would be opening?

Sounds like you just want someone to pay your mortages for you. How is that helping the thai guy? Renting the rooms out is an idea but having someone move in to just help pay the mortages sounds like you would be helping yourself more than the boy. WHERE do you get these crazy ideas? What happened to the bar (bars) you would be opening?

He dont love thai, he just want to be pleased by using a guy for sex, and then let him pay the mortage. Sure after 12 hours of work, the guy, should be his bedmate, then going to study. It is not just chynical but a bad person suggesting this.

[quote="mrsydney"]
Anyway i plan to go to Thailand and pick up a boy and bring him back here and work here to help pay off the mortgage.There are heaps of thai restaurants where he can work.I dont know how to do this yet but im thinking maybe student visa and then applying for a permanent visa so he can get a job to help pay the bills.Has anyone else brought out a guy from Thailand.I need him to work 12 hour shifts to help pay the mortgage.
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This is just as bad as expoitation of girls having to work in brothels to pay their debt.

if you are sincere and you are offering to put the boy through school,
who will pay his school fees. Why would he come just to pay your mortgage???
Will he pay you rent
Who will pay for his food, clothing and travel.
What is in it for him, it seems only you come out in front.
If he is coming on a tourist visa he will not have a work permit.
If you plan for him to work off the books, many asian restaurants exploit
overseas students by paying them in cash less than half the award rate.
$7-8 per hours against the legal rate of almost $17.
Will he have to do your cleaning, polish your jackboots as your boys in LOS have to do
Will he wear his dog collar whilst working.
If he is caught working without a work permit, he can be held in detention pending deportation. will you wipe your hands off him then
You have no chance off getting him a permit to visit Australia, the immigration rules are designed to prevent exactly what you are proposing.
Of course the criminal community seems to make it work by oiling the system, but you dont have that in mind or do you.
Thank you for your 2 private messages telling me to F### off.

pII

I imagine the brothels in Sydney such as Thai City escorts bring their girls out as Students.I dont know how they get away with it.But they do.
So obviously there are ways.Yes your right on a Tourist visa they cannot work,but on a student visa they can do up to 20 hrs during class time and unlimited in the holidays.I looked at student visas and according to the Aust immigration website,the applicant must do a written english test in their own country first and get a approved score.God knows how the Thai girls in Thai City and all the other brothels got student visas when they cant speak english.I would like to know,maybe i should email or ring the immigration dept to ask what visa the prostitutes are on.
I had thought Thailand had aranged Working holiday visas with Australia?
Seems I was wrong as Thailand is not a country listed as a working holiday country,strange that Vietnam is listed on Australian immigration website for working holiday visas and not Thailand applicants.
Yes its possible to apply for a student visa for a Thai boy and pay for him to attend a english language school for 12 months.
The part i need to know is where can they obtain a passport and how long does the application take?
I plan to bring a Thai boy here for 2 weeks at first to see if they like it.
My friend who is 24 wants to come here and is a qualified car mechanic in Pattaya and speaks english 95 % but cant write it which is no good to do the english test for students.I want to get him a passport and a tourist visa for 2 weeks and then after go from there.He is skilled so thats for him in the future for perm residency.

It seem to me, that you want thaiboys just to help you pay your mortgage. They will be prostitutes. Your idea isa bad reputation for farangs- it show that farang only interested in thaiboys for sex.
Drop that creazy idea - mr. badsydney.

It seem to me, that you want thaiboys just to help you pay your mortgage. They will be prostitutes. Your idea isa bad reputation for farangs- it show that farang only interested in thaiboys for sex.
Drop that creazy idea - mr. badsydney.

Thats not the case at all haju,I want to bring my Thai friends here for short holidays.2 week holiday here i think is ok.Many Thai boys have asked to come back to Australia for a holiday.But i would like to think after 2 weeks they would get bored and like to get a job in which they cant on a tourist visa.Still i would probaly have to arrange my friends passport and we would both go to Bangkok to get his Tourist visa.
God knows how some of these"students"here in Sydney passed the english entry test as some of them there english is shocking.
It can be done to bring a Thai boy out here,it just takes a bit of research and time.I have a big heart and would love to show a Thai boy who has potential and cant afford it to come here and study.

Billy - you are a` FUCKING Putz

Get your head out of your arse - perhaps the fresh air will do your brain some good

BTW - thanks for the stupid messages - and for the record I am Finnish - not American.

Try not writing when you are drunk

Better still - try not writing at all

Dickhead

Thai and Aussie governments recently have an agreement on Working Holiday. Thai university graduates can go to Australia for a working holiday for one year. Aussie graduates can also come to Thiland on the same basis.

It seem to me, that you want thaiboys just to help you pay your mortgage. They will be prostitutes....

Perhaps poor Billy suffers delusions of grandeur.
I mean: If they are paying his mortgage, wouldn't he be the prostitute?

(Assuming one would want to.) How could one 'do it' with a 168k hooker?
Roll him in flour and go for the damp spot.

[jimnbkk]

"God knows how some of these"students"here in Sydney passed the english entry test as some of them there english is shocking. "

So true, Mr. Sydney. Did they perhaps learn from you?????

Mrsydney, bringing a Thai boy to Australia, makes you have a big responsibility. That Thai boy will be far from his family, his friends, he will be in your hands in a country not his cult-her. You want him to work 12 hours and study ?
If ever you bring a Thai boy to Australia, let him stay for a Holiday and ask him what he likes to do ! It is his Thai life and Thai further and we " fa-rang" can not tell a Thai what to do.
You never can makes a Thai follow the direction you want, mrsydney, please understand about Thai and if you do, you understand your story above is very silly, mrsydney

This weekend was the get together and compare notes from the 6 that went to various places in LOS, during the high season. We had a laugh a your naive idea of finding a sex slave to pay off your mortgage.

As we had heard of many people who had applied unsuccessfully, and a few that were lucky , I thought I would summarize what you might be in for, to put it in perspective.

First the bank account in the boys name 15,000baht. not thai and farang just thai. be prepared to lose that.

Second his original birth certificate is needed for his passport, and in some cases his parents permission
In both cases he may have to go to his parents to get this. The costs of a passport were over 2000b and you pay. Probably more now.

A return air ticket, pay it by credit card so he cannot encash and keep money. A favourite trick. If enrolling in a education course, pay that by credit card so it must be refunded to you

Then financial evidence of your capacity to totally support him in Oz.
You have to buy overseas visitor medical insurance. We are not sure if this applies for short term visitors but certainly for students.

Details of your relationship to him and how long you have known each other . Pictures of you in jackboots and a dog collar around his neck dont seem to be of interest.

If he has a job, (NOT GO GO) his employers agreement to re-employ him on return. They will ring his employer

Suggestions

stick to only those who have a passport already,

stick to uni students and for only during uni vacations,

if from Pattaya forget completely and find someone from the above 2,

the only Pattaya boys we have heard had employment and training opportunities.
one an apprentice chef in a 5 star hotel to work in similar, the other a hotel front of house trainee who went to a hotel with the same software as the hotel in LOS

Do you plan to take leave from work to show him around? What will he do
to keep himself occupied if you dont?

two of the five we know went to saunas every day, guess who paid, or had set up meetings with other guys from gaydar. Usually they wanted to go to discos and then came home with a fistful of mobile numbers. One old fool (younger than me) overheard some young gays urging his boy to get rid of the old man and get with people his own age. You may be young but you are overweight and there are no ethics in the discos.


Only one of the five remains in contact with the farang. He did an english course for 10 weeks at $390 per week and returned to uni. He has made two further visits each of 6 weeks. He got a 6 months tourist visa.

This is written not so much for your benefit, but anybody else that might think your idea had some appeal

Yes thanks for your info asianad.
Was this in Sydney or another State?

I am thinking its far better to bring over on a tourist visa first which would be a bit easier. In regards to staying away from barboys,there are some with potential that are smarter to study here in Sydney.
Applying for a 2 week tourist visa may be the best thing.
As to your comments about being overweight,not everyone dislikes fat people.Opposition political leader KimBeazley of the Labor Party is fatter than me.

I am thinking its far better to bring over on a tourist visa first which would be a bit easier. In regards to staying away from barboys,there are some with potential that are smarter to study here in Sydney.
Applying for a 2 week tourist visa may be the best thing.
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An application for a 2 week or 6 months visa will still require the same amount of documentation.

If from Pattaya and they do not have an employer that can be confirmed , you have NO CHANCE.

I would start backwards in your case, decide on what you plan to do for that 14 days first. Take leave from work . go shopping for clothes if cold season. Take him to the snow. get an idea of how far you are prepared to go and how much you expect it will cost you. believe me you will get a shock when you start to do some figures. Add to this the
cost of a return ticket, his passport and clothes,suitcase maybe a camera.
What are you prepared to commit to. This is not a wealthy boy but a bar boy. You will be up for everything.

It is doubtful you could arrange all of this during one of your flying visits,
so you would need to return to attend the interview. Do not for a minute think this is going to be easy or automatic.

Then ask your self is it worth the trouble. After all he is not your boy special.

I'm bemused that someone is taking this thread seriously. Is slavery legal in Australia? If I say "do not feed the trolls", I will be accused of smirking or even being the smirker!

The really great flaw in this plan is that I have yet to meet a Thai that would fall for it.

I'm bemused that someone is taking this thread seriously. Is slavery legal in Australia? If I say "do not feed the trolls", I will be accused of smirking or even being the smirker!

The really great flaw in this plan is that I have yet to meet a Thai that would fall for it.

I agree totally with you.

But what does the naive bar boy do when he gets an exciting offer like this

I hate users. I hate abusers. I probably should have shut up.but that is not me.

I see so much hurt for thai boys and no gain, sorry if you do not agree. surely the boy is most important.

I have seen women from the Philippines who come work here on the fields of farmers.

They are used and not happy but stand under large presser of their Phillip pines family,

Money is for them more important than they are being used.

Also much Thai dream off a better life in a country white a future


I
'm bemused that someone is taking this thread seriously

Interesting post Baziel, but I can't make heads or tails of it!

TWO people from Sydney have been arrested on sexual Slavery charges after a Thai woman was allegedly lured to Australia to work in brothels against her will.
http://www.freetheslaves.net/news/archi ... x-slavery/ (http://www.freetheslaves.net/news/archive/2004/07/two-arrested-over-sex-slavery/)

Besides I think you would be better of organising those walking tours of Dubbo and Redfern..keep you fit and fascinate all of us at the same time :geek:

Hayon, in fact i mean that transmit someone of Thailand to your country a large responsibility whit itself brings . Still daily people everywhere in the wold be used .

Mrsydney however will mean to amuse us, if he wants a Thai work 12 hours and study in Australia
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I want only just indicate that in this wold people run white less beautiful intentions



Interesting post Baziel, but I can't make heads or tails of it!

As i walk around Sydney i see some Thai ladyboy "sluts" walking past me.Sure these are students,so its not that hard to do.If these sluts can do it so can i .
A tourist visa can be arranged,i wil go to a travel agent in Pattaya and tell them to arange it.A thai citizen surely can travel to Australia for a bloody holiday! Its not as difficult as you make out.
My friend is in management at Foodland supermarket,he has a passport and is 31yo.So im gonna pay for him to come here for about 7 days.He has been to Singapore etc but not to Australia.
Another one of my friends is a baht bus driver and wants to be a student here,im thinking of getting him a job maybe driving taxis in SYdney so he can earn money but im a bit woried about his safety,even he is not woried as he use to be a Muay Thai fighter but i told him its different when theres 5 against one.But i will do it eventually. :cheers:

Baziel has obviously never heard of the electric shock collar.

it makes me unhappy that cruel people want to make people suffer so they can earn money
i read this in old board seems not first time bad people think of sex slaves
http://p092.ezboard.com/fsawatdeeforumf ... =410.topic (http://p092.ezboard.com/fsawatdeeforumfrm72.showMessage?topicID=410.topic)