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October 15th, 2006, 23:29
Another factor for the over-weight hypochondriac ex-pats in Thailand to angst about. At least it will be a change from heart problems, diabetes, urology, hernias and sexual impotence which seem worry so many of them. It could also explain the incoherent drivel which some of them come up with on this and other boards. :blah5:


The greater your weight, the lower your IQ, say scientists
By Nina Goswami

D.Telegrah, UK, Filed: 15/10/2006

It is bad for your blood pressure, knocks years off your life and is a strain on your heart. Now scientists have discovered that gaining weight lowers your intelligence. The findings follow last week's government figures that show Britain as the "fat man" of Europe, with nearly a quarter of adults and more than 14 per cent of children under 16 classified as obese.

The new five-year study of more than 2,200 adults claims to have found a link between obesity and the decline in a person's cognitive function. The research, conducted by French scientists, which is published in this month's Neurology journal, involved men and women aged between 32 and 62 taking four mental ability tests that were then repeated five years later. The researchers found that people with a Body Mass Index тАУ a measure of body fat тАУ of 20 or less could recall 56 per cent of words in a vocabulary test, while those who were obese, with a BMI of 30 or higher, could remember only 44 per cent. The fatter subjects also showed a higher rate of cognitive decline when they were retested five years later: their recall dropped to 37.5 per cent, whereas those with a healthy weight retained their level of recall.

According to British guidelines, a person with a BMI of between 18.5 and 25 is considered to be at an ideal weight, while 25 is overweight and 30 or more is regarded as clinically obese.

Dr Maxime Cournot, who headed the study, suggested that hormones secreted from fats could have a damaging effect on cerebral cells, resulting in decreased brain function. "Another explanation could be that since obesity is a widely known cardiovascular risk factor, due to the thickening and hardening of the blood vessels, that the same happens with the arteries in the brain," said Dr Cournot, an assistant professor in clinical epidemiology at Toulouse University Hospital.

Dr David Haslam, the clinical director of the National Obesity Forum, said the research was alarming. "It goes to show obesity affects every single organ in the human body," said Dr Haslam.

But Ann Widdecombe, the former Tory minister, said that the research seemed unsustainable. "You just need to look around the world and you will see hundreds of thin nitwits and clever fat people," said Ms Widdecombe, who lost two stone when taking part in the television show Celebrity Fit Club. "When I lost weight it was my waistline that improved, not my cerebellum."

Aunty
October 16th, 2006, 05:15
As a scientist who lectures in obesity (it's an interest of mine), it's poor quality obesity research and/or reporting of it like this that just makes me cringe. On face value, without having read the paper, this just sounds like third rate crap to me.

Given that this is startling finding on a potential consequence of being obese, how come it wasn't published in one of the leading international journals on obesity? I'm guessing they tried and it got rejected.

A couple of points.

1. Being overweight or obese does NOT shave years off your life. For that you need to be morbidly obese (80-100 lbs+; 40kg's+), and even then the amount of life lost due to obesity is not as great as you might think.

3. BMI does NOT measure the amount of fat on the body, what an ignorant statement.

For those who are interested in reading a more meaningful report on the consequences of obesity, the recent New Zealand/Australian edition of TIME magazine (28 Sept) is an excellent place to start. It's on the front cover.

Fat or Fiction? You may be healthier than you think. The distortions and myths that fuel the OBESITY hysteria by Daniel Williams



But of course I could be wrong. Plonker-Dunce's a fatty, and none too bright!

October 16th, 2006, 09:40
But of course I could be wrong. Plonker-Dunce's a fatty, and none too bright!Correct - and that's despite eating plenty of fish. But then, how many intelligent Roman Catholics do you know?

Dboy
October 19th, 2006, 15:51
You guys may be too fat to get layed, but it could also save your life:



http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/18/bc.na ... index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/18/bc.na.gen.us.cultleader.ap/index.html)

Cult leader says he's too obese for execution
POSTED: 4:45 p.m. EDT, October 18, 2006

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- A federal judge on Tuesday delayed next week's execution of cult leader Jeffrey Lundgren to allow him to join a lawsuit by five other death row inmates challenging the state's use of lethal injection.

In his request to join the lawsuit, Lundgren, 56, said he is at even greater risk of experiencing pain and suffering during the procedure than other inmates because he is overweight and diabetic.

Similar lawsuits filed in several states have led to the halting of executions in Missouri, Delaware and New Jersey.

Opponents have argued that the use of the lethal injection is unconstitutionally cruel and painful and that the procedure is often carried out without specifically trained medical personnel present.

But Ohio's method of lethal injection came under national scrutiny by death penalty opponents in May after problems slowed the execution of another inmate who was a former intravenous drug user and the vein the execution team chose collapsed as the chemicals started flowing.

While Judge Gregory Frost issued an order temporarily delaying Lundgren's execution, he said it appears to him that potential flaws with Ohio's execution process could easily be corrected.

"Thus, any delay in carrying out Lundgren's execution should and can be minimal," Frost said.

State Attorney General Jim Petro will appeal the ruling to the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati, said spokesman Mark Anthony.

Lundgren's sentence stems from a conviction for the fatal shooting of a family of five in 1989. The family, which included three children, were killed while they stood in a pit dug inside his barn in northeast Ohio.

Lundgren formed a cult after he was dismissed in 1987 as a lay minister of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, now known as the Community of Christ.

He said passages in the Bible told him to kill the family. Several witnesses said the family was not as enthusiastic about the cult as Lundgren would have liked.

The family he killed had moved from Missouri in 1987 to follow Lundgren's teachings.

Frost's decision allows Lundgren to join a 2004 lawsuit brought by death row inmate Richard Cooey, convicted of the rape and murder of two University of Akron students in 1986.

Cooey argues that the way chemicals used in lethal injection are administered makes the process painful enough to amount to cruel and unusual punishment, in violation of the constitution.

Four other inmates had previously joined the lawsuit.