Chengdu and Chongqing

[christianpfc]

I spent two weeks in Chengdu and Chongqing. I was searching for gay venues in English on bing and in Chinese on baidu. Few results. I went to MC bar and sauna and a local told me they closed two years ago. I went to Tata bar and there is now a different business, which was not open Friday night around 9. How to find gay venues?


Gay online dating similar. I scrolled down on blued a bit, and when I reached 610 km distance, there is a message "There are no more guys, please check it later." Is there an international version of blued which I am using, and a local one they are using?
(Taking advantage of 15 days visa free for Germans and various others. Sawatdeenetwork is not blocked in China.)

[Moses]

=== Is there an international version of blued which I am using, and a local one they are using?===
Yes, Blued (Now "HeeSay") has 2 different versions: for Intl and for locals.

But most popular app in China is in Chinese language only. 探探 for example.

Chinese gays joking "Chongqing is the capital of Chinese bottoms".

===Sawatdeenetwork is not blocked in China.===
Thank you.

I have friend in Chongqing. He is Chinese. But I think is too late to ask him about consultations?

[latintopxxx]

China is very difficult...i spent many weekends in Shanghai up until about 8 years ago...most of my sex with with other foreigners...I stayed at the Hilton in the french concession...its now run under a different brand...lots of flight crew stayed there....they had a fantastic gymn sauna area...had sooo much sex...but again it was all foreign crew...the gay bars and clubs seemed to move every few months..sex in regional cities like Suzhou, Wuxi, Nanjing was even more difficult...the Chinese are not as polished as the Taiwaneses, Thais...its all very difficult and akward

[christianpfc]

I have friend in Chongqing. He is Chinese. But I think is too late to ask him about consultations?
I'm back in Thailand, but I will go to China again. Advice on gay online dating and gay saunas welcome. Gay bars not so much my scene, but I would have a look. Of course massage, gogo bars or street trade is of interest, if such thing exist. I can read and write basic Chinese, language is not a problem.

[pong]

Sorry, cannot help in this respect. But why the heck stay that long in those 2 big cities only? Was it so inviting/exciting to plan to come back already?
Have been 5x to mainland CHina (and 2x Taiwan-last one late nov.), first 2 in a group, long pre 2000, then by myself, but every time it got more nasty+difficult to get visa etc. Travel around all by yourself, AND on a budget also more a challenge as what one thinks of as be a holiday. Did not chase after gay adventures.
Hint: go via Laos and by train-the better parts of China (in general view) are those with the lesser nr of Chinese, so then you come in Yunnan/Kunming. You pass sipsongpanna, where they speak a kind of Thai. But perhaps this new visa-free is only valid when enter via some airports-maybe not even coming overland from HongKong.

[christianpfc]

I got a return flight Bangkok-Chengdu, therefor I didn't want to venture far from Chengdu.
I made side trips to Emeishan, Leshan, Fengdu.
Anyway, first trip mostly to get acquainted and figure out how things work.
There are spectacular mountains in China, little known outside, but well developed for local tourism.
(Danxia Mountain in Shaoguan, Fanjingshan, Zhangjiajie, each of them alone worth a trip to China.)
I found I can holiday in China about as cheap as elsewhere in SEAsia.
But they are not prepared for international tourists, reading basic Chinese was very helpful.
I have vague plans for Kunming-Sipsongphanha-Lao by train.
I will certainly make use of that 15 days visa free (don't know how it works overland) next year.
Tourist visa for 142.50 EUR and a lot of documentation as others report, no thank you.

Everyone and their grandmother have been to Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia.
Due to absence of foreign tourists, China still somewhat exotic.
In two weeks in China, I saw 4 White tourists.
Going to Lotus Prasart (Surin province) for lunch, I saw 4 Whites.

[christianpfc]

My next trip in three weeks. One week in Chongqing and then stops over land to Hong Kong.

But most popular app in China is in Chinese language only. 探探 for example.
I have friend in Chongqing. He is Chinese. But I think is too late to ask him about consultations?
探探 on Google Play leads to TanTan - Asian Dating App, Tantan Hong Kong Limited, 3.6 stars in 1M reviews, 50M+ Downloads. I will try this.

Yes please, any additional info on gay in Chongqing and elsewhere in mainland China appreciated.

[pasiontop]

cristianpfc keep us posted on your trip. I'm interested in visiting China too. I've had very positive experience with Chinese guys overseas, and they always tell me I'd be very popular in China (I was very popular in Hong Kong and Taiwan), but when I downloaded Blued and changed my location to China, there were hardly any guys in the app. Now it makes sense if they have a different version for China.

[latintopxxx]

you guys are total dimwits..China is NOT gay friendly at ALL, it all has to be done discreetly, even a big metropolis like shanghai struggles, they are far too traditional and its only gotten more tradition and conservative under the current government. I spent 8 years auditing companies in Wuxi, Suzhou, Hangzhou , Shangahi to name a few...sex was always difficult with locals...issues with personal hygiene to weird long pubic air, to being totally in the closet ...strange mentally damaged people... you need to pop over to Singapore or HK to meet "normal": Chinese

[arsenal]

The moneyboy system is different in China. Moneyboys work like traveling salesmen offering their wares in different cities for a few days at a time.

How to spot them on blued (Chinese version)
Usually multiple profiles.
A congregation in certain areas as they tend to stay in the same hotels.

They charge more than Thais but less than Europe. The service is excellent. The latest generation of 20 somethings are noticeably bigger than the previous ones. Over 24 and the boy WILl be overweight.


China is ruling the world in terms of touristy stuff. Mountain walkways along sheer cliffs and glass bridges hundreds of meters long. Terrifying roller coaster rides and rope ways. Huge cable cars and massive resorts built on the cliff tops.

You can book train tickets on trip.com. When you get confirmation email them to ask about ticket collection and someone will call you very soon afterwards.

Get wechat and you can communicate with anyone you need to such as a doctor, dentist, moneyboy or policeman.

[christianpfc]

I've had very positive experience with Chinese guys overseas, and they always tell me I'd be very popular in China (I was very popular in Hong Kong and Taiwan), but when I downloaded Blued and changed my location to China, there were hardly any guys in the app. Now it makes sense if they have a different version for China.
I had poor experiences in Hong Kong 2019 and Taiwan 2017-2019 (getting guys from online; saunas were great), and now Tantan a big disappointment. As far as I know, there is no Chinese mainland version of Blued, they use different apps (Tantan and Momo, no relation to Blued).

Others who write about Chinese version of Blued, what is it? Name can be in Chinese, or screenshot of icon? Are there any gay saunas in China?

Details and statistics when I'm back, but so far I can say on future trips to China (for sightseeing, mostly mountain) I won't even bother with gay apps or anything else, unless someone tells me how exactly it's done.

Can be generalized for China and India (my recent trip 3 weeks in February), I'm interested in Chinese and Indians, not as much as in Thai, Khmer, Myanmar, but you would think by sheer number I could make something work, but statistics are so much in my disfavor that I couldn't make anything work (1 week India on Blued - I gave up after 1 week of my 3 week trip - , 1 week China on Tantan, I can extrapolate that it would take me dozens of hours on the apps to get one encounter).


You can book train tickets on trip.com. When you get confirmation email them to ask about ticket collection and someone will call you very soon afterwards.
With great difficulty did I manage to register and buy a train ticket on 12306 (Chinese Railway). I wondered that I didn't get a ticket by email or on their website, but as all tickets are bound to a person, I went to railway station and could pass security and check-in just with my passport. There was no paper ticket, not even a digital ticket or QR-code, just my passport to which ticket is connected. Second attempt to buy a train ticket online failed and I had to go to railway station (days in advance, as trains tend to sell out and be full).

[Moses]

====Others who write about Chinese version of Blued, what is it?===
It is just Blued, but installed to phone with Chinese SIM-card. Almost the same. With "small" detail: these who uses domestic version don't see users with Intl version, users of Intl version don't see users of domestic version.
Like WeChat - if you have Chinese phone number and SIM-card - it offers a lot of possibilities besides of chats - payment gateways, ticketing, games and a lot of other functions. If you use it on phone with foreign SIM-card, then you are limited to chats, news channels and personal blogs.