Vaccinated Travelers Can Come to Thailand With no Quarantine Beginning Nov.1 ?

[Manforallseasons]

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thailand-further-ease-coronavirus-restrictions-2021-09-27/

[gerefan2]

The article leads with this...
“ People wait in front of a coronavirus disease (COVID-19) mobile vaccination bus set-up to serve the elderly and disabled groups in Bangkok, Thailand, September 8, 2021. REUTERS/Juarawee Kittisilpa”



Look carefully at the pic. Can you see anybody Elderly or Disabled?

[Gaybutton]

Considering how inconsistent everything has been and the way they often suddenly change the rules with little or no advance notice, I wouldn't count on anything until it actually happens.

I realize many want to go back to Thailand, but you might want to wait until everything falls into place and stays that way, along with waiting until the bars reopen.

I also wouldn't be so quick to assume Thailand will reopen in November. We've all heard about reopening dates only to have every one of them postponed. If I were planning a holiday in Thailand, I would not rely on when they say Thailand will reopen. I would wait until Thailand actually does reopen - and is unlikely to shut down yet again.

[Dodger]

Unless I'm missing something, nowhere in the article does it mention the fact that at least 70% of the population in each of these provinces has to be vaccinated before tourists are allowed entry without quarantine.

Here we go again with TAT's Smoke & Mirror Machine.

The article mentions the fact that efforts are underway to buy more vaccine from various foreign sources, but goes on to say that the actual dates have not been established yet. If this wasn't such a sad situation it would be laughable.

As far as I'm concerned, any article that involves "reopening" that fails to include mention of the CCSA mandates is just "Fake News".

[Manforallseasons]

More here: https://youtu.be/7uKe8Yrvpfs


https://youtu.be/7uKe8Yrvpfs

[Dodger]

It looks like the biggest problem Pattaya is faced with at achieving 70% vaccination, aside from actually getting enough vaccine, is getting Thais who live in Pattaya but are registered in another province vaccinated. I keep asking myself the same question over and over again: Why don't they just disregard this "Place of Registration" nonsense and just vaccinate them anywhere they choose, which would be a win-win-win situation.

Example:

If a Thai who is working in Pattaya and has their registered residence in Surin, were to get their vaccine at the sports stadium in Pattaya for instance, their Vaccination Record would be established and recorded at that stadium - showing the person as being vaccinated in Chonburi Province, with a residence address in Surin Province. This would be so simple to accomplish if they would just think outside of the box.

Pattaya would stand a good chance of hitting the 70% target if they had enough vaccine, and provided this type of flecibility for the Thais living in Pattaya. According to the last video MFAS posted, around 50% of all Thais living in Pattaya fall in this category.

The clocks ticking again.

[Manforallseasons]

This appears to be less of an issue as a friend went with a Cambodian boy as walk-ins at Central Festival both were vaccinated.

[Dodger]

This appears to be less of an issue as a friend went with a Cambodian boy as walk-ins at Central Festival both were vaccinated.

The Thais who are being turned away must be doing cartwheels...LOL.

[christianpfc]

If I were planning a holiday in Thailand, I would not rely on when they say Thailand will reopen. I would wait until Thailand actually does reopen - and is unlikely to shut down yet again.
Exactly. Whenever such news come in, I wait three days to see if it was fake news from the start, or a misunderstanding, or there is something in the footnotes that makes it unfeasible. Then I read in detail and make plans.

[Old git]

Whilst we've had a belly-full of false hopes over the past few months, this story is very encouraging for two reasons:

1) Reuters has a reputation to maintain. It avoids reporting uncertain information without including caveats.

2) The text is framed as Thailand WILL - not Thailand MAY. If their source had said: 'this is what we'll do, provided no-one changes their mind' the word may would have been used instead of will.

That said, Thai governments have some form for saying something with certainty and then changing their mind, so beware of buying tickets for Nov 1st - for now.

As for the 70% vaccination figure, I think this should be seen as a placebo to reassure the local population, rather than a vaccine percentage that will actually prevent the bug from spreading. I suspect that if the figures are looking like falling slightly short on Oct 31st, they will be magically enhanced..

[gerefan2]

No quarantine, but travellers will still have to go into a Pattaya Sandbox scheme.

Misleading wording at best.

[goji]

Exactly.

Visitors can already travel to Thailand with no quarantine, as long as they use the Phuket sandbox.

The change is that some other provinces will be added from 1 November, but the exact sandbox rules for those provinces are not confirmed yet.
I guess we ought to hear the detail within a couple of weeks.

[wrapper]

Considering how inconsistent everything has been and the way they often suddenly change the rules with little or no advance notice, I wouldn't count on anything until it actually happens.

I realize many want to go back to Thailand, but you might want to wait until everything falls into place and stays that way, along with waiting until the bars reopen.

I also wouldn't be so quick to assume Thailand will reopen in November. We've all heard about reopening dates only to have every one of them postponed. If I were planning a holiday in Thailand, I would not rely on when they say Thailand will reopen. I would wait until Thailand actually does reopen - and is unlikely to shut down yet again.

please change your record, the whole world knows what you think, everytime we get any hope you "gaybutton" come out with the very same negative comments, maybe you are very happy to be living in Thailand minus the tourists or maybe your just a [Deleted text] ?...on this and your own forum Gaybutton you've made these negative thoughts of yours very clear, please instead of constantly repeating your negativity could you just hold off or actually write something positive on this subject?

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[Old git]

Mentioned this story to a female Thai acquaintance who is usually well-informed.

She thinks too many people are making money out of the current regime, and are fighting to keep at least seven days of quarantine going, arguing that it won't deter mass tourism.

Wrong, I'm sure - let's see who prevails..

[christianpfc]

Whilst we've had a belly-full of false hopes over the past few months, this story is very encouraging for two reasons:

1) Reuters has a reputation to maintain. It avoids reporting uncertain information without including caveats.

2) The text is framed as Thailand WILL - not Thailand MAY. If their source had said: 'this is what we'll do, provided no-one changes their mind' the word may would have been used instead of will.
1) Reuters is only a secondary source of information, or third if you include translation, with the announcement by Thai government in Thai language being the source.

2) And then it says "as the country TRIES to boost its immunisation rate..." and elsewhere a 70% immunisation was quoted as a requirement for opening?

For me it gets interesting when reports from people who have entered under the new conditions come in.


Mentioned this story to a female Thai acquaintance who is usually well-informed.

She thinks too many people are making money out of the current regime, and are fighting to keep at least seven days of quarantine going, arguing that it won't deter mass tourism.

Wrong, I'm sure - let's see who prevails..
For entire Thailand, it would be better to have 1 m tourists without quarantine,
but for those benefiting from quarantine, it would be better to have 100 k tourists with quarantine.

[goji]

And then it says "as the country TRIES to boost its immunisation rate..." and elsewhere a 70% immunisation was quoted as a requirement for opening?

For me it gets interesting when reports from people who have entered under the new conditions come in.


For entire Thailand, it would be better to have 1 m tourists without quarantine,
but for those benefiting from quarantine, it would be better to have 100 k tourists with quarantine.

Nationally, an average 70% immunisation rate ought to be achieved in December, possibly slightly before.

Then the one benefit of opening up on 1 Nov is that we can observe how that sandbox goes before booking any winter trips to Thailand. So let's hope they keep that date.