What happen to the sticky on Proxy sites?

[TrongpaiExpat]

I know that this does not pertain to those of you back in Farangland but the Thai censor is still at work here. It's very inconistent, sometimes blocked other times I get through, no logic to it at all. CFS and other porn sites cruise right through but recently via my ISP (Hutch) I have been getting blocked more than usual.

The link on the old Sawatdee site for a proxy is via legallyblind and I get a forbbiden message on that one. Several others just don't load, or take forever. I have to shop around for one that is working on any given day.

Did one of the adm. remove that post thinking that the ban was lifted here?

Why don't you simply use UltraSurf?

[Geezer]

Using TOT ASDL at Center Condo I can get this site for about 45 minutes in four days. There is no pattern.

[Smiles]

" ... What happen to the sticky on Proxy sites? ... "
One of the moderators unstickied it. For what reason? ... no explanation. Helpful eh?

It's still in this forum ( http://www.sawatdee-gay-thailand.com/fo ... php?t=7359 (http://www.sawatdee-gay-thailand.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7359) ), but going down the page fast.

Cheers ...

[TrongpaiExpat]

I found Ultrasurf by google now called ultrareach and downloaded it. It scrambled the web page so I could not read it. I tried to download the reedme file, maybe I am not using it correct, but the file would open.

The Proxy works but is just so slow. Those that skip all photos are a little better.

It appears to me that the censors are getting better at blocking this site. There's not going to be many residents left either willing or able to use the proxy if this keeps up. I can't keep changing ISP's

Any thoughs about removing the nude images or whatever they are offended with?

[Aunty]

Is it possible for the moderators to block access to the naughty pics from surfers in Thailand, but leave them available to folk in the rest of the world? That way there would be a two tier site, and while perhaps disappointing to visitors from Thailand, it would nevertheless allow the site to comply with Thai censorship law and so be unblocked, thereby permitting Thai based surfers easy access to the rest of the site?

[Smiles]

Is it possible for the moderators to block access to the naughty pics from surfers in Thailand, but leave them available to folk in the rest of the world? That way there would be a two tier site, and while perhaps disappointing to visitors from Thailand, it would nevertheless allow the site to comply with Thai censorship law and so be unblocked, thereby permitting Thai based surfers easy access to the rest of the site?
Aunty, I believe that is the way it is now.
If you are not a registered member you cannot see the ~ as you call them ~ "naughty" bits just by surfing through the site.
The erotic photos which float by on the Portal or the opening page are invisible if you are not registered and logged in. Try viewing the Board unlogged-in . . . all you see are the various members' "travel" photos which appear at random ... the erotic stuff will not appear. As well, he Erotic Album is not available unil you are registered and logged in.

Cheers ...

[TrongpaiExpat]

If you are not a registered member you cannot see the ~ as you call them ~ "naughty" bits just by surfing through the site.


Then what on earth is making "them" block the site? Gaythailand got the block lifted, yes? Anyone try here?

[Aunty]

Is it possible for the moderators to block access to the naughty pics from surfers in Thailand, but leave them available to folk in the rest of the world? That way there would be a two tier site, and while perhaps disappointing to visitors from Thailand, it would nevertheless allow the site to comply with Thai censorship law and so be unblocked, thereby permitting Thai based surfers easy access to the rest of the site?
Aunty, I believe that is the way it is now.
If you are not a registered member you cannot see the ~ as you call them ~ "naughty" bits just by surfing through the site.
The erotic photos which float by on the Portal or the opening page are invisible if you are not registered and logged in. Try viewing the Board unlogged-in . . . all you see are the various members' "travel" photos which appear at random ... the erotic stuff will not appear. As well, he Erotic Album is not available unil you are registered and logged in.

Cheers ...

Ok thanks Smiles. I suppose the problem is though that if you register you can still access the full site from within Thailand. But since certain content on the site can indeed be blocked why not just block the naughty bits to all Thai severs/ ISP's? Maybe that would help to unblock the site in Thailand, or do you think there's a more political-pissed 'someones making a point' reason for the block?

why not just block the naughty bits to all Thai severs/ ISP's?

Perhaps the Thai censors find more than the photos offensive? For example,


Yes Miss Stanwyck, just suck the dick.

appears as a byline in every single Aunty post, so it would be hard for a censor to miss it. I don't know what standards the censors use (if there are any standards) or if they would find that statement offensive or even understand its context. But the point is, blocking the photos to Thai ISPs may not address all the censor's objections. What is innocuous dribble to us may be something that's highly offensive to them.

[Aunty]

Or not as the case may be. What you are stamping your feet about, again, is entirely speculative. This is not the case with the nude pictures.

Looks like yet again you are attending to matters which only exist inside your silly head and nowhere else. Learn to get it right would you.


Just to make my position clear, if the blocking of this board was also due to the written content of the posts here, that would rise to a level of unacceptable censorship that no Westerner can or should tolerate, and if that were the case the board should proceed as is in my view. But somehow I don't think the Thai are quite as sensitive or anally uptight as you are, especially about a bit of cocksucking.

the thought of Barbara Stanwyk down there is even too much for me !!

Like most Thai implementation of government policy it's all hit and miss..if you type in "proxy services" in your search engine it will be blocked..you must use oher wording.

[Aunty]

the thought of Barbara Stanwyk down there is even too much for me !!

Like most Thai implementation of government policy it's all hit and miss..if you type in "proxy services" in your search engine it will be blocked..you must use oher wording.

lol, ok for you honey I'll change it!

[Smiles]

" ... since certain content on the site can indeed be blocked why not just block the naughty bits to all Thai severs/ ISP's? Maybe that would help to unblock the site in Thailand, or do you think there's a more political-pissed 'someones making a point' reason for the block? ... "
I have no idea what happened back in the spring when many of these types of Board's were blocked. It sure seems suspicious that they were all done so at around the same time . . . almost as if "someone" pointed them out to the Thai authority, which may have got the ball rolling. My insertion of "someone" in that thought is not meant to be conspiratorial or paranoid (too much of that around anyway), but it seems to me there is a 'coincidence of time' there which can hardly be denied.

Having the erotic photos on this site does not help matters when in fact all any person who wishes to check this out (in this case the Thai internet censor board, or whatever they call themselves) has to do is register as a member.
The incarnations of Sawatdee Forum before this one had no porno images (it was in the guidelines), and had no censorship trouble . . . so I think it an unwise decision to have made them so easily available here. God knows Thai/Asian porno photographs are easy enough to find on the www elsewhere, why give the Thai authorities the bait, and then the reason, to block the place?

GayThailand Board went through the same blocking angst and seems to have successfuly gotten themselves out of the hole by means of the Owner(s) actively going after the Thai censor board with appeals and negotiations and compromise (and maybe money, I have no idea, but TiT!!).

This action was very laudable and proactive, and worked! But you should remember that the Owner of GayThailand seems to have some deep pockets which would obviously come into good use for this task: the cost of lawyers, appeal agents, investigators etc etc is probably reasonably high, and I know for a fact that ElephantSpike (the Owner of this Board) is not in that position . . . . even if he had he desire to go after an un-block.

However, it would not be expensive for ElephantSpike to try this:

(1) Get some advice from the GayThailand Owner on "how he did it". It's a start at least.

(2) before going into any appeal procedure, get rid of the erotic albums completely and discard the notion that the Board can "have everything". If the Board stuck to being just a plain & simple message board (and can be demonstrated as such) it might well win the right to be un-blocked. There is already existing on the Board (and has for a long time) a 'guideline" regarding Lese Majesty, and that in itself should show some ingrained respect for Thai sensibilities. Deep-sixing the porno albums may be enough to get the Board un-blocked.

But the Owner has to go after it, and he seems to be disinclined to do that.

This IMHO only ...

Cheers ...

[Aunty]

That's a good post Smiles and I agree with you wholeheartedly. I guess the $64,000 question is - where is the owner and what will he do? Personally I don't come here for the porn pics, you are right they are freely available all over the place, so why here? So I was wondering then if they were actually helping to raise funds (through the link and sponsorship) to keep the board going, and without them there may be no board??

If that is the case I still think the best way to raise money to cover Elephantspikes expenses in running the board is to have a biannual fundraiser, much like Public Television in the US does. And if he makes a few extra dollars from doing that, more power to him right?

Looks like yet again you are attending to matters which only exist inside your silly head and nowhere else.

...if the blocking of this board was also due to the written content of the posts here, that would rise to a level of unacceptable censorship that no Westerner can or should tolerate.... But somehow I don't think the Thai are quite as sensitive or anally uptight as you are, especially about a bit of cocksucking.

Aunty, dear, your responses can be so nasty! :ogre: While I may not share your predilection for vulgarity, that doesnтАЩt mean IтАЩm uptight or anal! No, honey, you just go ahead and exercise that Western right to unbridled crudeness, continue to berate anyone who disagrees with you as mentally ill, and donтАЩt give civility a second thought! You go, girl! :cheers:

[Aunty]

Aunty, dear, your responses can be so nasty! :ogre: While I may not share your predilection for vulgarity, that doesnтАЩt mean IтАЩm uptight or anal! No, honey, you just go ahead and exercise that Western right to unbridled crudeness, continue to berate anyone who disagrees with you as mentally ill, and donтАЩt give civility a second thought! You go, girl! :cheers:

Coming from an American, and a Californian to boot, that's really funny. You sad fuck.

Aunty! I am ashamed, language please! Paris wold never, and I mean never stoop that low. Didn't you at least rather like the little armoured dyke? I though it was cute. By the way, where is Edith hiding, hasn't she had enough of those war lords already?